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Welcome to the forum Christina. I am happy that you have an interest in ecigs. But I am not too clear why someone that has never smoked would want to take up smoking or the ecig. If you have no addiction to nicotine, then I suggest that you do not invest in ecigs. If you do choose to continue with this quest I am highly suggesting that you use non nicotine liquids. I am not familiar with the model prosmoke. The 510 is a good model. Good luck and please make your decision very carefully before choosing to start with the ecig.

I absolutely love the idea Angela has with the point system on reputation +1,-1 under our picture. Not all members are alike, meaning that some people would go out of there way to help. Like what she said "When posting helpful information on the forums members can click the small + or - button next to your post. If your information is helpful you'll be given a reputation point. Of course on the flip side if your information isn't so helpful you get a negative point " To realy appreciate this become a member of another site and see what I mean. I realy don't know much about this site but I realy like so far what I am reading. To much favoritism at other sites. If they don't like what you said it will get deleted but from older members everything go's. I know you have to earn your respect as time go's on but to also be treated equal is very important to. On other sites you don't feel like you are in the USA, it feels more like your in a Communist country. Where what you write won't show up on how you wrote it. GOD BLESS

Juice flavor can be different for everyone. What one person likes someone else may absolutely hate. I have not tried the butterscotch, so I don't have an opinion on the flavor. I see that you have been vaping for a few days now. Your flavor preferences will change the longer you vape. When I first started I got a bottle of juice that tasted like stale beer. I shelved it and after a few weeks, I gave it a try again. The flavor had completely changed. I would suggest waiting a few weeks and giving it a go then. Just a suggestion.

The cartomizer does work better than using the cartridges that come with a standard atomizer. The best way to use a standard atomizer is to direct drip.

Back to your question. Take the cap off the cartomizer and look in the center. There will be a wire and a white tube/straw. That actually is a vent. It liquid gets inside the tube it will run out the bottom. You want to add your drops along the side of the cartomizer. The drops should hit the white filler not the tube. I hope that helps.

You might want to watch this video. How to fill a 510 cartomizer

Hey CASE, I'll send you a bottle of Bobas for your dad. PM me the address of where you will be and I'll send it out today.

Well it's coming to the end of another year. A time when we try to get together with relatives and loved ones. .
It's hard to believe that I've been on this forum for over a year now. I've made a lot of new friends, met a lot of new and interesting people.
Most of them great...and a few that were not so great, but those that were not have come and gone.
We have a very close kind of family feeling in the forum that isn't found in any of the others I've checked out. That's one of the reasons for me staying and I'm sure why a lot of others stay also. We don't bicker or fight like so many of the others do. We respect each other and each others opinions. We help out newbies and answer every question even if it's been asked a dozen times before. There's no name calling like I've noticed other places and we seem to genuinely like each other, even if we disagree.
Chris and the staff go out of their way to make this forum something we can enjoy and their efforts are greatly appreciated.
ECF may have more members, but they certainly don't have the caring and devotion that the staff and members of this forum displays.
I guess what I'm really trying to say in all this is Thank You. Thank you to Chris and each and every one of you for making this past year a fun and pleasant time.
And I hope this holiday finds you well and in great spirits.


So to each and every one of you a very Merry Christmas....Happy Holidays....and a Happy New Year.


Thank you so much. Larry

Welcome Emily. The Joye Ego is a good place to start. Most kits will come with 2 standard 510 atomizers. You can order a package of blank 510 cartomizers separately. They usually come in a package of 5 for about $7 to $8. Depends on where you get them. You will need to fill them with liquid. There are videos showing how to fill them. It is quite simple. The drip tip replaces the cartridge/cap that fits on the atomizer. It will have a large hole that allows you to drip directly into the atomizer. Some suggest using them with the cartomizers. I use the drip tips on the standard atomizer.

As for the strength of the liquid...How many packs do you smoke a day? That really would be helpful. I smoked lights and about a pack a day. I started with 16 to 18 mg nic strength.

I took a look at that site and the products they have. Something is fishy, I wouldn't buy from there. Stolen image from another supplier and they actually referred to the Ego as an inhalator in the description.

Try not to get hung up on finding the cheapest price. You might just get a knock off or some really bad advice. Try looking right here at the VT store or the other supporting suppliers. They will carry everything you are looking for and they will answer any questions you might have if you chose to contact them.

Good luck. I hope this helped.

Here is a drip tip : http://www.vaportalk.../Drip-Tips.html it goes on top the atty where your carts are. It has a hole in the top where you can drip juice onto the atty.
It sounds like you have ordered everything you need to get started. Of course there is always more to buy along the way.

Welcome to the forum.

I applaud you for thinking of your child and the safety involved. Keeping eliquid away from small ones is very important. I want to add that you will also need to keep your cartridges away from you child. Little ones will stick anything in their mouths.

I am going to suggest going with the Ego. I am also going to suggest going with the liquid. With this combination you will have many more options for flavor, atomizer and cartomizers. I don't see any extra work involved in keeping liquid away from a child, than it will be to keep carts or a cartomizer out of reach of children. Choose whatever option will be easiest for you.

I did a search a few days ago for another member in regards to pre-filled cartridges for the Ego or 510 fitting. My search didn't turn up much except for tobacco and menthol pre-filled cartridges. They were at Awesome Vapor. I am sure you want more flavor options than just tobacco and menthol.

Here is another option if you don't want to go with the liquid.

1. The KR808D is a two piece model. The battery is small like your GS. There are a couple vendors out there that sell pre-filled cartomizers with different flavors.

2. Skip the cartridges and go with cartomizers. Cartomizers are a atomizer and cartridge in one unit. They work much better than cartridges. Cartridges don't wick liquid to the atomizer very well and that might be the problem you are experiencing with your GS. You can get a Cartomizer in the KR808D or in the 510 for the Ego. I have not had any luck finding pre-filled 510 cartomizers for the Ego that offer many flavor combinations. You can use the KR808D cartomizers on the Ego. You will need to get the 510 to 808/901 adapter.

I will give you some links for the KR808D cartomizers. If I find any for the 510 cartomizers I will post back later.

Vapor King - KR808D

Battery adapter for the 510 to KR808 This is an example of the adapter that you will need for the KR808 to fit on the Ego battery. Other suppliers sell this adapter too.

Do not confuse The Vapor King Model, from this site Vapor4Life, for the Vapor King Website I listed above. One is a supplier (above) and one has named their model the Vapor King. I am pretty sure that the Vapor King Model is a KR808D. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Good luck.

Brian is right flavor is really subjective. You and your girlfriend have been vaping for a little over a month now, is that correct? I know you are hooked on finding that perfect menthol flavor, but you should really give whirl at some other flavors if you have not done so.

The only menthol I have tried was a sample from Awesome Vapor. I am not a menthol person. I have to say, it was strong, it was so strong that it opened up my airway. I was quite pleased at the flavor, but menthol is not for me. I finally passed it on to a menthol person. They really seemed to like it.

When I first started, there were flavors that I bought that were just horrible. I stuck them in the corner for emergencies or to pass on to someone else. But after revisiting those flavors a few months later, I found that the flavor really wasn't that bad and I have actually reordered some of them. Maybe it was steeping but I doubt it. Most the of the liquid available when I started was Dekang, I am sure it had ample time to steep between here and China. I really think that my sense of smell and taste took longer to change. I also find that certain flavors taste better at different times of the day. Your flavor choices and habits may change the longer you vape.

It doesn't hurt to contact Jeffrey. Good luck.

Ron Paul made some really valid points. I have not traveled by air in a very long while. I don't mind having to go through the detectors, remove my shoes or be double checked by a wand. I do feel the government is really over stepping with the x-ray and pat down securities measures. The pilots have guns, the doors are locked and air marshals are on most flights now. They should be stepping up on the ground security. That is one thing I think they have neglected. They should be more thorough with whom is on the ground loading the planes and what exactly is going in the cargo hold. That should have happened years ago when the plane exploded over Lockerbie in Scotland.

My dog is quite good. I never had any problems with chewing or destroying anything, even as a puppy. She still has stuffed toys from puppy hood that look used but not beaten. Now my brother's dog is another story, he chewed a hole in my carpet. My dog is pretty good in the tub. But getting her in the tub is a different story. I have to drag her out from under the table and then she slinks with her head hung really low. Makes me feel really guilty.

Now I am not exempt from pet destruction. I have a 2 year old cat that will destroy anything that will shred. She destroys papers, books, toilet paper, paper towels and plastic grocery bags. She will even chew holes in the dog food bag. God forbid if I leave the garbage container out. The only saving grace is that she has not taken to destruction of my furniture yet. She really likes the big scratching post for that one. I am holding my breath on the no furniture thing, I am just waiting for the day I really make her mad and she takes it out on the couch in retribution. That will be a sad day.

Edit - I should also add that this crazy cat climbs up on a two story condo building and cries at the top of her lungs. I can't explain the number of times I had to explain to neighbors that she is not trapped and only does it to annoy me.

The atomizers you are getting is one standard Joye atomizer and one LR atomizer. The standard atomizer when dripping, 2-3 drops, lasts about 6-7 draws. You will notice vapor drop off when it starts to run dry, this will indicate to add a few more drops. The LR will simulate vaping at a higher voltage. I do not have or used any LR atomizers. But from what I understand they will require more liquid than the standard atomizer. The LR's tend to run hotter.

The cones are not only for aesthetics but they also will make the draw a bit tighter. It will reduce the air flow. You can use the Ego with or without the cone.

A cartomizer will not last a whole day on one fill. At least I haven't been able to get it to last that long. It will depend on how much you vape. If you chain vape you will fill it a few times during the day. I never really kept track how much I fill a cartomizer. I switch between cartomizers and direct dripping all day. The carts that will come with your atomizers will not last as long as the cartomizers. You will find yourself topping off more using the standard carts. Carrying 2 cartomizers during the day is not a bad idea. It will let you change up flavors too.

You can never have enough juice. Order away! Good luck!

Hi, welcome to the Vapor Talk Forum! Nice to have you!

If you are looking at an all-day battery, most of us will recommend an eGo preferably manufactured by Joye. Depending upon how much you will vape, the eGo battery will last anywhere from 6-12 hours between charges. The eGo uses 510 atomizers. I suggest ordering a kit where you will receive two batteries, two atomizers, and the chargers, either a USB or wall charger. You will want to purchase at least a 10ml bottle of e-liquid to start to refill the pre-filled cartridges that come with the unit. Or you direct dip (e-liquid is applied directly into the atomizer) or purchase cartomizers which have an atomizer (heating coil) and filler in one. There are vendors who claim that a pre-filled cartridge is equivalent to so many analogs (cigarettes). This really is not true. It depends on how much you will be vaping. I hope this helps a bit. There are How Do I videos on this forum, and many e-cigarette videos online. Don't hesitate to ask questions here. We are only willing to help you along the way!

I am surprised that your health insurance is applying this policy. I wonder how this will fit into the new government healthcare bill. Part of that bill states that you can not be turned down for insurance if you have pre-existing conditions. Wouldn't smoking or nicotine dependency be a pre-existing condition?

As for your question about how long nicotine stays in your system, I truly do not know the answer. Somewhere on this forum a member posted that nicotine has a half life and will leave your system in 1 to 2 hours after your last cigarette. However, I do not think this applies to continine because it is a by product of nicotine left over in the body. See this link My link I found it with a quick google search. Maybe this will shed some light on your question. You may want to do a google search for a detox solution. I found a couple sites, but I will not post them here on the forum.

Good luck and I hope it all works out in your favor.

I am surprised that your health insurance is applying this policy. I wonder how this will fit into the new government healthcare bill. Part of that bill states that you can not be turned down for insurance if you have pre-existing conditions. Wouldn't smoking or nicotine dependency be a pre-existing condition?

As for your question about how long nicotine stays in your system, I truly do not know the answer. Somewhere on this forum a member posted that nicotine has a half life and will leave your system in 1 to 2 hours after your last cigarette. However, I do not think this applies to continine because it is a by product of nicotine left over in the body. See this link My link I found it with a quick google search. Maybe this will shed some light on your question. You may want to do a google search for a detox solution. I found a couple sites, but I will not post them here on the forum.

Good luck and I hope it all works out in your favor.

Great review! Maybe he shoulda made it with the LED aiming directly into your eyes so you know it's on. That's too funny...

Hi, I became really discouraged when I first started to direct dip. It's all that everyone was recommending here. I felt like I was following the instructions but, time after time I ended up with juice in the mouth and felt like I was drinking my e-liquid. I even gave up on it for a couple of weeks and went back to the filler. I kept at it tho, and lo-and-behold, now I vape it, and don't drink it! I put anywhere from 2 to 4 drops in the atty. I tip it a bit and don't really know where the juice lands inside the atty. I keep my 510 or eGo fairly horizontal when I vape. As already said, the drip tip (I use the shorty, wide-mouth Delrin) kind of keeps the juice from running all over the place. I don't think I've ever had 5-7 inhales on a 2-4 drop drip, but I try not to overfill regardless. Even with a carto, if you're a drop over, the juice can run through the drip tip and onto your tongue. I guess what I want to say is don't give up on direct dipping. While cartos are convenient and becoming ever popular, there is nothing like the flavor and vapor that comes from the direct dipping method. Gluck!

Hi, while it is interesting to read a concern about mold spores in cartomizer filling, there are mold spores, viruses and bacteria free-floating in the air around us. As an ex-smoker, I always have to weigh the fact that the chemicals and amounts of tar I was ingesting into my throat and lungs was destroying my health. All the 'testing' on analogs has not made people stop using them. Is it prudent to err on the side of caution? Yes, of course. Most everything we do in life has a risk factor. But am I going to become an alarmist over the fact that I use cartomizers on a regular basis, absolutely not!

Hi, welcome to the Vapor Talk Forum!

Many of us, including myself, wanted an e-cigarette to look and be exactly like an analog. You can start out with a Joye510 which meets your current criteria. The only thing is the battery life of a 510 is about two hours, maybe it will be a little longer for you.

If you look through the forum here, you will see many posts on purchasing the Joye eGo. In my mind, it's like a chubby 510 however, the battery life is considerably longer, about 6-12 hours between charges. 510 atomizers which you use on the stick mod are used with the eGo.

I see that you just posted you want an automatic. There are pros and cons to the automatic, the biggest of which it is easy to short out an auto battery if e-liquid gets inside the battery. I don't have personal experience with automatic batteries but to add to this, even though e-cigarettes are marketed as a substitute for smoking analogs, vaping is an alternative and rather a unique experience.

Good luck, don't hesitate to ask questions! We're here to help!

PS: I don't think you can go by the experience of purchasing a pv from a gas station or kiosk in a mall. There are a lot of knock-offs in the marketplace. You'll do better purchasing a Joye from a reputable online vendor.

Hi onqun, I think what you may be tasting is the primer that is in the atomizer in a new kit. Unscrew the atty from the battery and blow through the open end into a kleenex or paper towel. Then add a drop or two of e-liquid into the atomizer. Place the cartridge back on the atty and then inhale. Sometimes it takes upward of a half-hour of vaping to get rid of the primer taste. Don't forget to keep adding e-liquid but, not too much. Hope this helps. Let us know!

The only side effect I've had from vaping is feeling incredibly awesome physically, mentally and emotionally!

Hi, I think all kinds of analyses can be made regarding what, why, how and when we vape. I believe someone posted here on the forum that when we vape we're taking in less nic than when we smoked analogs. Idk the science behind that. However, in the beginning, vaping was new and exciting, for me. I couldn't put my pv down. I still have my eGo in my hand a lot of the time. It goes where I go. Am I vaping less after five months? Idk, I haven't monitored myself. I think the best argument to be made is the one elDuderino expressed. What an analog smoker is ingesting is a crime against humanity. And the known carcinogens that are in them to keep people smoking all over the world? Shame, shame, shame on the tobacco companies!!!

Everyone has their personal goals. Some want to wean, some vape all day and night on 0mg, some vape very high levels of nicotine. I put in a vote for being grateful that I have this technology available to me. Vaping will certainly help no matter what decision I make in the future! Right now tho, 'Preacher Lily' loves to vape! So many choices in what pv's to buy, so many e-liquid flavors, so very much fun!