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I didnt actually get anything new but a buddy of mine asked me to pick out a kit for him and i got: 2x 1300 mAh Vision Spinners 2x Kanger EVOD tanks with replacement heads 1 Black carrying case 1 eGo Charger 1 eGo lanyard. i got it all for under $100. I think thats a great started kit!

I have learned from experience to go with Brian at the Veteran Vapor because is only sells the real deal and if you are unhappy for any reason he will work with you to correct it. I had bought a bunch of CE4s and CE5s from a "good deal site". They sent me all duds. Now that would never happen with Brian, but if it did he would send you 10 working ones. Can you tell, Brian is my hero.

Update.. Dad went from 2 packs a day down to a pack every two days. After smoking for 60 years I think that's pretty good.

He moved out of their house and filed for a restraining order the following day.

I rest my case. Actually some of it is pretty good and some not so good. A person just needs to try them all and decide what floats your boat. I would just not put all my eggs in one basket and run the risk of having nothing to vape until the mailperson delivers the next shipment.

im the same as joe. I can kill an 800mAh batt in about 3 hours and i go through 3-4ml of juice everyday.... unless im dripping... them im more in the neighborhood of say... 5-7ml lol!

Buncha lightweights lol I get at most 5 hrs. from a 650 twist and ~10 hrs. from my 1300 mah spinners. I go through 4-5 mls. of juice a day,sometimes more.

Mods feel free to move this to the review section if needed, but I thought I would post it here since its really not an e-cig review or a liquid review as much as a comparison, but if you think it belongs there please move it. First off I am a huge fan of Kanger products, and I like both of these a lot. As with anything in life, there are pros and cons of each. I am going to compare these on the basis of the following criteria: 1. Looks 2. Taste-Vapor production 3. Ease of use 4. Maintenance 5. Cost of ownership 1. Looks: I like the way both of these clearomizers look but easily prefer the look of the T3S over the T2. I give the advantage here to the T3S. It is clearly marked a KangerTech product with the logo and name on the unit where the T2s do not have this. I also like that it has a gauge for liquid level both upside down and right side up since you fill from the bottom on these. They both come in color, but I find the looks of the T3S more appealing. Advantage T3S. It has a very clean uniform fit and finish. The ONLY complaint I have about the looks is the mouthpiece is clear which looks cool when unused but after a few draws you can see the condensation in it. Its there in the T2 as well, but with a black mouthpiece you cannot see it. I have had to get used to this. 2. Taste and Vapor production: Here is another area I am conflicted. With the T3S the flavors taste the same from top to bottom for me so far after vaping at least a tank of my go-to flavors with them. I might have to give the T2 a slight taste advantage for the first 1/4 of the tank, but after that it drops off for me unless I swirl the wicks which I hate to do. I do not notice a huge difference in vapor production but it seems the T3S produces slightly more. As my wife pointed out, there is definitely more of a "throat hit" from the T2 but at this point I am happy to tame that down just a bit. There is not a huge difference in this category either, but would give a slight advantage to the T3S since I think it produces slightly more vapor and the fact that my flavors taste the same from full to empty with all my flavors. 3. Ease of use: The T2 wins this one hands down. It is virtually impossible to get liquid in the air holes and-or flood a T2 from my experience. They fill from the top, very easy to do with little mess.You can fill while still attached to the battery. With the T3S you have to turn it upside down, unscrew the bottom, either be very very careful or plug the hole with a Q-Tip, put the bottom back on, and then re-attach it to the battery. Both are very easy to change the coils, although the T3S has an advantage here as you can easily change coils with a full tank as I have already done a few times (I will get to this later). One thing to mention here is due to the design of the T3S it doesn't work well for me with a lanyard on stock Ego batteries. It is fine on my Spinners, they have plenty of space and threads, but on the smaller batteries it screws down too far and places the lanyard ring in a bind and sometimes creates a distance that it doesn't make contact and you have to mess with it to get it to fire. I have gone back to using my Spinners anytime I plan to use a lanyard when using my T3S. I cannot efficiently use my lanyard and my EgoT 1000mah or my Ego Mini 400mah because the ring blocks the coil from making contact with the battery. 4.Maintenance: This is also a category where I am torn. It may be too early in my use of the T3S to accurately talk about this, but of the 10 I ordered with 1.8ohm coils standard I have replaced all 10 with 2.2 ohm coils that I ordered. The coils that came standard started flooding one by one but after exchanging them the leaking is minimal, but still there. I never had anything like this happen with the T2s. So far, there is definitely more maintenance with the T3S than the T2 for me anyway. Every coil I have used leaks at least a little and when refilling there is a procedure of blowing out, swabbing down the air hole and mouthpiece. It reminds me of the Ce4s in this regard. Let me say this, its not terrible. There is not liquid running out the bottom of these, but to say they don't leak a little would be being dishonest in my reviews. The second part is how easy it is to change the coils. With the T2 I always took out the coil, soaked the tank and cap in alcohol for a day or two, then let it air dry and go back into the rotation. With the T3S you just turn it upside down and unscrew the bottom, unscrew the old coil, screw in a new one, swab out the air hole, and screw it back on. I think it is more efficient as long as the coils last similar time-frames. 5. Cost of use: This is where there is not a lot of difference on the surface but as time goes on I can see either one having the advantage here. Up front costs are similar, in the neighborhood of $5 with one coil. The coils for the T2 are $2 and for the T3S are $1.39 so there is a difference there but not huge given how long they should last. I believe the T3S in the long run will be more efficient. I cannot count how many half tanks of liquid I have poured out of my T2s when a coil blows. It seems to ruin the whole tank and even if not, most comes out when you try to pull soaked wicks out and replace with new ones. That's why I gave up on even trying this with the T2s. With the T3S if I blow a coil I can replace it and continue to use the liquid in the tank. You can also buy replacement bases with the T3S ($2.50) but cannot buy replacement lids for the T2 (That I am aware of) and I have had a couple of them get the threads messed up and this renders them "spare parts". Bottom line is I like both these units for different reasons. I am planning to continue using the T3S as my daily driver for now but will not ever be bummed out at all I have with me is a T2. They both are great delivery devices. I just love finally being able to vape a whole tank of liquid with no drop-off in flavor or taste without having to top them off all the time. For a total noob, I would probably recommend the T2 over the T3S due to the ease of filling and lack of maintenance. I would give a slight advantage overall to the T3S head to head with the T2 as long as you dont mind a little maintenance and an occasional leak. I know there are ways to fix them, add wicks, rebuild, etc... but that's not me. I want to buy something and it work and for me it does, but there are definitely minor leaking issues similar to but not as bad as my experience with CE4s. This is my first non-liquid review so please, be gentle lol.

I went to visit my dad today and he's been vaping a bit for two weeks or so. He's 72 and been a smoker for around 60 years so he's been weaning himself off of analogs. He bought a regular ego kit last year (batts, Atty, cartridge and cone). It lasted about 2 months and it wasn't working for him. He recently went to the Dr and got a clean bill of health except for the start of emphysema and high BP. So now he's all about it. This time he got an ego with CE5's kit and 100 mils of 0 nic juice. He's excited and can't wait to quit analogs. I'm so proud of him. He said he wants to be around another 20 years so he's go to do something to quit.

I just ordered the smoktek pipe mod from Sweet-Vapes.com, 2 KidneyPuncher dripping attys and juice from MtBakerVapor.com on Friday and got them in the mail on Monday. WOOHOO!!! I just had to share that these three vendors have FAST shipping. BTW the Smoktek pipe was only $36 shipped! Cheapest price out there by around $20.

Right now I have 5 full clearos in my case and I have not had one leak since I stopped using CE4s. They stay full and are in my case, in my pocket, on my desk. Never should a clearo leak when filled just because it is laying sideways. I have a T2 and a T3S of my tobacco flavor in my case all week that never get touched until the weekend when I am drinking on the lake. In the picture I posted of my case every clearo is full. What I meant by this is the T2s seem to have a flavor drop off after about a half a tank so I topped them off every night at home and put them back in my case to use. With the T3S the taste is the same from the first draw till I have nothing but droplets in the bottom. Even though the T3S are harder to fill, the fact that I only have to do it every third day as opposed to every night more than make up the difference.

Todd did a review on one. They should be out soon.

Sounds like my first couple weeks lol, and my wifes first month or so. It is different, you are not burning a combustible plant matter wrapped in paper and laced with chemicals. It is fairly pure. I will say I also started with 50-50 because I didnt know the difference, both my wife and I found our satisfaction at a 24mg level nic and a 70%pg-30%vg blend. I would go 80-20 if VapeDudes offered it. That's what I get from Sweet-Vapes and love that mixture.

A lot of what you describe was my first week after stopping tobacco. I tried to go cold turkey and the cramps, gas, bloating, quesiness, and sick feelings were my detoxing I think. Also the nervousness and anxious almost paranoia. (I used to smoke cigars and inhaled so I was very high nic) Instaed of breathing better for that week it got worse and I went to my Dr. I told him what I was doing and he said to get a 7-11 e-cig to get the nic to ease my withdrawls. He offered patches but I didnt want those. After going thru maybe 10-15 njoy's I found this place. I have been helped tremendously and now am stable-ish! Go see your Dr. Read the posts and try some things. We will all help and so will I. Just dont go back to tobacco as it will kill you and your family. (and you could go thru this all over again) I havent been better very long but many here have years!

I had found an absolutely delicious juice. Strawnanna Smoothie from Nicquid. 70/30 12mg. I was vaping it up like a kid goes thru kool aid. Then I saw a post by someone mentioning pre-steeped juice. It turns out the place does what they call "ultrasonically steeping" before shipping new juice. So I went to look. ( greenmanejuice.com) I looked around and chose the two that were mentioned by the poster. I dont remember who that poster was but thank you! So I ordered the two mentioned. Just to try and see if this steeping made any difference. And that is now why I post this. I got two juices in the mail, Shamrock Shiver, and Druid's breath. 70/30 12mg. I tried the Shamrock and it is yummy right out of the mail. A lot like the McD shamrock shake with extra mint. Then I tried the Druids breath. Now the old stand by, the Strawnanna, tastes bland. The Druid's breath has taken over as my go-to juice. That is *not* what I wanted to happen! So far I have only found 3 juices I can stand and these three are it. Now one of them is "meh" to me. Has this ever happened to you and how can I punch up the bland one?

Welcome to Vapor Talk, sounds like your on the right track

I would just politely pull over, open the door, put her on the curb, and drive away. I thought my wife was bad when we have to leave the lake earlier than 5 or 6 on Sunday after being out all weekend without touching dry ground. I feel lucky now lol.

Hang in there answer a few questions and things will get figured out.

So if they are different whats wrong with having both? You need backups, doncha???

With clearos buy name brand only, I had some no name clearos from a shop about a hour from me and they suck. Either stopped working in a matter of days or they leaked like a water main with a blow out

Thats the power of the P.

Personally I have not used them but other members here use them and speak good of them.

I generally vape anywhere from 3.2ml on a light day (like today) to 6.4ml on a heavy day. Generally I'm right about 4.8ml, though. Having said that, I can go through my eGo 900mah battery in a day pretty easily. The same is fairly true on my 1100mah Smoketech Winder VV battery. The difference though is that I usually set the voltage for 3.6v to 4.2v depending on what I'm vaping (3.6v to 3.8v for fruity flavors, 3.8v to 4.2v for tobacco or menthol flavors). At 4.2v, that 1100mah battery will be dead in 3.2ml almost exactly (two CE5 tanks), which can be a little discouraging but the variable voltage makes up for it and I always have my 900mah standing by and ready.

questions.....did you just quit smoking? how long have you been vaping? what nicotine strength are you using? what type of cartomizer/clearomizer are you using? what type of battery? we'll help you get things sorted out !

A friend just got a Vision Victory clearomizer and sold me on it. Went to my local brick and mortar and...went a little nuts. One red and two clear ones jumped into the bag all by themselves. The Vision Victory's review will follow soon. He now stocks Vision Spinners in 900 and 1300 mAh in all colors. I've been looking at the forest green and burgundy ones but could never find them online. Um...those two (900 mAh) followed me home. Hey, I couldn't decide between the two colors. The green one had a squishy button so I took it back and got it replaced. BIG MISTAKE -- walking back into that store. Lol. One of the guys working the store started talking about a Vision Eternity RBA. Been looking at various RBA for awhile now. He explained how to recoil and showed me a few tricks and...it followed me home too. *sighs*

I bought mine from Bucky's for $28.33 shipped. It arrived really fast, too.

mix the peach and the banana. They make an awesome smoothi type flavor. I went with 35 drop of banana in a 30 ml mix and 25 drops of peach.

awesome! I almost bought that one... then i got talked out of it! lol! i will be picking one up then since it seems to get rave reviews!

well what percentages are you mixing at? i have tried to let some of them steep and it works a little bit but most of the time i have found that my flavors dont usually come through unless they are potent enough. I like the stronger flavors though.

I've been using the T2 for about 2 weeks now and love them. I just got a few T3Ss yesterday and think I love them more. I seem to be burning through less juice with the T3S. You are absolutely right though, they both have their own set of pro and cons. I had the original T3, but they just wouldn't stop leaking. It was very frustrating.

Another thing I am liking about the T3S is not having to top off my liquids each night. I pretty much switch up my flavors throughout the day primarily between 3 flavors. At the rate I vape and the fact that the liquid tastes the same from top to bottom I now only fill tanks every other or every third day. This makes up for the little bit of extra work it is to fill the T3S. With the T2s the flavor dropoff at a half a tank is significant enough I was topping them off every night when I got home from work.

2x 30ml bottles Druid's breath 12mg 70/30 from Greenman and 2 x smaller travel kits! Smaller 650mah batteries and clearo's with chargers and case. I know why they sent two chargers now. One of them didnt work! Nice padded case tho. I can fit my iTastevv/vw in it also!

Totally makes sense. That is why I love the T3S even with the occasional small leaks because I feel like I get all the flavor, if not more, than the T2s produce and the cooler vape a bottom coil unit provides without the metallic taste I get in the KPT. To me, the T3S is about the same unit as the KPT just not made of glass and metal. All the "working parts" are in the same place and work in exactly the same way. The first 1/8th to 1/4th of a tank on a top coil unit may have a tiny amount more flavor but not appreciable in my experience.

Oooh, good to hear... My first spinner just shipped this morning!

Vision Spinner 1300MAH. I started using it Sunday morning about 10am and it just blinked dead literally 5 minutes ago. I feel like I vape a lot, but maybe I don't vape as much as I thought. I see some saying theirs last all day, but mine last 2-3 days.

I started using the one I am using now Sunday at the lake and it still is performing fully right now. I am amazed how long these things last.

I second tam, I know when my twist is going near dead. Vapor production gets weaker and weaker once it nears quarter charge.

Personally I'm not fond of the dct, they can be messy to fill, lose juice when the carto goes bad because you have to remove it completely from the tank along with all juice. The vivi nova or kanger protank is less hassle, less messy, easier to maintain. As far as the battery I use a ego c twist also variable voltage. Can't really give advice on the battery you are asking about because I know nothing about it.

Before you started vaping did you put the battery on a charger and let it fully charge? If you did then I'd say get in contact with the vendor and get a new one. If not, put it on the charger and make sure it's topped up. Even though they come partially charged it might not have enough oomph to work at its best. Just a thought.

Yes, you are right about the taste difference. I started my vaping, today, with one of the sample bottles. That USA Tobacco sample bottle was 18mg nicotine. The larger bottle, of the same flavor (purchased separately from the kit), contained 24mg of nic. I had, initially, assumed that they were both the strength. After this first filling is through, I will start on the larger bottle. Starting at the strongest, and working myself down, is (I feel) the way to go to wean myself off of nicotine completely.

Great review/comparison. Very thorough with lots of great information. I know Ive decided to stick with my T2s for now. Especially since it's the perfect portable set up for me. I have recently tried out a couple of dripping systems that are great when I'm home relaxing.(it has now replaced my T2 as my "at home" set-up. Cant beat the flavor and vapor production). But, for ease of use its hard to beat the T2

Well, if you don't have any takers I sure would love to have it. I love mine, even better then my Mini Nova and I thought that was impossible. I have never tried the T2s and the T3s that you are talking about. But that is some great information.

Hi, Synther. My double-unit kit came with a sample pack of favors. There are eight, 3.7ml bottles, and the favors are as follows: Cool Mint, Tropical Breeze, Coffee & Cream, Mandarin Mango, Cherry Slush, Berry Pomegrante, Vanilla Cupcake and USA Tobacco. I smoked my last cigarette, a little earlier in the day, and then went about filling my eGo Twist. I powered it on, gave it one pull, and powered it back down. I just wanted to see that it WAS a functioning unit. I have to say that I was quite impressed. The flavor was a bit different from what I have been used to, from analogs, but that was to be expected. I got a good hit, but there was an aftertaste left in my mouth, which wasn't too bad, but something else that I will have to get used to. The flavor that I tried was the USA Tobacco one, due to thinking that it would be the closest to what I had already been inhaling. I had also bought a larger bottle of the USA Tobacco flavor, but will eventually get around to trying all of the flavors out. However, no complaints. I know that change requires transitioning, and that is a passage which can (in THIS situation) more easily be traveled when focus is kept on the extreme benefits to be realized.

To me, the KPT is the worst ranked of all the delivery devices I have tried based on taste alone. I cant review it because of how much I didn't like it, and since most everyone here loves them I am marking it up to personal taste although the person that sent it to me agrees it makes the juice taste like liquid metal. I am most likely in the vast minority and this is why I didn't mention it in this review. I was so excited when it came in the mail, and was a gift from another member and friend here. When I first loaded it with liquid I thought maybe it was just the "new" taste. Then I changed coils and alcohol-Vodka washed it and put in a new coil and the same taste was there at the same level. Its a metallic taste, probably due to the metal mouthpiece, but am going to try and trade my KPT and 10 coils for something of equal value at some point and if I cant most likely I will give it away. I offered it back to the person that gave it to me but they also feel like it gives liquid a, and I quote, "vile" metallic taste and didn't want it back. It has been sitting in a shot glass on my bar for a couple weeks now. It works, looks great, doesn't leak, and is easy to use but if you cannot stand the way it makes things taste its not really fair to review it imo.

Actually, atomizers predate cartomizers by quite some time, but they did have a lot to do with the birth of cartomizers. The very first e cigs were fed by poly-filled cartridges that you filled with e-liquid and slid into the end of an atomizer. The saturated poly-fill in the cartridge pressed against a stainless steel "bridge" above the atomizer's coil to transfer the juice into the atty's internal wick & coil. It didn't take long before some more adventurous early vapers tried dripping juice straight onto the atomizer's coil (bypassing the use of the cartridge) and found it to be quite tasty. Later, the atomizer & cartridge were combined into one unit for convenience and the cartomizer was born, but due to the excellent flavor it provides, the "dripping" trend remains alive (and very popular) to this very day. Sorry...I got off topic.

Excellent info, Uma.

My wife luvs her Marks pen with a stylus