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Cut it with my favorite vanilla juice....tastes just like good n plentys....

Here is part 2 of the test. This is simulating a pulsed load at 70W on a Single 18650 variable wattage mod (or 2 at 140W total): Best 18650 Battery at pulsed loads of 70W per battery

I have only lost 1 25R completely, but I can tell that some are not lasting as long as they were. I normally put in a fresh one before I leave to work, then replace that evening (8 - 10 PM). With the HG2, I don't have to replace. I realize that is totally unscientific, but it seems to be consistent. On a side note, I have been leaving batteries in my ipvD2 overnight, and it seems to be slowly draining them. I think I need to start taking them out at night.

I've looked at the HG2 as well... but haven't tried any of them. I figure as more of my older batteries reach retirement, I'll try something newer/better, and the HG2 are at the top of my list. I've been running 25R's almost exclusively since January, and so far have only lost two of them (probably older stock?), and still have 10 running strong. My VTC4's have been work-horses for more than a year, but I've retired them to use only in my Cloupor's where they will see lower Wattage demands, and hopefully will last even longer that way? Even though they are only 2100mAh, they still last nearly 2-days in my Cloupor's (running 8.5-12W avg).

I have really loved my 25R's. My first 2 batches that I bought are starting to get a little weak. I have PIF a few, but I don't feel like it is best thing to do, so as I replace them, I will recycle them. I recycled my last set of VTC3's, but all of my VTC4's are still running good (they are all married). I think I am going to start replacing my 25R's, HE2's, and HE4's with HG2's and possibly 30Q's. I can tell a noticeable difference in how long they last. The HG2 preforms nearly as good (Total Amperage) as the 25R but lasts longer. I am also going to try out the 30Q's. They are only rated at 15A, but tests about like a 20A battery. Since I only vape at 40 watts I should be ok because that is only 14 A. ((40/3.2)*1.1) I have a pair on order, I will post my very unscientific findings as soon as I try them out.

Yes... it will, but 1.5V batteries must be charged in pairs to prevent damage. Paired slots are 1&3, 2&4

Interesting info on the Green-wrapped 25r5's... same performance, as the blue 25r2, but higher lifecycle counts. I'll have to look for those next time I buy batteries! Thanks, Jason... good info

Charging through the unit (pass-through) is not an issue... that is why that port is there... not everyone has multiple batteries and chargers Yes, having more batteries is always a good thing... because you can swap them out as needed, and you're not tethered to a USB cord while it is charging. Also, the best reason is in case a battery fails during charge-cycle (rare, but can happen), which could spell disaster for you. I recommend having at least 2 batteries for your mod (at minimum). Label the batteries when you buy them, with the date and a letter (A-B-C-D), so you can remember which one is next in rotation... (ie. Pull battery-B, insert battery-C), and how old they are. This will ensure each battery is used equally, and they will provide max-life that way. For an external charger, buy a NiteCore i2 or i4! Their D2/D4 chargers look cool, but don't work any better than the i-series, they only cost more. For batteries... you can't go wrong with Samsung 25r or LG HE2. Purple eFest are probably over-kill in Amp-rating for your box, but still will work fine, but the Samsung are probably the lowest cost of the recommended batteries (I have more than a dozen of them, so I can say "I trust them").

Interesting. Is it automatic? In other words does it adjust for change in coil resistance? Or maybe I should ask - does it limit by voltage or by actual temperature, and how does it sense this? Just curious.

definitely interesting, i wasnt crazy about the blue but the grey and black arent so bad

Cool looking

Very Nice !!

Nanny states never let facts get in the way of their attempts to control what we do. Just happy I was born and live where I do.

Unfortunately, I live in this state. I only quit smoking and started vaping a little over a month ago. Now I find myself defending vaping as the lesser of two evils to my family. They are happy as hell I have given up the analogs...now I find myself explaining to them those commercials are a lot of hype.

1k times liked what Tam just said..... however I do a lot of buying off of trusted sellers on ebay.. I hardly every buy anything that I want if a seller has 100 different paints & a bunch of clothes that looks like he just cabbaged up on a GoodWill dumpster.. ALWAYS RESEARCH who your buying from, if you have a good feeling about them then buy,, its always BUYER BEWARE.....

Sorry for the misunderstanding. It isn't my site. I just read about it on the Taste Your Juice blog and reposted it. I am sure that the people there are looking for anyone skilled and willing to help. I really don't know who they are though.

And you beat me to it.

When California puts out anything to discourage vaping I'm very suspicious that they really don't want anyone to quit smoking. They get too much tax money from the sale and continued sale of cigarettes. Not so with vaping gear and e-liquids. Thanks for the link, Jason.

This would be so terrifying!!! I have heard stories of mods blowing up, but I haven't seen a video of it before! I will never buy this model! Ahhhh!

Very interesting read. I'll be sure to try your tip of using a very small amount of Menthol to create a less harsh hit without full menthol flavor. I'll visit my local smoke shop in the next few days to pick some up and report back with the results. Gotta finish watching my History Channel. American Revolution Patriots Rising! So far so good!!!

A family member (a former smoker who quit at least 21 years ago, never tried vaping) took a cousin into a local vape shop (the only time he's gone into a vape shop, ever, the family member, not the cousin), and he was definitely NOT HAPPY. The same shop I was talking about in my previous post. There were a couple of cloud chasers sitting on the couch watching TV just hanging out, and he said it was ridiculous. He's seen us vape, of course, over the last year and a half, and knows that it's not what we do, but it annoyed him that some people were purposely doing that.

That is definitely a turn off, i think to lots of newbies. A few weeks before i started vaping i went into a local shop to look around and when i opened the door it was worse than walking in a Smokey bar. It was a dense cloud everywhere and had an unpleasant odour. Talking with the owner i asked him how busy they had been. He said not busy at all, just him and his brother most of the morning. It was a total turnoff. I figured what would the purpose of quitting cigarettes would be if that was what vaping was like. I eventually came around by reading some more online and have ordered all my stuff online. I really have no desire to go into a local store

And this is reason #754 why many of us try to discourage people from buying e-cig related stuff from eBay.

Holy Shi*! This is terrifying! This is the unit that I started using electronic cigarettes with! I switched to an eStick and now Im sure glad I did. Not using a combustible in my mouth anymore!

I remember my friends cel phone exploding on the kichen table and freaking us out - batteries can be unpredictable !

I would rather take the attitude of live and let live rather than assume that anything someone else does that I do not like is somehow an attack on my personal freedoms.

I cannot speak as to the tact you used to convey your message but this specific post I couldn't agree with more. I see cloud chasing competitions and all the pushing the limits of equipment overall as the biggest single threat to our continued freedom to vape as we want. It's a lot of the reason I post so much less than I used to because it's all you see anymore and instead of complain I abstain lol. And I mean no insult by anything I said toward anyone but it's just how I feel and in no way directed at anyone. Right now we have our right to vape and you can do it any way you want but that could change quickly and things like competitions and cloud chasing highlight the small % of Vapers out there and take the focus off quitting smoking cigarettes imo.

Okay, let's all play nice here. Don't make me stop the car. *stern look* This topic is a very good chance to impart some much needed safety issues concerning batteries. Let's not devolve this into an argument. We now return you to your regularly scheduled "POLITE DISCUSSION."

I think most of us that vape are casual in that choice, meaning we vape but don't keep track of every political impact across the country. This doesn't meen that we don't care. As with any cause, some are more active than others. I aslo believe we all want the same thing, to have the ability to vape and enjoy a less harmful way than analogs. For us, as a comunity of vapers to push and pull constantly against eachother is not going to help anyone IMO.

Ok, this is getting out of hand.

Umm, there`s an ointment for that bud. Try it. Having read some of your other posts, Im going to suggest to you, There is a point where you really should just "listen".

Hi Comp, Not singling you out, I`m sorry you came to that conclusion, a bit premature on your part maybe? But in all honesty, that is your prerogative. I really don`t know how you would take it personally, but that is beyond my control. I tend to abbreviate, that`s just me. I am NOT JUDGING people, that`s your opinion only and I wont own that. I AM however JUDGING actions. You like Vaping in public places? Even in dedicated lounges? Well, every anti-vaper now has the power of the internet to prove to others why you should not have that freedom. To be able to tell you not to, to pass laws prohibiting you to do so, to even pass laws making the ownership of such devices completely ILLEGAL if they get enough dumbass`s to believe their argument. All in the name of public safety they`ll say. The internet never forgets, and now the radical self righteous know it all`s have the ability to pull this up and show it to all the "Unbelievers"! FOREVER! You think we are the only people talking about this specific case? Each and EVERY time this happens (and it can only happen more if this is encouraged), the anti vaping agenda will get a little more proof that they should be in control, you want that? A little more proof that anyone even having such a device on their person while in a public space is a serious danger to all the other nose led sheeple. Realize that even with the bestest most fantastic gold plated clergy blessed battery, it can be inherently dangerous. And to encourage young adults who in some case`s may even be children to do this is counterproductive to the rest of us vapors. I am not against cloud chasing, we all like to see that big cloud, but to ENCOURAGE an inherent dangerous activity in a "competition" setting, just for "balls" sake, well, Iv made my argument. Final comment. I`v personally been treated like a child beating scumbag because I chose to vape instead of smoke, encouraging this "competing" attitude will only ensure that I`m treated even worst. I`ll stick by my logic. And no harm no foal buddy, :?) Best, Randall

http://vapordigest.com/vape-show-attendees-remain-calm-despite-possible-tragedy/ Heres a link to an article about it. I couldn't find video. But I saw the after math it was about worse case scenario as far as mod failing hole in floor and ceiling.

Guy blew his 26650 mutant up at a cloud comp at the big convention in texas. P Bsuardo did a vid on it about two weeks ago. It literally blew a hole in the floor. If I can find link I will post it.

It is not unlike the Government to think they are protecting everyone from the ignorance of the few. A good example are Fireworks, also became heavily regulated and just plain banned in some states.

Banana will overpower most flavors. I usually only add about 3 drops to a 10ml batch otherwise its too much. I have also noticed that too much flavor doesn't necessarily ruin the juice, what will though is when you are not calculating the ratio of the juice to your PG/VG content. However, a good tip to remember is.... sometimes less is more.

That really does sound strange. Not sure if possibly the wrong strength of nicotine or possibly a strange reaction to one of the flavors..... If you already diluted it down, I would lean toward a reaction to one of the flavors. If you are still getting strong throat hit....maybe try diluting a bit more and see how that works.

Ok whipped up 4 diff juices and tried cpl lastnight, started feeling light headed and didn't think much of it. This morning tried again and 4 - 5 drags same thing hazy and light headed. Too much Nic? Using the ejuicemeup calc and measured twice. Possible they miss marked the Nic strength? I can't hit the stuff 3 times without the haziness starting. Even tried dbling up the pg / vg in it. Supposed to be 36mg nic and I set everything up for 12 - 14 nic strength, so?

Exactly !!! its much easier to add a bit more than to try to take it away. I usually mix at about 20-25% depending on the mix. some tobacco flavors are very, very strong and only need a couple of drops.

I've highlighted the items I use most often when mixing. the 3ml bottles are the most helpful for mixing small amounts. as far as the kit....sounds like a good combination of items, you may find you won't need some of it. but that part is up to you. Currently I use 100mg/ml nicotine for mixing.....Keep in mind, Its is very toxic at this strength, then again 60mg/ml is nothing to get careless with either. Most bases, flavorings etcs come in PG. for PG/VG mixes you need to take this into account. I use the eliquid recipe manager for android on my phone. can help manage PG/VG rations, multiple flavorings etc. These 2 links are for quart size PG and VG. you can buy it by the gallon(s) for cheaper, but it is way too much and will expire before you can use it. Before investing a ton in DIY, start small and see if you like it. http://www.amazon.com/Glycerin-Vegetable-Kosher-USP-Quart/dp/B004C7MTLA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372754260&sr=8-1&keywords=usp+vegetable+glycerin http://www.amazon.com/Propylene-Glycol-Food-Grade-Quart/dp/B005PZBRUC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372754187&sr=8-1&keywords=usp+pg Hope that helps a little. give a shout out if you need more info. We have a few DIYers on the forum. Merry Mixing

Question 1. Yes, you can use different types of flavoring but not all are going to give good results. Most of the flavorings I use contain artificial and/or natural flavors, PG and not much else but sometimes contain small amounts of water, alcohol, and so on. There are some ingredients that are un-friendly to attys and cartos but I can't give you a complete list off the top of my head; for instance you shouldn't use any anything that contains sugar or honey. Most of the flavorings I use (Lorann's, FlavourArt, Cappellas, FlavorWest, Perfumers Apprentic, CK products, Tasty Puffs) are fairly strong and sometimes very strong and it depends on the flavor. A very strong flavor might only need 2%-5% in the final mix but most fall into 15%-20% range. If a flavor requires more than 25% to flavor a DIY recipe it probably is diluted to the point where it is no good for vaping. Question 2. There are flavors that add sweetness without changing the original flavor much or sometimes enhance it. Cotton candy and Marshmallow are 2 examples. Ethol Maltol(EM) is the ingredient in cotton candy and it is what a lot of us use. I've also used suclarose. I know to use these in small amounts because too much will ruin a recipe. VG may add a bit of sweetness along with more vapor, this is why I like to use some in all my juice but I prefer mostly PG. Question 3. You can get a better TH by using a bit of menthol flavoring. As for extracting your own nicotine, well that sounds like tricky business and I don't think it can be done safely without proper testing equipment and knowledge. I've extracted a tea and tobacco flavoring by heating leaves in PG but I wasn't trying to extract nicotine and I don't think that I got much if any out but I was able to get a diluted flavoring that was usable.

is there any negatives about adding too much flavoring? like shelf life or anything like that

Update: Just want to add a couple newer vendors that have a very nice selection and great service. http://www.ecigexpress.com/ http://www.onestopdiyshop.com/products/The-Flavor-Apprentice-Professional-Flavors.html Merry Mixing

+1

does anyone know how I would go about making a cigar flavor?

A mixing calculator is helpful. Here's one. Here's another. And one more. The last one is useful on a iPod Touch or iPhone only. I'm sure there is an Android version of something similar. Good luck and happy mixing and vaping!

Sticked

You do! Any juice will do... honestly. Like she said... it doesn't make it "menthol juice"... just adds a perfect little kick. Trust the QUEEN. EDIT: I thought you meant you didn't have a juice to add any to. My bad.

I had wanted to put something together sooner--but I am very, very good at procrastination. I love being able to share DIY. I'm looking forward to seeing some new recipes....... DayVape--I always forget about cinnamon. Just added some to an apple pie mix I made--just the perfect touch. Thanks.

Thank you !!! If you see anything that needs to be clarified, changed or added please speak up...... I find DIY fun and would love input from others, success or failures, tips and tricks.