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I wish I were half owner in a business like that but I am a Registered Nurse and have been working full time as a Registered Nurse for 25 years. I have nothing to hide and I am not on this forum to play games. I do have years of experience as a Psychiatric Nurse and what I read into your communication with me and others is that you have a problem with paranoia. Paranoia is a symptom of multiple Psychiatric disorders. It is my opinion that you need to seek a Psychiatrist and get some help. I am a professional and I do not play immature drama games so I will not be responding to anymore of your posts.

Dear Ms xladybugx, I will be locking this topic after I post. You need to re- read Patricias post. SHE WAS QUOTING AN EMAIL FROM JENNIFER, SHE IS NOT JENNIFER. I love a good scandal as much as the next guy but there is nothing here. We do not delete accounts however you may leave the forum if you wish.

Ladybug I sing VapeDudes praises as much as she does, in fact if I remember correctly I am one of those that turned her on to VapeDudes. ECF is --------------> that way if you feel the need to act like that, they will welcome you with open arms. Just my two cents. Based on your posts one could assume you own stock in MBV with that crazed rant about how VapeDudes ripped them off a while back.

I'd love to be able to help you find the right juice for your taste, but I'm afraid that no matter what you find out from others in your quest, no one can decide what you like but you. . Everybody has their favorite vendors and juices, but for every vaper that tries and likes what one vaper recommends, there's another vaper that absolutely can't stand it. Case in point: I like Dekang's RY4, but some here have told me it's so horrible that it'll choke a buzzard off a gut-wagon. Go figure. We all go through this...sooner or later, you'll find what works for you. As far as steeping goes, put your juice bottle in hot water (not boiling) and occasionally take the bottle out to shake it up. Do this 'til the water cools to room temperature, and voilà...you just saved yourself a week or more of steeping. All steeping does is allow the juice ingredients to fully mix together, and hot water accelerates the process. If you're worried about the water ruining the bottle's label, put the bottle in a small zip-lock baggie first.

You are lightly restricted while being a newbie but are bumped to a regular member after 3 posts (Used to be 5, forgot to update the staff) Don't forget to fill out our asylum application.

"Grapefull Dead", though it's a popular one at a NorCal shop. I tossed the tainted cartomizer, and decided to huff a plastic welches grape bottle instead. Might just be me lol!

I'm starting to get confused...did I miss an episode?

Welcome! We do have a few resident trouble makers (myself included) but we don't usually bite..... Hard anyway.

i have been informed by the management that the 5 post requirement has been lifted Nobody reads the rules anyways

I saw the link to the thread of you bashing VapeDudes saying they "stole" their flavors from MBV. I saw nothing in there that would lead me to believe Patricia is in any way affiliated with them. I do however converse with Jennifer from VapeDudes on a fairly regular basis. I remember when Patricia was brand new looking for where to order stuff. I recommended VapeDudes to her at that point when she tried it. It just seems like you are prone to drama and draw conclusions that, to me, seem to be fantasy. All Patricia did was paste an e-mail she got from VapeDudes. But then again, you are in "discussions with them" of how to improve their business practices or something like that smh.

I think you are misreading Patricias post. She was quoting Vape Dudes, she was not saying she is a co-owner.

Lol I was thinking the same thing! And I think UMA is in league with the leading device manufacturers! She definitely goes out of her way to make us spend money on stuff we want! It's like she knows!!!! Lol totally kidding. But I digress, if you have loyalty to a company good for you! But if another company is popular and you don't care for them.... Why not just state one time you don't care for their flavors and move on?

Sheepdog, the "airy" hits are all a matter of personal preference. I still like the kind that I had when I smoked a cigarette. If I remember correctly, I didn't like airy hits from different brands there, too. As with all vaping gear and juices, vaping is a very personal thing and one size does not fit all. We all like different things. In my experience, Kangor makes some of the very best clearomizers I've tried to date. They're very consistent and work well. Don't let my personal preference put you off. Plus, the Pro Tank is fairly new so we don't know yet if the company's listening. They have in the past, though. That's why we got T3s and then the MT3s came out fairly quickly afterwards. And we also just got the MT3s just recently so yes, I do believe they're listening to their user-base.

Thanks Tam, Love2 and Uma! Ya know that did enter my mind, my taste buds reacting or healing. Interesting that one might set juices aside to steep. I'm really enjoying the "Gadget" part of this and the new "Ritual" it has created. So beyond the nicotine and oral fixation this vape thang seems awesome!

My hair's too short for rubber bands so none from me... BUT! I do have a Maltese as shown in my avatar and she has lots of hair care stuff.

Welcome to VT, NorCal ChrisP! I'm from NorCal too, living off grid and have been enjoying vaping for roughly 3 years now. I love a good Grape, and to me, PSV has a super one called G-spot. There are a lot of flavor vendors out there to try, I've no means tried them all... I get in a rut with the ones that I am presently enjoying. Like Tams said, setting it aside for a week or two (shaking it every day) will sometimes help to merge the flavors into it's intended flavor. Also, I'd like to share that our tastebuds go through a lot of changes after giving up the tar from tobacco cigarettes, which means our preferences for flavors will from this moment on be playing the visa-versa game with us. What you love today, you'll hate tomorrow and then when you revisit months later you'll enjoy it again, and then not, ... always the revolving door of changing tastebuds. If it's perfumy tasting at all, it definitely needs to "steep"... The flavors have not melded together yet. If it's bland, it needs a punch of flavoring or a drop of menthol

I think they are kind of cool myself and will probably get one one day. I do also think that as battery technology gets better (and it is day by day) the trend will be towards more comfortable and convenient sizes and not boat anchors. Continuing with the direction the MVP is going could end up with battery cables and a car battery if they arent careful. I don't know how much battery I really need for a day of vaping yet but I rather doubt I will ever need anything over the amounts the MVP gives. It may end up a curiosity rather than a mainstay.

honestly, I don't use many premixed flavors, but I swear by vapor talks(Market Place) Summer melon, midnight and sweet dawn. These are the only premixed flavors I use. They only come in PG or VG, I don't think you can buy it mixed, but you can buy one PG and One VG and mix them yourself. They are not over powering flavors, but ones I can vape all day. Keep in mind all flavors are very subjective, we all have our own personal favorites that other don't like at all.

I had a banana bread that was fantastic when I first got it but now its so vile. I think the biggest part is your taste buds are coming back from vacation.

I was recently given a ECG (Electronic Cigarette Generation) brand e-cig from a friend at work because he didn't like it. I found out why he didn't like it...it sucks...lol. I stopped by a local Vapor shop in my city called The Vapor Bar. I bought some e-juice (one of their in house blends) called, Beach Bum. I really like how it tasted when I sampled it in their shop. So, I charged the ECG and took it to work, it worked about 2 hours before the battery died and I bummed 3 analogs and had about 5 Camel Snuses while I waited for it to charge. After work I was headed to St Louis ( from Dallas Texas) and I will be in Missouri till the 15th on vacation. There was NO WAY I was using the ECG piece of crap for a week and a half. I bit the bullet and bought one of The Vapor Bar's one battery set ups for $68 with a manual battery, atomizer, charger and one 30 ml free flavor (I chose cotton candy...that was a mistake). I have been vaping with it since 5:00pm and haven't had any desire for a Snus or analog. Hope I can stick with it. I'm doing it in the car now and wife and kids don't mind it.

I have been using 1.8% from V2, Lava and DFWVapor. I learned how to hit it but when I try to get others to go digital when they take a toot (ShoutOut to GrimmGreen) they all choke. I am still a little lost with it all. I know there is PG (throat hit) VG (vapor) then nic and flavor. I tried some 2.4% before and that hit to hard for me. When I order my juice there was no option for % of VG/PG so I assume it's 50/50. My mom smokes newport lights and is wanting to switch to digital, what should I get to help her make the switch? What are some good sites for juice, batteries and tnks/clearmizers? Thanks

Has that ever happened to you, where you are busy all day and are unable to charge your batteries? Usually I'll at least pick up a 7/11 disposable as a back-up if my battery starts running low, but tonight I didn't have the chance. I was in the company of a bunch of analog smokers, and I lapsed for the first time in months (shame on me). I don't think I ever realized how gross those things were until I started lighting up. I feel so dirty knowing I let that stuff in my lungs. How do you guys deal with the nicotine cravings when you're in situations like that?

I havent quite found the fun yet Tam. Im still worrying about the nic you know? Will I be able to do this, will it work, and what will people say if they see me with some contraption. The Halo G6 looks just like a cig except mine is all black with a button on the side. Oh and a blue led on the end. The mini tank looks like a mini T2 with top coils. It is considered disposable as you cannot replace anything on it. use for a while, clean, then toss. It's Ok I guess. My main issue now is finding juice I can like or tolerate. I ordered an innokin iTaste VV/VW 800mah system with 5 Clear 16's. Those will be better than what I have now. That also means I can upgrade to all the nifty stuff you guys talk me into! I might like to try the T2 or T3. I was obsessive about my pipes and cigars and so I will probably be so about the e-vaping also. I will call it a hobby I guess! I do appreciate all of the help you give me and all the support that a newly stopped smoker needs. I caught a whiff of a cigar in the parking lot at my grocery store and it was nasty to me. That is good I think. I do breath better already.

I ordered a 15ml bottle of the peanut butter cup! I am still waiting on it.... But I have other DIY flavors coming from there as well!

Well I can say one thing.... The emails are identical. But it still doesn't prove that Patricia is or isn't Jennifer. And if she is? Well Jenny I hear lots of great things about your products and will be trying them in the near future. If she isn't? Sorry you have had such a hassle over one thread and I hope you continue to like the products you buy. Don't let one person push you away from a vendor. And ftr.... I recommend Brian at the veteran vapor all the time on here and in real life. So... I could be a partial owner... Or just a fan of his service. Either way who cares? (I'm not a partial owner but it would be nice! Lol)

Thanks and hello Christopher! I like the forum layout, good work! ✌✌

My two all day vapes I use over 90% of the time are VapeDudes "Spearmint" and "Candy Cane". Never had any issue with my tanks.

Just put in a new order with Brian at Veteran Vapor. I am getting a black Viva Nova STV 3.5ml tank, 10 replacement wicks. He has a bundle deal on them now. Only $2.00 each if you order 10 or more. I also ordered 2 eGo C Twist 1000mha batteries, one black and one chrome.

well i recently talked to a friend and he started 3 years ago when it was all coming around big time and like he said. start up sucks with anything, but i have saved over 33,000 dollars at the rate i was smoking and have only spent a little over 9,000 in equipment and juice since i quit. so you do save money its about finding what you like and moving ahead from there and only changing one thing at a time. being new we are prone to want to try everything where as some of the veterans have settled into their kits and what they want out of a hit and never look back. so it will save you money... just not at first! lol

Yep. I will add one to my list. I thought I was going to save money by quitting analogs, but guess I am just putting it in a new hobby!

One thing I've learned is to ALWAYS turn down the voltage on my devices before letting others have a go at it. They normally hit it like they would an analogue, and that's what chokes them the most. 4v should do the trick for most smokers. PG is what gives throat hit, while VG produces the vapor. Often smokers will hit PG heavy fluid and feel like they're not getting enough "smoke", so they'll hit it harder trying to get the right amount of it... and choke themselves out in the process. So I highly recommend going with a higher VG ratio. I don't know why everyone claims most juices are 50/50 when the ratio isn't labeled on them, but most I have found to be more like a 70/30 or 80/20 ratio of PG to VG. Personally I won't buy from any vendor that doesn't list their ratios, but this is partially due to me being PG sensitive. Which is another thing to watch for when letting someone hit your PV... and another reason why you should give them a higher VG ratio on the juice. Flavor has a lot of impact on TH as well. What is commonly referred to as "crack juice" because they crack plastic tanks (sours, cinnamon, citrus, etc.) usually have the greatest TH as well. I would suggest giving Mt. Baker Vapor's 555 50/50 ratio juice w/ 1 extra flavor shot a chance with your smoker friends. It's a sweet and nutty tobacco flavor that vapes very smoothly on just about any voltage, and I have yet to see someone that didn't like it when giving my device a toot.

i cant attest for the bombness of this product as mine is still in transit. but i am willing to try anything for the right price and give it fair go regardless of what everyone else says. so you might as well try a few before you rule them out sheep

i will tell you sheep i have just gotten the new t2's and they are the bomb. by tight and by airy they mean how long you have to pull on the atomizer to get a nice puffy vape. thats all kind of a personal opinion and the t2's are not unlike the regular sets that come with a starter kit as far as the pull goes but... they provide so much more flavor its ridiculous. i would recommend you try those before you rule out kanger because of the airy hits.

If you want to try to steep it faster, place bottles of juice into a ziplock bag and seal tightly. Get as much air out of it as possible so it doesn't float. Place into a bowl of hot water and let the water cool naturally. Take out, shake and repeat. From what I've heard it's the hot water that helps the steeping along. I've tried this for some of my juices when I couldn't wait and it works pretty well... not quite as well as when you let time do its thing but it does help.

There are no rules preventing Brian from posting. Im sure hes uber busy with his store and life.

dang it brian! lol you had to come out and say that the EVOD makes the KPT better... i think i might have ordered on of those from aquavapor.... i have to double check now!

Stopped by a local "smoke shop" today because a buddy of mine just bought an eGo kit from there and said they had a bunch of different ecigs there. So i swing by and by a bunch he apparently meant blu and njoy......however, they did have a lot of different basic eGo supplies and i was quite surprised. I walked out with: 1 650mah black eGo batt-$10 (3 month warranty) 1 eGo charger-$7 1 ce4-$4 1 10ml dekang Vanilla 18mg-$6 All in all not bad for brick and mortar store pricing. And it's nice to know if i'm ever in a pinch i can drive right off post and have some stuff available to me.

Congrats on dropping the stinkies, keep it up and try different flavors. Getting your "flavors" you like seems to be of the hardest things for anyone thats starting to vape.

The grape might just need to steep a little while. Try storing it in a dark place, shake once a day and give it a try again in a week or two to see if the flavor gets better for you. Some juices just need a bit of time.... But then again it might also be that fruit flavors aren't for you.

Tam, if your using it on an ego batt, try tightening the ring that came with the tank, if you screw it up against the tank, it will tighten up the draw quite a bit. If on a larger batt/APV/mod, try a oring, or small rubber band, at the bottom of the tank, you can leave one, or two open this way also. If you want it even tighter, i built a lanyard ring out of ss steel wire, running thru the air hole slots, so lots of tricks. Best I have found is slow deep draws..

I love my MVP as well. Highly recommended device!

You betcha, until the vodka discolors, I consider it reusable. I have no idea if this is correct or not, but so far no bad germs. I repurpose a Mrs. Dash seasoning shaker for cleaning the small parts like drip tips. Because of the shaker holes, I can pour out the vodka into a cup without loosing my goodies down the drain. The lid will twist off, to get the goodies in and out of it.

Well, I keep telling you that I'm very willing to buy the rest of your Boba's stash off you!!! To me it tastes like a premium pipe tobacco...

If your juice tastes like chemicals, don't vape it!!!! Chances are it wasn't made fresh.... Steeping shouldn't require shaking. Just let it sit, and mellow out. As a general rule, the more complex the flavor (ie: Boba's Bounty), the longer you should let it steep. The Vapor Room is a good place to start for "fresh-made" juice. They make their juice fresh for your order, it doesn't taste like chemicals, and though it is preferable to let it steep for a few days, you can use it right away with no real discernible incongruity. For pre-steeped juices, I gotta give a plug for Christopher and recommend VaporTalk juice. Though the only one I've had of his was Dulcis. I didn't care for it at first, but it really grew on me after a couple tanks!!!

Thanks for the advice! I'm planning to be out and about all day today (it is my birthday after all), so I'm going to buy myself an extra battery before I hit the town!

I don't let myself get into situations like that.

No, the Ego batteries have an inner thread compatible with the carts

While I can and will accept any ones opinion, I honestly dont care who started what, or when or even how. I DIY and quite frankly try to mimic what I taste, there are only so many flavors out there, does that make me a thief? I think not, for me its flattery at its finest. I support many juice vendors and will continue to do so. I am a single mother, who owns and operates two businesses, I bust my tail to survive and dont have the time to worry about what others are doing, either personally or business wise.

3v through 5v, depending on delivery device. 5.5 watts for CE2 "wicking" tank cartos...8 watts for everything else.