GPurv

PG = Propylene Glycol
VG = Vegetable Glycerin

They are used as bases for e-liquids... you can buy it with or w/o nicotine.
I would buy some plain PG or VG to thin your stuff down till you prefer it.
You can buy VG at many drug stores and walmart type stores... typically in the Beauty section I think.
Its actually used a skin protectant, etc. I dont know where to buy PG except for online... many vendors sell both and are quite cheap. Remember that the PG is much thinner than VG... so decide what you need by looking at how thick your juice already is.

Of course Beans and her mad typing skills beat my cclumbsy fingers.

My guess is that since you are knew to vaping you are probably hitting it a lot...like we all do when new juices arrive, etc. It will more than likely slow a tad when the new wears off... maybe.


On a side note:

If you guys find that your 510 batteries arent lasting you long enough and you are constantly charging them.... keep the "eGo"/"Riva"/"Tornado"/etc. in mind as your next unit. (they come in all sorts of names due to the fact there are knock-offs abound.) The great thing is all of your 510 'stuff' will work on the eGo batteries. You are basically just upgrading to a much better battery that will provide a more consistent 'hit' throughout its battery life. They dont tend to drop off nearly as quick as the small stick type batts do. So, it will feel like its providing a 'fully charged battery hit', for a lot longer time before dropping off. Just something to keep in mind for the future.

I agree, Beans.

I hear so many people, when upon hearing of someones illness, say something like, "But you know he/she is a smoker." Like that's the only reason a person would ever get sick. Now they'll probably change "smoker" to "vaper".

The fact of the matter is, everyone is different. His lung death may or may not have been caused by liquid/oil. Could have been he was already affected by some sort of lung disease or autoimmune disease. Anything that enters your lungs can damage them. With autoimmune diseases completely harmless chemicals/dust/air can trigger a reactions of various degrees. Even death.
Some of my doctors thought me moving from the desert to LA county where the smog blankets the sky was enough to trigger mine. No other irritants or inhalants were involved. Well besides cigarettes. So them saying that e cigs killed him is most likely false. Underlying disease is the biggest suspect. IMHO of course.

Thanks GPurv & TroopX, This isn't going to be the walk in the park I envisioned when I first saw an e-cig used by Katherine Heigl on Letterman.
My reaction was "where do I get one of those? my cigarette days are over!"...oh well

I know, there are illegal drugs, but that doesn't stop people from getting or doing those either, but that's not the point. I don't want to be limited to some crappy tobacco flavored or zero nic juice, and I don't feel like dealing with stupid cops and fines if I decide to overstep whatever boundaries the FDA wants to put in place. I'm an adult, damnit, and I like fruity and candy flavors too. I don't feel like having to deal with all the bs that comes along with doing illegal drugs just for some damn nicotine, and I don't wanna pay thru the nose either.

My philosophy

I didn't start vaping to quit smoking, just to smell better and possibly get my sense of smell and taste back a little bit. I'm the only smoker i know who's never tried to quit smoking, and i think where a lot of people run into difficulty when they quit is that they make a big, dramatic production out of it, tell everyone who'll listen that they're quitting, throw away all their lighters and ashtrays, and if they make it a couple of days, they'll sometimes turn their nose up to people who still smoke as if they're king of the healthy life choices syndicate. It's no wonder they feel like a failure and get all depressed when they relapse, at that point they've built it up way too big, and i think, put WAY more pressure on themselves, and possibly forced their inevitable failure.

What i think will work best for me (and probably a lot of people), is not to say you're quitting smoking, not announce it to the world and have cnn film you throwing away all your ashtrays and lighters (keep those lighters for camping trips). hell, leave out your ashtrays, leave the butts in them until they smell too bad. Try vaping as an interesting hobby that tastes really good, do it more and more if you like, do it instead of smoking if you prefer, but don't build up the entire hopes of your existence on it, and don't misdirect a bad choice that you made into hate for tobacco, smoking, or even the people who profit from something that's inherently unhealthy. It was our choice to smoke just like it's our choice to vape, and if we have an analog today, so what? maybe we won't tomorrow, and if we do, it doesn't mean we're failures and that our entire lives are meaningless and all the baby foxes in canada are going to die, it just means that smoking is ridiculously addictive. And that one cigarette in a day, or a week, or however long, is nothing compared to the millions we had when we were full-time smokers.

Jon

I know the batteries are sealed but wondered if it's possible for eliquid to get into the button area. Is that all sealed as well?

I can't believe a customer has to register at a forum before they can get help in returning the product.

I received the product today and it's all corroded!!!

I don't see anything on the store site that relays how to return the product, no print out return slip, nothing but to register here.

I won't be buying again and I do expect a full refund. Perhaps I should call my credit card company to deny the charge.

Absolutely horrible site, horrible product, horrible service.

just wondering why would someone the time to put up there picture as avatar if you are so unhappy with this site i dont get it .things that make you go hmmmmmmmm

I wanted a place for vapors to share their storys about falling off the vape train and getting hit by the cig truck.

I feel its important for us to learn from each other, with our wins and fails!
Please take a min to share your fall off of vaping and your feelings about it, like did you feel guilty, or wanna just smack your self or were you ok with it? Aparently you got back on the train or you probably wouldent be seeing this.

Also provide any tips for others to not make the mistakes you may have made. And cause and effect of smoking after vaping.

To me I think it is important that we fail in order to learn, I smoke a cig here and there and every time it reminds Me of why I started vaping and how much I love it vs smoking.

Ok so I just have to know what's doing in your PRIVATE forum???


I've been meditating on this a for while and have come up with a theory.

Oh no, It's not a nice one. I've seen those bouncers outside the door. Ive watched the foot traffic. I even tried getting in this morning and was told I haven't paid the man yet. So I know it can't be all nice nice in there.
I just haven't decided what the business is........Illegal gambling, orgies, booze, loud music, fight clubs, easy women, human trafficking, I just can't figure out your angle. However, I am certain that the cash is being used to cover up the fact your hiding Elvis.

That's my story and I'm stickn to it!

I mix all my useless juices that just don't work with the random great ones I come across. I've had really good luck doing it too.
I just tried goodphropets "samplers" 30 mls for $6 and got several good juices. Maybe hit them up.

I'll try to make it short......

3 am sometime last September, Hubby was sitting on the couch watching TV when hears. TWHAK on our front door. So he pops it open sees the egg, and hears a bunch of kids down the block.
So he goes and throws his camo gear on and gets all sneaky....
He starts following them down the street, slinking behind cars and garages, trying to close some ground on them. When they spot him (he's kinda of a big guy) and he figures he'll have a little fun with the kids... So he starts shuffling his feet real loud, snorting and breathing real heavy and walking kind of crazy. Just really looking like a horror movie freak. LOL
They take off running for their lives, splitting up in every direction, but my guy he doesn't give up. No way he chases 1 kid 2 more blocks and grabs him by his shirt collar.
Drug the poor kid back to the house and threatens him with waking up his crazy evil wife that will eat him for dinner if he didn't clean up the mess. LOL yes he meant me. Well when I got up this kid was finishing washing the entire front of my house, siding, shutters, doors, Windexing all of my windows and picking up some candy wrappers on my front lawn.... All at 430 am, LOL He about started crying when he saw me come out. I told him I wouldn't turn him into the police since he cleaned up my house, but never come around here again!

Hahaha the power of being grown up.

Yes, I'm sure Hubby could have gotten in trouble for grabbing the kid, but it was hell of funny to watch this punk clean my house, to see the fear in his eyes when he saw me, and hear Hubby tell the story.

Makes us chuckle every time lol.

Well, it seems like the first to try would be Mikeusa, Vaporrenu and Vaporite. I still can't believe that prices may be that different. I would understand 20-30% difference but 3-4 times for the same stuff is just outrages.
Maybe it's worth creating a table with prices and the possibility to vote for quality. It will help to chose the best supplier and also create a healthy competition among them. There a lot of reviews in e-liquid section but too many and disorganized - hard to choose.

Hey Vapers! Here is my reply from Jack Johnson on the E-Cig ban:

Thank you for your e-mail concerning SB910. I appreciate you bringing this to my attention. I do not support the bill.

Sincerely,

Sen. Jack Johnson
Tennessee General Assembly
District 23 –Williamson and Davidson Counties
Nashville, TN 37243
Office: 615-741-2495
Email: sen.jack.johnson@capitol.tn.gov

Yes I'm already getting a hold of contacts to verify the legitimacy of this. Keep in mind that even if this is the case, the FDA at some point will probably start using the Substantial Equivalence to regulate e cigarettes. More on this here: http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProducts/ResourcesforYou/ForIndustry/ucm238891.htm

That's the latest in the FDA's hell bent mission to stop e cigarettes.

I have an eGo carto that I've had since Oct. still working! I love these things, my only complaint is trying to line up the mouthpiece with the button LOL. Small price to pay for great performance and price. I just have to let my OCD go when I use it. Right now I'm enjoying my eGo T, I'm really in love with this thing. Got red to match my eGo 5 click, looks pretty cool to boot.

Chewing gum is not listed as a smoking cessation device either and a lot of people use it or hard candy.I did until my dentist got on me.

yes!!!

I boil my LR 901's for 5 min, blow them out and let them dry. ALSO!!! funny taste can be from a burnt wick inside.. take a pair of tweezers and pull the wick out, no harm will be done, but the bad taste will be gone.


hope it helps

While I have yet to try this method, logically it makes sense. I don't clean atomizers anymore but when I did, water was a pain to get out of the atomizer. Even once the atomizer was "dry" it took about 20 minutes before it start working well again. A PG bath would give you an instant working atomizer. After all, it was designed to heat up PG.

My ultimate suggestion though, replace your atomizer every month if affordable. Some suppliers now sell Joye 510 atomizers in bulk @ 5 bucks for 25. I have to stress, if you do clean your atomizer to take caution when using hot objects. One member regrettably already burned herself. The cost in medical bills far outweighs the cost of replacement atomizers.

Hi bird! Don't worry, everyone eventually finds what they enjoy. I use standard eGo batteries with the
eGo HUGE Mega Cartomizers from VaporKings $2.45 (they can each last a week or more)

http://www.vaporkings.com/eGo-MEGA-blank-empty-cartomizer-Genuine-JoyeTech-p/ego-cartomizer-blank.htm

Filling a eGo HUGE Cartomizer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKjINSlX38E


Good luck. Let us know what works for you.

I smoked for 34 years. I loved smoking. I never wanted to quit, but felt like I should. Partly because of the health benefits and partly because of the cost. I didn't know that I couldn't breathe very well. I didn't know how bad I smelled. Until I quit. When I first heard about the ecig, my first thought was that I could keep "smoking" and yet not be smoking. I wouldn't have to give up the hand to mouth habit or the inhaling habit. Thrilled me all to pieces. It worked as well for me as I thought it would. From the very first inhale, I knew I never wanted another analog again. I absolutely love vaping. As much as I thought I loved smoking, it doesn't even come close to my love of vaping. I'm at 17 months and counting now. I have no plans whatsoever of quitting. I don't want to quit. I enjoy vaping - even at 0 nic. I love watching the clouds of vapor I produce. I look forward to sitting down to take a break and having my vape. I don't see me ever wanting to quit. Now, if it just happens...if someday down the road I find myself vaping less and less until I don't vape any more at all...well, that's okay. I just don't see me doing that on purpose. Like ripple, I find it to be a wonderful hobby and I can't say I'll never quit. I'm just not working towards that.

Ok people. Nothing here to see. Please return to your residence. Thank you, it's all ok.

(a cop told me that once when a guy with a gun was on the loose in my neighborhood. More on that later. maybe)

I guess I just don't look at eCigs as a "do this rather than smoke" kinda thing.

I must confess; but I must first say, I never led you on to believe otherwise. So here it is. I am BI.

There. YES. I SAID IT. I do both. AC/DC, double my dates, turn and look both ways, and yes, I avoid Korean fermented cabbage like the plague (another story there).

Give yourself that kind of a break. It feels good. (well, maybe I could have left the cabbage part out).

I have to agree that it all depends on what you want, need...and like. I have a couple of the 900s and I just don't like them. I didn't think they lasted much longer than the 650s and they are quite a bit longer. That extra length seems to bother me (only with the eGo for some strange reason). I have longer PVs and they seem to be fine. Perhaps because I used the 650s for so long and got used to them at that length. Maybe because they are small enough to hide in your hand if you want. I don't know, but I do know that I didn't care for the 900s and don't use them at all (nor the mega carts and attys I got to go with them). So much depends on personal preference.

I would look for the 1000 batteries just for the shear fact that you can push the button 5 times and lock them so they don't get turned on automatically. No more button protectors!