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It feels great to have a batch turn out "right", doesn't it? I've been working on a new 5-flavor batch and after a week of trying different combos (and yes, a little suggestion from Comp), I finally realized that I needed to reduce the % of one flavor a tiny bit and add a 6th and 7th flavor... Now, it's PERFECT... or at least it is for me, lol. What I love most is saving $$! My SO and I are vaping more juice (twice as much at lower Nicotine levels, obviously), and spending about 5% as much on juice as we did from the B&M's... so I don't panic if I make a 5-10ml batch that doesn't meet flavor specs... it just goes down the drain or into the "mash" bottle to see what Flavor-Frankenstein I can come up with

My next mod:

Jon at Liion Wholesale did this test at the request of a user on another forum, and it shows yet another factor we need to look at when comparing batteries. We normally look at Amps and mAh to know which cells to choose, but battery sag makes a difference too. This test is right in the range of a .2 ohm mechanical build or what a single 18650 variable wattage mod would do at 70 watts or so (regardless of ohms) Best 18650 battery at 0.2 ohm or 16-21A pulsed loads

Just ordered a D4 charger for home need to bring my 2 batt charger too work

Anyone tried the new kanger 18650's?

I've always known my VTC4 and 25R preformed well in my Mechs, as well as my regulated boxes, so this is good info to support my theory as well. I've been using a few LG HE2 to try them out, and I must say they perform very well, too, but don't seem to last as long as the 25R's (maybe an hour or two less)... or it could just be my imagination, too? lol I'd love to see the LG's put through this same test.

The D4 and i4 are the same, as far as their charging capability. The D4 has a pretty LCD readout that shows the status of the battery charging, Voltage, etc., but either does the job nicely. I have two of the i4's, and they just work... and for ~ $15/each, you can't beat the price

You're welcome! No, you can charge in all 4 slots at the same time, but you cannot charge ONE 1.5V battery at a time, as it will damage the battery. You must do them in pairs (2 or 4) at a time when charging 1.5V batteries (AAA, AA, C, D).

Thanks Earthling does that mean it can only charge 2 at a time?

The UM chargers are basically the same as the D-series chargers (LCD displays), but they charge via USB, not AC power. They also have a port where you can charge a USB device, and you can select which device (battery or USB) charges first. If you are looking for a travel charger, the UM series will do well, but for home-use, I'd still recommend the i-series or d-series NiteCore chargers.

Yeah, an unknown battery is not a good thing... it could be one of those $0.99 Ultrafire or Trustfire batteries. I would find out what you have! I've been buying my Samsung batteries, and my last NiteCore charger, from Amazon lately... The charger was $15, and the last set of 4 batteries were $21, so yes, you can get a charger and pair of batteries for under $30, and if you have PRIME, you can have them in 2-days or less, with free shipping. Oh, and I picked up a pair of LG HE2 last week from the local Walgreen's drug store... $5/each, so you may check your local drugstore too

The vendor I linked to is relatively unknown to me. I have only ordered from them a couple of times. Both orders were quick, and as ordered. I just knew that would be the quickest place to find both.

I just type faster But, we're on the same page!

Temperature control is like a speed limit. You set your temp limit for just below the flash point of your wick and it keeps it from burning. You can press the fire button with a completely dry cotton wick and you won't burn it. Dry hits are so painful because when there's no juice in the wick, it starts to char. No more dry hits with temp control.

Ok. Clue me in. What is temperature control and how does it work?

For me, it's not about the water resistance...it's the fact that it's got temp control for under $70. That makes it hard to pass up. No more dry hits or scorched cotton wicks.

I just saw this on taste your juice's blog: By pbusardo on 22 March 2015 in Recent News with No Comments Ok folks, thanks to the wonderful advocates we’ve found out the CA Dept of Health is about to unleash lies and propaganda against vaping. We are getting a jump on them. We might not have the millions but we have passion! Let’s amplify this website to counter their fear-mongering! In other words SHARE SHARE SHARE… and… SHARE!!!! http://notblowingsmoke.org/

The reason I went to tax free Indian cigs here in NY

And they call "Us" lairs. Seems to me they are ones spreading lies.

Well, I just saw one of these California Dept of Public Health ads last night on TV. Just as commentary, I had a surprisingly strong reaction of betrayal. These ads are very slickly produced. They are not cheaply thrown together and they are very cleverly designed to frighten the general public with alarming misinformation. It's done with an authoritative air and this group of ads punches up long debunked issues on vaping.. There are NO facts, NO supporting evidence, no studies cited etc. it is just pure and simple rumor mongering without substantiation.. Appalling. It is discouraging to think your own tax money funds this BS. The really sad part is in this modern day media "no accountability" mentality where anyone with the bucks can stand up and spew lies and innuendo designed to cripple a well-meaning, grass roots movement, the uninformed will eat up this garbage thinking they've just been given the facts and they will unwittingly propagate this BS. Frankly, the Cal Dept of Pub Health has just made enemies of millions of potential allies. It is just the very definition of insanity. Cutting off your nose to spite your face. This sort of unbridled irresponsibility from those in a position of trust is exactly how corruption spreads in a society and how that society weakens as a result. The CDPH has just stood up and declared they are not interested in public health at all, but are in the pockets of those who would profit from the very diseases they so righteously claim to be fighting. Insane. Here is a link to a very good article debunking the CDPH's campaign. http://www.electroniccigaretteconsumerreviews.com/still-blowing-smoke-org-fact-vs-fiction/

I agree wholeheartedly you said what a lot people are thinking feeling and saying just not out loud

I agree with you there tam i just gave a trucking buddy of mine the info on the setup i am using (ipv-mini 30w and 5ml nautilus) and told him to to go to sweet-vapes or here at the V.T. store to buy them.

Going out on a limb with this, but I think we the people should tax the government and get our money back. Or at least treat the Government like a business we are investing in and vote to drop every officials pay to current federal minimum wage. Make them sign up and get private health insurance. Outlaw special interest and fine the offenders heavily. And as an investor I would recommend firing those who don't do their job to meet our expectations.

This is true everywhere. If it was truly about saving lives they would ban smoking along with alcohol. The tax revenue is just too great. I am curious if they are just mounting a huge anti-vaping campaign as blackmail to enact a semi-voluntary tax. I really think they should just outlaw disease and death....problem solved. (it would be hard to enforce in the case of death)

What happened to that BettyCrocker "CompyCrocker" Recipe Book you were working on???...

Anyone have any good recipes they wanta share? I havent tried Mothers Milk yet. Anyone have one for that. Also how do u go about testing your flavors, do u just keep changing your cotton?

This is an unprotected flat-top battery (Samsung 25r 18650). A button-top battery (looks like the top of a AA or D-cell) typically has a protection circuit built-in to prevent over-charge or over-discharge in a device.

I noticed this today, not sure what they are trying to tell me "Unprotected Flat Top Battery"

I am a noob, but have a question. Why would anyone "cloud chase"? What is the point? I am not sure what advantage blowing a lot of smoke really is. Isnt the point to find a satisfying taste (and nicotine intake if you are switching from tobacco)

Bebop, I agree that our ability to have the products we now enjoy took inovation and effort by ppl in the past. I can't thank them enough for the oportunity to enjoy what I can today. Happy, I'm not saying that regulations here or abroad are in the best interest of ppl who want to vape. What I'm saying is that as a whole, vapers would likely not want to be judged based on their activisim. In other words, if you don't speek out or know the latest political actions you're a bad person/vaper. To catagorize ppl based on that is wrong IMO. Most are just trying to get by and reduce harm to themselves. I don't deny that supporting any organization that promotes our rights as vapers is a good thing!

I'm just gonna jump in here because its an interesting discussion anyway..... Of note - it's usually the guys pushing the envelope in any endeavor that end up innovating the subject and bring better progress to the greater scene. It's true in just about any field. Much of what us casual vapers enjoy on a daily basis was spawned by guys sweating in the workshop looking for new and better... so I don't think it's completely healthy to squelch that kind of activity in general. There will always be idiots and we will suffer set backs from them for sure. Responsibility is still key and maybe our responsibility lies in continuing to inform those who will not be informed no matter, that tje benefits of vaping still far outweigh any destruction caused by the not-so-bright.

yeah but it could be fun and educational tho hehehe

The only reports I have seen about Texas are a some eGo's that blew when charging. Most were people charging them to long or not using the charger that came with the battery. Do you have a link? If so please post it.

It is also a good example of why you use the right batteries in a Mech and not just putting in any battery.

I'm going to sticky this topic with a title change because as has already been said, battery safety is a serious issue. One I think some of the newcomers don't take seriously enough. Great video.

I'm surprised the acid didn't eat through that cardboard box lol.

Oh no, definitely not.

Brutal. I've been waiting for one of these videos to pop up somewhere. Thanks for sharing, Rob.

New DIYer question: Which flavors tend to overwhelm/dominate other flavors when added to mix?

Bought a half gallon for cleaning tanks and such, lady looked at me funny. Got an even funnier look when I said I wasn't going to drink it.

Use vodka you'll be fine I use Absolute some use Everclear either one will do. I stay away from the cheap stuff for juices. I save the cheap stuff for atty cleaner.

Yes flavor %. I'll start @ 15% and see how it goes. Thx...

No worries. Glad to help out. Its great to have a place to ask before you invest more money. Just have fun. Lots and lots of trial and error. ask away if you run into more questions.

Wow.. that's a lot of well thought out information. Thanks a lot

Water soluable flavors mix better with the PG and VG bases. oil based flavorings can kill the heating elements. the oils gunk up the coils. Most of the flavors at these sites are water soluable http://www.ecigexpress.com/ http://www.onestopdiyshop.com/products/The-Flavor-Apprentice-Professional-Flavors.html I haven't found a good way to get rid of the perfume flavor with certain flavors....I just end up moving to a new flavor.

Adding to much will get that perfume taste. The best you can do is let us know what flavors you are playing with & we can maybe offer some suggestions Sent from my SPH-M820-BST using Tapatalk

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I know this is a pretty late response, but how is your juice going? I would add something to your kit--sweetener. I personally am a huge fan of Perfumer's Apprentice/Flavor Apprentice sweetener, which, if I remember correctly, is sucralose.

Lorann: Candy Flavoring. Very concentrated flavoring. Best for sweet flavors. 2. Can be purchased from the Lorann site. Avoid Flavors that are oil based. If you click on the 'item detail' button it will tell you if it is water soluble or insoluble. You want only water soluble flavorings. The oils can burn out the atomizer and are harder to mix. 2. Can be purchased from the Lorann site. Avoid Flavors that are oil based. If you click on the ‘item detail’ button--it will tell you if it is water soluble or insoluble. You want only water soluble flavorings. The oils can burn out the atomizer and are hard to mix. Lorann 3. Can Also be purchased from many vaping suppliers that carry DIY supplies. DIY flavorshack Totally wicked