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    Jolly got a reaction from Vaponaut in Noobie Guide To Vaping   
    (Please only post questions OR additional noobie info in here to keep this thread clean. ie: no thank you, good post, etc, posts)

    This is to help you play catch up on what the veterans know.

    Basic ecig Parts

    A.) Cartridge - holds the ejuice and is also a mouth piece. this part can be replaced with a drip tip and is what most do
    B.) Atomizer - has an element that heats up the ejuice and as you pull air threw it vapor is produced.
    * sub B section - you can also use cartomizers, they are atomizers with filler to hold juice and are a tad shorter in size.
    C.) battery - these will be 3.7v Lithium Ion batteries, they supply the power to the atomizer. they come in auto (activated by suction) or manual (activated by button)

    Common Ecigs


    What's the best ecig
    This is more dependent on how you vape and your needs for vapor, throat/lung hit, battery life needs and other factors.
    Most people will advise the ego/tornado/riva as they all have a nice battery life and are built good (ego being the favorite of the three)
    this is the ego mega and regular batteries with manual buttons


    Ecig Model Numbers
    These are based on the atomizer they use
    when one says 510 kit, they generally are referring to the cigarette shaped ecig. like the first picture of this post.

    Why we tell you not to get cigarette shaped ecigs
    A cigarette shaped battery runs $12 for a normal manual 510

    9hrs at $20 (ego battery) 540mins
    45mins (510 kit battery) 540 ÷ 45 = 12
    12 (batteries) x $12 = $144

    so for mAh (Milliamp hours), it is a lot less expensive to buy a larger battery.
    this will also keep you from having to buy more batteries. explained after next set of math.

    510 kit batteries needed for 9hrs
    9hrs (540mins) ÷ (45min run time + 2hr charge time = 165mins) = 3.272727273 batteries needed to run 9hrs on 510 kit
    3 x $12 = $36 - 1 ego battery = $20 = $16 saved. that is initial cost only!!

    45min x 2 is what you have ready to go after your first needs charged (90mins).
    your first battery is going to take 2hrs to charge so by the time you run out the other two the first is done charging.
    so just to keep going you would need at bare minimum you want two 510 chargers, this means more $$.
    why you ask? at night when you don't have a single battery to use, you will only be able to charge 1 while you sleep. it would be more ideal to have 3 or one of the larger chargers that do more than one and have no less than 10 batteries ready to go.
    on top of this when you go out you will have a pocket full of batteries, making this not a very portable device to bring with you.

    other than that you have to recharge more often and the more you charge the more you replace. batteries have an # of recharges before they start failing to keep their charge. now you may say by logic that you are only charging once on those small batteries in that 9hr time, so there isn't an issue on life, BUT, the smaller the battery the less times you can charge it before the failing starts. also consider that you have 3 batteries that will fail

    First Order
    When you get an ecig make sure that you have spares of everything.
    the atomizers, cartomizers, batteries, and juice are all going to need purchased at some point again.
    Your first cart should consist of NO LESS than, 5 atomizers, 2 packs of cartomizers (5 in a pack), your kit, 2 extra batteries (i would advise mega batteries), 1 extra charger, and a nice amount of juice.
    the last thing you want is to have to wait on something you didn't buy enough of to come in. if one thing is missing you will go right back to smoking, nobody wants that.

    Mods and Why
    Mods are usually over looked or not even known to noobies of the ecig world.
    these devices can be anywhere from 3.7v to 8.4v.
    the point is that some people need one of two things, longer battery life with less cost and/or an aggressive throat hit.
    as a newbie i wouldn't advise a mod above 3.7v that doesn't have the option to go as low as 4.2v
    if it is not a variable voltage you are stuck on that till you get something lower if you don't like it.
    i say 4.2v because any 3.7v battery charges UP TO 4.2v. most people love vaping that initial fresh charged battery. voltage drops after usage to as low as 2.9v

    Mods will use batteries like these

    these are all 3.7v batteries with a much longer charge life vs a kit ecig.
    you can find almost all of these batteries from US suppliers for $5 each.
    a 3.7v mod using the largest battery (18650) can last you 4+ days @ $8 for the battery.

    some mods can last up to 4+ days before needing to be recharged.

    I'm not going to go into mods or pictures of mods. you can do that on your own, also watch youtube videos about the mods before thinking its large.
    the standard ones people use are
    silver bullet
    mako
    tekk mod (prone to cracking at the top unless you find someone that knows how to make them correctly)
    some sort of wetbox (check reviews of these missys wetbox fails quite often due to her under rated buttons and cost $15 to fix)
    (there are a crazy amount of mods out there, this is just a small list of the most talked about)

    Abbreviations

    General

    Noob - Beginner
    OP - Original Post(er)
    Analog - Regular Cigarette
    Mod - Homemade device or a Moderator.
    Pull - The act of sucking on the mouthpiece to pull the vapor into your mouth
    TH - Throat Hit (The tingling sensation in the back of your throat)
    Vapor - the "smoke" emitted from an e-cigarette
    Vape, Vaping - The use of an e-cigarette (similar to the term "smoking" when referring to an analog)
    Topping off - Adding drops of e-liquid to your current cartridge.
    Dripping - Vaping by adding a few drops of e-liquid directly on the atomizer instead of using a cartridge.
    Dipping - Sticking the bridge of the atomizer in e-liquid.

    E-Cigarette

    E-cig or E-cigarette - Electronic Cigarette
    PV - Personal Vaporizer
    Atty - Atomizer
    Cart - Cartridge
    Bat - Battery
    Filler - The fiber found inside your cartridge that holds your e-liquid
    PCC - Personal Charging Case
    SD - ScrewDriver
    JS - Janty Stick
    PT - Passthrough or passthrough battery
    2-piece/Disposable - 2 part e-cigarette. The Battery and a "cartomizer".
    Cartomizer - An atomizer built into the cartridge, marketed as disposable (you throw it away when the e-liquid is used up).
    3-piece - 3 part e-cigarette. Battery, Atomizer, and Cartridge.
    Cutoff - Refers to how long the battery will activate the atomizer before shutting down (safety measure to protect the atomizer).

    E-Liquid

    E-juice, e-liquid, juice - the liquid nicotine that you fill your cartridges with.
    DIY - Do it yourself (homemade e-liquid mixture)
    PG - Propylene Glycol
    VG - Vegetable Glycerin(Glycerine = glycerin = vegetable glycerin(e) = glycerol)
    PEG - Polylethylene Glycol

    Suppliers

    VT - Vaportalk
    VG - Vaporgalaxy
    VB - Vaporbomb
    ENS - electronicstix
    JC - Johnson Creek
    PS - PureSmoker
    TW - Totally Wicked
    EST - E-smokeytreats
    JS - JantyStick
    SD - ScrewDriver
    GG - The GG!

    Miscellaneous

    FDA - Food and Drug Administration
    ECA - Electronic Cigarette Association
    NRT - Nicotine Replacement Therapy (patch, gum, e-cig)
    PH - Public Health
    BP - Big Pharmaceutical Companies
    BT - Big Tobacco Companies
    ALF - American Legacy Foundation
    'Anti's - Anti-smoking people who do not acknowledge that vaping is a viable alternative to smoking analogs.
    RYO - Roll your own (tobacco)

    Universal Forum Lingo

    AFAIK - As Far As I Know
    BTW - By The Way
    DOA - Dead On Arrival (didn't work from the moment I got it)
    FWIW- For What It's Worth
    FYI - For Your Information
    IDK - I Don't Know
    IIRC - If I Recall/Remember Correctly
    IMO or IMHO - In My Opinion or In My Humble Opinion (some mean 'H' to be Honest)
    IOW - In Other Words
    JK or JJ - Just Kidding or Just Joking
    JS - Just Saying
    OMG or OMFG - Oh My God and it's adult extension
    PITA - Pain In The ***
    PWN - Own or "dominate"
    ROTFLOL - Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud
    ROTFLMFAO - ^ Adult Extension of above
    SOL - (can't be helped or fixed)
    (SP?) - Used when unsure of the spelling of the previous word
    TIA - Thanks In Advance
    TMI - Too Much Information (too personal)
    TOS - Terms Of Service ("the rules")
    TROLL - A person that posts in a forum/thread with the sole intention of provoking an argument (can sometimes also imply a "spy")
    TY - Thank You
    WOOT - Exclamation, as in Hooray! (Sometimes: Want One Of Those)
    WTF - Same As below
    WTH - What/Where/Who The Hell
    YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (your experience may differ from mine)
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    Jolly got a reaction from AimeeG in The Start Of The Mark Mod Song   
    here are the lyrics that go over "ridin dirty" song at this youtube link




    I see 'em vapin'
    I'm hatin
    Contest, and they be hopin they gona beat me
    be tryin to get marks woody
    be tryin to get marks woody
    be tryin to get marks woody
    be tryin to get marks woody
    My nic so high
    I'm twichin
    They hopin they gon' win da woody
    be tryin to get marks woody
    be tryin to get marks woody
    be tryin to get marks woody
    be tryin to get marks woody
  3. Like
    Jolly got a reaction from masurao in Noobie Guide To Vaping   
    (Please only post questions OR additional noobie info in here to keep this thread clean. ie: no thank you, good post, etc, posts)

    This is to help you play catch up on what the veterans know.

    Basic ecig Parts

    A.) Cartridge - holds the ejuice and is also a mouth piece. this part can be replaced with a drip tip and is what most do
    B.) Atomizer - has an element that heats up the ejuice and as you pull air threw it vapor is produced.
    * sub B section - you can also use cartomizers, they are atomizers with filler to hold juice and are a tad shorter in size.
    C.) battery - these will be 3.7v Lithium Ion batteries, they supply the power to the atomizer. they come in auto (activated by suction) or manual (activated by button)

    Common Ecigs


    What's the best ecig
    This is more dependent on how you vape and your needs for vapor, throat/lung hit, battery life needs and other factors.
    Most people will advise the ego/tornado/riva as they all have a nice battery life and are built good (ego being the favorite of the three)
    this is the ego mega and regular batteries with manual buttons


    Ecig Model Numbers
    These are based on the atomizer they use
    when one says 510 kit, they generally are referring to the cigarette shaped ecig. like the first picture of this post.

    Why we tell you not to get cigarette shaped ecigs
    A cigarette shaped battery runs $12 for a normal manual 510

    9hrs at $20 (ego battery) 540mins
    45mins (510 kit battery) 540 ÷ 45 = 12
    12 (batteries) x $12 = $144

    so for mAh (Milliamp hours), it is a lot less expensive to buy a larger battery.
    this will also keep you from having to buy more batteries. explained after next set of math.

    510 kit batteries needed for 9hrs
    9hrs (540mins) ÷ (45min run time + 2hr charge time = 165mins) = 3.272727273 batteries needed to run 9hrs on 510 kit
    3 x $12 = $36 - 1 ego battery = $20 = $16 saved. that is initial cost only!!

    45min x 2 is what you have ready to go after your first needs charged (90mins).
    your first battery is going to take 2hrs to charge so by the time you run out the other two the first is done charging.
    so just to keep going you would need at bare minimum you want two 510 chargers, this means more $$.
    why you ask? at night when you don't have a single battery to use, you will only be able to charge 1 while you sleep. it would be more ideal to have 3 or one of the larger chargers that do more than one and have no less than 10 batteries ready to go.
    on top of this when you go out you will have a pocket full of batteries, making this not a very portable device to bring with you.

    other than that you have to recharge more often and the more you charge the more you replace. batteries have an # of recharges before they start failing to keep their charge. now you may say by logic that you are only charging once on those small batteries in that 9hr time, so there isn't an issue on life, BUT, the smaller the battery the less times you can charge it before the failing starts. also consider that you have 3 batteries that will fail

    First Order
    When you get an ecig make sure that you have spares of everything.
    the atomizers, cartomizers, batteries, and juice are all going to need purchased at some point again.
    Your first cart should consist of NO LESS than, 5 atomizers, 2 packs of cartomizers (5 in a pack), your kit, 2 extra batteries (i would advise mega batteries), 1 extra charger, and a nice amount of juice.
    the last thing you want is to have to wait on something you didn't buy enough of to come in. if one thing is missing you will go right back to smoking, nobody wants that.

    Mods and Why
    Mods are usually over looked or not even known to noobies of the ecig world.
    these devices can be anywhere from 3.7v to 8.4v.
    the point is that some people need one of two things, longer battery life with less cost and/or an aggressive throat hit.
    as a newbie i wouldn't advise a mod above 3.7v that doesn't have the option to go as low as 4.2v
    if it is not a variable voltage you are stuck on that till you get something lower if you don't like it.
    i say 4.2v because any 3.7v battery charges UP TO 4.2v. most people love vaping that initial fresh charged battery. voltage drops after usage to as low as 2.9v

    Mods will use batteries like these

    these are all 3.7v batteries with a much longer charge life vs a kit ecig.
    you can find almost all of these batteries from US suppliers for $5 each.
    a 3.7v mod using the largest battery (18650) can last you 4+ days @ $8 for the battery.

    some mods can last up to 4+ days before needing to be recharged.

    I'm not going to go into mods or pictures of mods. you can do that on your own, also watch youtube videos about the mods before thinking its large.
    the standard ones people use are
    silver bullet
    mako
    tekk mod (prone to cracking at the top unless you find someone that knows how to make them correctly)
    some sort of wetbox (check reviews of these missys wetbox fails quite often due to her under rated buttons and cost $15 to fix)
    (there are a crazy amount of mods out there, this is just a small list of the most talked about)

    Abbreviations

    General

    Noob - Beginner
    OP - Original Post(er)
    Analog - Regular Cigarette
    Mod - Homemade device or a Moderator.
    Pull - The act of sucking on the mouthpiece to pull the vapor into your mouth
    TH - Throat Hit (The tingling sensation in the back of your throat)
    Vapor - the "smoke" emitted from an e-cigarette
    Vape, Vaping - The use of an e-cigarette (similar to the term "smoking" when referring to an analog)
    Topping off - Adding drops of e-liquid to your current cartridge.
    Dripping - Vaping by adding a few drops of e-liquid directly on the atomizer instead of using a cartridge.
    Dipping - Sticking the bridge of the atomizer in e-liquid.

    E-Cigarette

    E-cig or E-cigarette - Electronic Cigarette
    PV - Personal Vaporizer
    Atty - Atomizer
    Cart - Cartridge
    Bat - Battery
    Filler - The fiber found inside your cartridge that holds your e-liquid
    PCC - Personal Charging Case
    SD - ScrewDriver
    JS - Janty Stick
    PT - Passthrough or passthrough battery
    2-piece/Disposable - 2 part e-cigarette. The Battery and a "cartomizer".
    Cartomizer - An atomizer built into the cartridge, marketed as disposable (you throw it away when the e-liquid is used up).
    3-piece - 3 part e-cigarette. Battery, Atomizer, and Cartridge.
    Cutoff - Refers to how long the battery will activate the atomizer before shutting down (safety measure to protect the atomizer).

    E-Liquid

    E-juice, e-liquid, juice - the liquid nicotine that you fill your cartridges with.
    DIY - Do it yourself (homemade e-liquid mixture)
    PG - Propylene Glycol
    VG - Vegetable Glycerin(Glycerine = glycerin = vegetable glycerin(e) = glycerol)
    PEG - Polylethylene Glycol

    Suppliers

    VT - Vaportalk
    VG - Vaporgalaxy
    VB - Vaporbomb
    ENS - electronicstix
    JC - Johnson Creek
    PS - PureSmoker
    TW - Totally Wicked
    EST - E-smokeytreats
    JS - JantyStick
    SD - ScrewDriver
    GG - The GG!

    Miscellaneous

    FDA - Food and Drug Administration
    ECA - Electronic Cigarette Association
    NRT - Nicotine Replacement Therapy (patch, gum, e-cig)
    PH - Public Health
    BP - Big Pharmaceutical Companies
    BT - Big Tobacco Companies
    ALF - American Legacy Foundation
    'Anti's - Anti-smoking people who do not acknowledge that vaping is a viable alternative to smoking analogs.
    RYO - Roll your own (tobacco)

    Universal Forum Lingo

    AFAIK - As Far As I Know
    BTW - By The Way
    DOA - Dead On Arrival (didn't work from the moment I got it)
    FWIW- For What It's Worth
    FYI - For Your Information
    IDK - I Don't Know
    IIRC - If I Recall/Remember Correctly
    IMO or IMHO - In My Opinion or In My Humble Opinion (some mean 'H' to be Honest)
    IOW - In Other Words
    JK or JJ - Just Kidding or Just Joking
    JS - Just Saying
    OMG or OMFG - Oh My God and it's adult extension
    PITA - Pain In The ***
    PWN - Own or "dominate"
    ROTFLOL - Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud
    ROTFLMFAO - ^ Adult Extension of above
    SOL - (can't be helped or fixed)
    (SP?) - Used when unsure of the spelling of the previous word
    TIA - Thanks In Advance
    TMI - Too Much Information (too personal)
    TOS - Terms Of Service ("the rules")
    TROLL - A person that posts in a forum/thread with the sole intention of provoking an argument (can sometimes also imply a "spy")
    TY - Thank You
    WOOT - Exclamation, as in Hooray! (Sometimes: Want One Of Those)
    WTF - Same As below
    WTH - What/Where/Who The Hell
    YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (your experience may differ from mine)
  4. Like
    Jolly got a reaction from bahamasboy in A Number Of Questions.   
    1. Cartridges.

    A. How long does the average 501 cartridge on my eGo last? How many puffs, maybe? I've gotten into the groove of pulling like this: Press the button, pull softly for ~4-5 seconds, release the button, finish the pull, inhale, exhale. My use is sporadic. I'll take a few pulls a minute or 1 pull every 30 minutes. Given this, how long can I expect a single cartridge to last?

    - about 10 drops, 3 drops on an atomizer is bout 4-5 puffs. 3 into 10 = 3ish so 12 puffs "roughly".

    a. Is there a general consensus yet on how many pulls = 1 analog (of equal nic strength) or how many cartridges = 1 pack? This really isn't important to me. Just a curiosity thing.

    - you could draw up some mathematical bit of info but it wouldn't be conclusive with out blood samples.
    - most of what people would say is hear say and holds no merit to real science.
    - vape the mg you feel you need, i started with 18mg, went to 24 then 30. i'll do any of the 3 currently. as a general rule do not go above 24mg; Ever!

    B. How can I tell if a cartridge is empty enough that it will hurt my atomizer and I need to replace/refill?

    - the taste and vapor production will get lower

    C. Using the cartridge-refill method, depending on the answer to A, how many cartridges/refills can I expect to go through in a single day?
    a. Approximately how much e-liquid goes into 1 cartridge?

    - 8-10 drops. please for the love of all that is holy, don't refill cartridges! that is by far the worst experience i think all of us have had with ecigs. the mess, the time, and then its time to do it again. for sitting around drip, for on the go cartomizer it. and before you ask 40ish drops per cartomizer.

    D. What is the best method to reusing cartridges? Will my bottles of E-liquid come with droppers to help me fill them using the paper clip method, or will I need to buy a syringe? I really don't want to go the syringe method personally, but if it's a must, I can suck it up.

    - the best, is to not, reuse.

    E. Why do some claim that cartomizers are replacing atomizers/cartridges?

    - neither replaces either, atty for lounging, carto for out and about.

    F. Atomizers/Cartridges seem to have longevity compared to cartomizers. What is so bad about cartridges that most use the drip technique or cartomizers?

    - i only used attys at the start but now that i use a mod i only use cartos

    G. I've heard that you can buy a bag of the fluffy stuff inside the cartridge that soaks up the e-liquid from Walmart and you'd never have to worry about buying cartridges again. You just replace the fluffy stuff, refill, and vape away. What is the validity to this? Is this method safe? Is it effective?

    - you can, the blue u-foam for fish tanks is what most people move to. then after that they just direct drip and think to themselves "why did i wast all that time and energy filling those damn carts and cutting foam.

    H. Is cleaning the fluffy stuff inside the cartridge effective?

    -no

    2. Atomizers.
    A. While it was in my pocket, I accidentally had the button pressed down (I'm getting a cover soon (Yes, I know. I'm a noob. lol)). When I pulled it out, it was quite hot, but not so hot that it burned to the touch. How can I tell if I've damaged that atomizer? (No worries, I've got spares!)

    - when it doesn't work anymore. the only other thing that might happen is you burn the wick inside, if you haven't already removed it. DO NOT REMOVE THE BRIDGE, no matter what anyone says! and before you ask, removing the bridge is the best way to flood the battery with all the juice that should be in the atty. the wick on the other hand is crap and shouldn't even be part of the atty.

    B. What is the average life expectancy for an atomizer?

    - i had one last me 95+ days and then destroyed it (not by using it but trying to clean it), long story short don't clean your attys with vinegar or by boiling them. thats some serious over kill and doesn't help at all. let them soak in hot water for a few days and then rinse them a few times.

    C. How will I know when I need to clean/replace the atomizer?

    - i pretty much don't clean them, not even when i switch juices. my theory is that people put to much energy into thinking about cleaning and end up killing them because of all the extra measures they do. an atty is about 6 bucks, a cartomizer is around 1 buck. its not like you're buying them every day so if it last a week then who cares. one pack of smokes is 6 bucks and for most of us that would be one day of smoking.

    3. E-Liquid.

    A. Can someone point me in the direction of a detailed DIY guide? It seems to be the way to go for a sustainable and relatively cheap vaping experience. I'm guessing you get PG/VG and use that to dilute large quantities of extra strength nic flavored mixes to turn say a 120ml 36mg into a 240ml 18mg? I'm totally new to this, so this is just my impression on DIY.

    - there is a diy section on the forum. go there and ask, keep it more geared to something you want to try such as caramel apple or something nutty.

    4. Batteries.

    A. I currently have two 1000mah batteries for my eGo. How long can I expect these bad boys to survive? (Sidebar: I know nothing about modding, but these things last all day and into the night. I don't even need the second one since I just use the same battery all day, then charge it while I sleep, take it off the charger, and repeat. Couldn't imagine needing a mod for a longer lasting battery. The 1000mah is quite an amazing battery.)

    - a day maybe two, hell could last you a week if you don't vape but a few puffs a day.
    - mods are for people that either want higher voltage, something sexy or beastly, or to save money. an stock ego battery is in the $20 range, for 5 bucks i can get two batteries that last just as long as the mega ego battery. even at 12 bucks i can get two batteries that are 3x the life of the ego PER battery. after you are into this for a while, you will get a mod. when the day happens i'll be the guy saying; "see".

    5. The whole package.

    A. What is the correct way for me to store this at night after putting the battery on the charger?
    a. Should I separate the cartridge from the atomizer and replace the little white cap on the in-use cartridge and the empty cartridge back on the atomizer?
    b. Is it OK for the atomizer if I just left the in-use cartridge attached to it or will this cause damage overnight?

    -lay it on its side. there isn't a need to take it apart. if you have an auto battery you may want to take them apart and stand it battery threads down to drain any juice that got into the hole.
  5. Like
    Jolly got a reaction from Schizophretard in Cleaning With Ever Clear?   
    i soak mine in water for about a week, changing the water every morning and night.. sometimes mid day. using hot tap water.
    then run hot water direct threw them, blow them out threw both ends using lung power.
    let them dry behind my xbox while i play games or set them on the side of my computer that expels heat.

    i'm sure a week isn't needed, but i have a nice stock pile of cartos so..
    from doing all the other tricks out there i have found no difference in the vapor, taste, or life by doing any other methods.
    for attys i usually just don't clean them unless they have a very strong taste that will not come out.
  6. Like
    Jolly got a reaction from Uma in Limn Imr Batteries   
    you need a lipo charger.


    you can actually catch any cell on fire
    1) WAY over charged the cell and leaving it unattended in a cheapo charger.
    2) Combining good cells with junk cells in a high drain application
    3) Combining cells that have a very low charge with cells that have a very high charge, in a high drain application
    4) Short circuiting the cell.
    5) discharge them very quickly
    if you see someone that has caught fire or exploded a cell, assume that they have done one of the above.

    not to say that the protected circut couldn't have gone bad.. but when buying a mod you should also be very aware at what details your charger has behind it. what your batteries are charged to when taken off the charger. among other things.

    high drain is a good idea for that "in case" situation. we are in no way doing high drain on a tiny atty/carto though.

    i have no idea where these people come up with such wild ideas but it gets a tad annoying to hear.
    years and years of flashlight modding to put out intense beams of light that can burn plastic, set fire to wood, blinding people from far distances have been done with good old li-ion. stacking 18650 batteries and draining them in a matter of 3 mins from full charge, yet i'm to believe that a rinky-dink atty/carto that takes 1-2 days to drain a single or stacked 14500 is going to need a high drain battery? please!

    are they needed, no. is the chemical make up safer, yes.

    sorry about the rant but just had to get that out. been reading to many threads about li-ion issues and the wild crap people say.
  7. Like
    Jolly got a reaction from ripple in Noobie Guide To Vaping   
    (Please only post questions OR additional noobie info in here to keep this thread clean. ie: no thank you, good post, etc, posts)

    This is to help you play catch up on what the veterans know.

    Basic ecig Parts

    A.) Cartridge - holds the ejuice and is also a mouth piece. this part can be replaced with a drip tip and is what most do
    B.) Atomizer - has an element that heats up the ejuice and as you pull air threw it vapor is produced.
    * sub B section - you can also use cartomizers, they are atomizers with filler to hold juice and are a tad shorter in size.
    C.) battery - these will be 3.7v Lithium Ion batteries, they supply the power to the atomizer. they come in auto (activated by suction) or manual (activated by button)

    Common Ecigs


    What's the best ecig
    This is more dependent on how you vape and your needs for vapor, throat/lung hit, battery life needs and other factors.
    Most people will advise the ego/tornado/riva as they all have a nice battery life and are built good (ego being the favorite of the three)
    this is the ego mega and regular batteries with manual buttons


    Ecig Model Numbers
    These are based on the atomizer they use
    when one says 510 kit, they generally are referring to the cigarette shaped ecig. like the first picture of this post.

    Why we tell you not to get cigarette shaped ecigs
    A cigarette shaped battery runs $12 for a normal manual 510

    9hrs at $20 (ego battery) 540mins
    45mins (510 kit battery) 540 ÷ 45 = 12
    12 (batteries) x $12 = $144

    so for mAh (Milliamp hours), it is a lot less expensive to buy a larger battery.
    this will also keep you from having to buy more batteries. explained after next set of math.

    510 kit batteries needed for 9hrs
    9hrs (540mins) ÷ (45min run time + 2hr charge time = 165mins) = 3.272727273 batteries needed to run 9hrs on 510 kit
    3 x $12 = $36 - 1 ego battery = $20 = $16 saved. that is initial cost only!!

    45min x 2 is what you have ready to go after your first needs charged (90mins).
    your first battery is going to take 2hrs to charge so by the time you run out the other two the first is done charging.
    so just to keep going you would need at bare minimum you want two 510 chargers, this means more $$.
    why you ask? at night when you don't have a single battery to use, you will only be able to charge 1 while you sleep. it would be more ideal to have 3 or one of the larger chargers that do more than one and have no less than 10 batteries ready to go.
    on top of this when you go out you will have a pocket full of batteries, making this not a very portable device to bring with you.

    other than that you have to recharge more often and the more you charge the more you replace. batteries have an # of recharges before they start failing to keep their charge. now you may say by logic that you are only charging once on those small batteries in that 9hr time, so there isn't an issue on life, BUT, the smaller the battery the less times you can charge it before the failing starts. also consider that you have 3 batteries that will fail

    First Order
    When you get an ecig make sure that you have spares of everything.
    the atomizers, cartomizers, batteries, and juice are all going to need purchased at some point again.
    Your first cart should consist of NO LESS than, 5 atomizers, 2 packs of cartomizers (5 in a pack), your kit, 2 extra batteries (i would advise mega batteries), 1 extra charger, and a nice amount of juice.
    the last thing you want is to have to wait on something you didn't buy enough of to come in. if one thing is missing you will go right back to smoking, nobody wants that.

    Mods and Why
    Mods are usually over looked or not even known to noobies of the ecig world.
    these devices can be anywhere from 3.7v to 8.4v.
    the point is that some people need one of two things, longer battery life with less cost and/or an aggressive throat hit.
    as a newbie i wouldn't advise a mod above 3.7v that doesn't have the option to go as low as 4.2v
    if it is not a variable voltage you are stuck on that till you get something lower if you don't like it.
    i say 4.2v because any 3.7v battery charges UP TO 4.2v. most people love vaping that initial fresh charged battery. voltage drops after usage to as low as 2.9v

    Mods will use batteries like these

    these are all 3.7v batteries with a much longer charge life vs a kit ecig.
    you can find almost all of these batteries from US suppliers for $5 each.
    a 3.7v mod using the largest battery (18650) can last you 4+ days @ $8 for the battery.

    some mods can last up to 4+ days before needing to be recharged.

    I'm not going to go into mods or pictures of mods. you can do that on your own, also watch youtube videos about the mods before thinking its large.
    the standard ones people use are
    silver bullet
    mako
    tekk mod (prone to cracking at the top unless you find someone that knows how to make them correctly)
    some sort of wetbox (check reviews of these missys wetbox fails quite often due to her under rated buttons and cost $15 to fix)
    (there are a crazy amount of mods out there, this is just a small list of the most talked about)

    Abbreviations

    General

    Noob - Beginner
    OP - Original Post(er)
    Analog - Regular Cigarette
    Mod - Homemade device or a Moderator.
    Pull - The act of sucking on the mouthpiece to pull the vapor into your mouth
    TH - Throat Hit (The tingling sensation in the back of your throat)
    Vapor - the "smoke" emitted from an e-cigarette
    Vape, Vaping - The use of an e-cigarette (similar to the term "smoking" when referring to an analog)
    Topping off - Adding drops of e-liquid to your current cartridge.
    Dripping - Vaping by adding a few drops of e-liquid directly on the atomizer instead of using a cartridge.
    Dipping - Sticking the bridge of the atomizer in e-liquid.

    E-Cigarette

    E-cig or E-cigarette - Electronic Cigarette
    PV - Personal Vaporizer
    Atty - Atomizer
    Cart - Cartridge
    Bat - Battery
    Filler - The fiber found inside your cartridge that holds your e-liquid
    PCC - Personal Charging Case
    SD - ScrewDriver
    JS - Janty Stick
    PT - Passthrough or passthrough battery
    2-piece/Disposable - 2 part e-cigarette. The Battery and a "cartomizer".
    Cartomizer - An atomizer built into the cartridge, marketed as disposable (you throw it away when the e-liquid is used up).
    3-piece - 3 part e-cigarette. Battery, Atomizer, and Cartridge.
    Cutoff - Refers to how long the battery will activate the atomizer before shutting down (safety measure to protect the atomizer).

    E-Liquid

    E-juice, e-liquid, juice - the liquid nicotine that you fill your cartridges with.
    DIY - Do it yourself (homemade e-liquid mixture)
    PG - Propylene Glycol
    VG - Vegetable Glycerin(Glycerine = glycerin = vegetable glycerin(e) = glycerol)
    PEG - Polylethylene Glycol

    Suppliers

    VT - Vaportalk
    VG - Vaporgalaxy
    VB - Vaporbomb
    ENS - electronicstix
    JC - Johnson Creek
    PS - PureSmoker
    TW - Totally Wicked
    EST - E-smokeytreats
    JS - JantyStick
    SD - ScrewDriver
    GG - The GG!

    Miscellaneous

    FDA - Food and Drug Administration
    ECA - Electronic Cigarette Association
    NRT - Nicotine Replacement Therapy (patch, gum, e-cig)
    PH - Public Health
    BP - Big Pharmaceutical Companies
    BT - Big Tobacco Companies
    ALF - American Legacy Foundation
    'Anti's - Anti-smoking people who do not acknowledge that vaping is a viable alternative to smoking analogs.
    RYO - Roll your own (tobacco)

    Universal Forum Lingo

    AFAIK - As Far As I Know
    BTW - By The Way
    DOA - Dead On Arrival (didn't work from the moment I got it)
    FWIW- For What It's Worth
    FYI - For Your Information
    IDK - I Don't Know
    IIRC - If I Recall/Remember Correctly
    IMO or IMHO - In My Opinion or In My Humble Opinion (some mean 'H' to be Honest)
    IOW - In Other Words
    JK or JJ - Just Kidding or Just Joking
    JS - Just Saying
    OMG or OMFG - Oh My God and it's adult extension
    PITA - Pain In The ***
    PWN - Own or "dominate"
    ROTFLOL - Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud
    ROTFLMFAO - ^ Adult Extension of above
    SOL - (can't be helped or fixed)
    (SP?) - Used when unsure of the spelling of the previous word
    TIA - Thanks In Advance
    TMI - Too Much Information (too personal)
    TOS - Terms Of Service ("the rules")
    TROLL - A person that posts in a forum/thread with the sole intention of provoking an argument (can sometimes also imply a "spy")
    TY - Thank You
    WOOT - Exclamation, as in Hooray! (Sometimes: Want One Of Those)
    WTF - Same As below
    WTH - What/Where/Who The Hell
    YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (your experience may differ from mine)
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    Jolly got a reaction from kitsune in A Number Of Questions.   
    1. Cartridges.

    A. How long does the average 501 cartridge on my eGo last? How many puffs, maybe? I've gotten into the groove of pulling like this: Press the button, pull softly for ~4-5 seconds, release the button, finish the pull, inhale, exhale. My use is sporadic. I'll take a few pulls a minute or 1 pull every 30 minutes. Given this, how long can I expect a single cartridge to last?

    - about 10 drops, 3 drops on an atomizer is bout 4-5 puffs. 3 into 10 = 3ish so 12 puffs "roughly".

    a. Is there a general consensus yet on how many pulls = 1 analog (of equal nic strength) or how many cartridges = 1 pack? This really isn't important to me. Just a curiosity thing.

    - you could draw up some mathematical bit of info but it wouldn't be conclusive with out blood samples.
    - most of what people would say is hear say and holds no merit to real science.
    - vape the mg you feel you need, i started with 18mg, went to 24 then 30. i'll do any of the 3 currently. as a general rule do not go above 24mg; Ever!

    B. How can I tell if a cartridge is empty enough that it will hurt my atomizer and I need to replace/refill?

    - the taste and vapor production will get lower

    C. Using the cartridge-refill method, depending on the answer to A, how many cartridges/refills can I expect to go through in a single day?
    a. Approximately how much e-liquid goes into 1 cartridge?

    - 8-10 drops. please for the love of all that is holy, don't refill cartridges! that is by far the worst experience i think all of us have had with ecigs. the mess, the time, and then its time to do it again. for sitting around drip, for on the go cartomizer it. and before you ask 40ish drops per cartomizer.

    D. What is the best method to reusing cartridges? Will my bottles of E-liquid come with droppers to help me fill them using the paper clip method, or will I need to buy a syringe? I really don't want to go the syringe method personally, but if it's a must, I can suck it up.

    - the best, is to not, reuse.

    E. Why do some claim that cartomizers are replacing atomizers/cartridges?

    - neither replaces either, atty for lounging, carto for out and about.

    F. Atomizers/Cartridges seem to have longevity compared to cartomizers. What is so bad about cartridges that most use the drip technique or cartomizers?

    - i only used attys at the start but now that i use a mod i only use cartos

    G. I've heard that you can buy a bag of the fluffy stuff inside the cartridge that soaks up the e-liquid from Walmart and you'd never have to worry about buying cartridges again. You just replace the fluffy stuff, refill, and vape away. What is the validity to this? Is this method safe? Is it effective?

    - you can, the blue u-foam for fish tanks is what most people move to. then after that they just direct drip and think to themselves "why did i wast all that time and energy filling those damn carts and cutting foam.

    H. Is cleaning the fluffy stuff inside the cartridge effective?

    -no

    2. Atomizers.
    A. While it was in my pocket, I accidentally had the button pressed down (I'm getting a cover soon (Yes, I know. I'm a noob. lol)). When I pulled it out, it was quite hot, but not so hot that it burned to the touch. How can I tell if I've damaged that atomizer? (No worries, I've got spares!)

    - when it doesn't work anymore. the only other thing that might happen is you burn the wick inside, if you haven't already removed it. DO NOT REMOVE THE BRIDGE, no matter what anyone says! and before you ask, removing the bridge is the best way to flood the battery with all the juice that should be in the atty. the wick on the other hand is crap and shouldn't even be part of the atty.

    B. What is the average life expectancy for an atomizer?

    - i had one last me 95+ days and then destroyed it (not by using it but trying to clean it), long story short don't clean your attys with vinegar or by boiling them. thats some serious over kill and doesn't help at all. let them soak in hot water for a few days and then rinse them a few times.

    C. How will I know when I need to clean/replace the atomizer?

    - i pretty much don't clean them, not even when i switch juices. my theory is that people put to much energy into thinking about cleaning and end up killing them because of all the extra measures they do. an atty is about 6 bucks, a cartomizer is around 1 buck. its not like you're buying them every day so if it last a week then who cares. one pack of smokes is 6 bucks and for most of us that would be one day of smoking.

    3. E-Liquid.

    A. Can someone point me in the direction of a detailed DIY guide? It seems to be the way to go for a sustainable and relatively cheap vaping experience. I'm guessing you get PG/VG and use that to dilute large quantities of extra strength nic flavored mixes to turn say a 120ml 36mg into a 240ml 18mg? I'm totally new to this, so this is just my impression on DIY.

    - there is a diy section on the forum. go there and ask, keep it more geared to something you want to try such as caramel apple or something nutty.

    4. Batteries.

    A. I currently have two 1000mah batteries for my eGo. How long can I expect these bad boys to survive? (Sidebar: I know nothing about modding, but these things last all day and into the night. I don't even need the second one since I just use the same battery all day, then charge it while I sleep, take it off the charger, and repeat. Couldn't imagine needing a mod for a longer lasting battery. The 1000mah is quite an amazing battery.)

    - a day maybe two, hell could last you a week if you don't vape but a few puffs a day.
    - mods are for people that either want higher voltage, something sexy or beastly, or to save money. an stock ego battery is in the $20 range, for 5 bucks i can get two batteries that last just as long as the mega ego battery. even at 12 bucks i can get two batteries that are 3x the life of the ego PER battery. after you are into this for a while, you will get a mod. when the day happens i'll be the guy saying; "see".

    5. The whole package.

    A. What is the correct way for me to store this at night after putting the battery on the charger?
    a. Should I separate the cartridge from the atomizer and replace the little white cap on the in-use cartridge and the empty cartridge back on the atomizer?
    b. Is it OK for the atomizer if I just left the in-use cartridge attached to it or will this cause damage overnight?

    -lay it on its side. there isn't a need to take it apart. if you have an auto battery you may want to take them apart and stand it battery threads down to drain any juice that got into the hole.
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    Jolly got a reaction from MaryAnn in Children Say Funny Things   
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  10. Like
    Jolly got a reaction from PsychoMaster in Noobie Guide To Vaping   
    (Please only post questions OR additional noobie info in here to keep this thread clean. ie: no thank you, good post, etc, posts)

    This is to help you play catch up on what the veterans know.

    Basic ecig Parts

    A.) Cartridge - holds the ejuice and is also a mouth piece. this part can be replaced with a drip tip and is what most do
    B.) Atomizer - has an element that heats up the ejuice and as you pull air threw it vapor is produced.
    * sub B section - you can also use cartomizers, they are atomizers with filler to hold juice and are a tad shorter in size.
    C.) battery - these will be 3.7v Lithium Ion batteries, they supply the power to the atomizer. they come in auto (activated by suction) or manual (activated by button)

    Common Ecigs


    What's the best ecig
    This is more dependent on how you vape and your needs for vapor, throat/lung hit, battery life needs and other factors.
    Most people will advise the ego/tornado/riva as they all have a nice battery life and are built good (ego being the favorite of the three)
    this is the ego mega and regular batteries with manual buttons


    Ecig Model Numbers
    These are based on the atomizer they use
    when one says 510 kit, they generally are referring to the cigarette shaped ecig. like the first picture of this post.

    Why we tell you not to get cigarette shaped ecigs
    A cigarette shaped battery runs $12 for a normal manual 510

    9hrs at $20 (ego battery) 540mins
    45mins (510 kit battery) 540 ÷ 45 = 12
    12 (batteries) x $12 = $144

    so for mAh (Milliamp hours), it is a lot less expensive to buy a larger battery.
    this will also keep you from having to buy more batteries. explained after next set of math.

    510 kit batteries needed for 9hrs
    9hrs (540mins) ÷ (45min run time + 2hr charge time = 165mins) = 3.272727273 batteries needed to run 9hrs on 510 kit
    3 x $12 = $36 - 1 ego battery = $20 = $16 saved. that is initial cost only!!

    45min x 2 is what you have ready to go after your first needs charged (90mins).
    your first battery is going to take 2hrs to charge so by the time you run out the other two the first is done charging.
    so just to keep going you would need at bare minimum you want two 510 chargers, this means more $$.
    why you ask? at night when you don't have a single battery to use, you will only be able to charge 1 while you sleep. it would be more ideal to have 3 or one of the larger chargers that do more than one and have no less than 10 batteries ready to go.
    on top of this when you go out you will have a pocket full of batteries, making this not a very portable device to bring with you.

    other than that you have to recharge more often and the more you charge the more you replace. batteries have an # of recharges before they start failing to keep their charge. now you may say by logic that you are only charging once on those small batteries in that 9hr time, so there isn't an issue on life, BUT, the smaller the battery the less times you can charge it before the failing starts. also consider that you have 3 batteries that will fail

    First Order
    When you get an ecig make sure that you have spares of everything.
    the atomizers, cartomizers, batteries, and juice are all going to need purchased at some point again.
    Your first cart should consist of NO LESS than, 5 atomizers, 2 packs of cartomizers (5 in a pack), your kit, 2 extra batteries (i would advise mega batteries), 1 extra charger, and a nice amount of juice.
    the last thing you want is to have to wait on something you didn't buy enough of to come in. if one thing is missing you will go right back to smoking, nobody wants that.

    Mods and Why
    Mods are usually over looked or not even known to noobies of the ecig world.
    these devices can be anywhere from 3.7v to 8.4v.
    the point is that some people need one of two things, longer battery life with less cost and/or an aggressive throat hit.
    as a newbie i wouldn't advise a mod above 3.7v that doesn't have the option to go as low as 4.2v
    if it is not a variable voltage you are stuck on that till you get something lower if you don't like it.
    i say 4.2v because any 3.7v battery charges UP TO 4.2v. most people love vaping that initial fresh charged battery. voltage drops after usage to as low as 2.9v

    Mods will use batteries like these

    these are all 3.7v batteries with a much longer charge life vs a kit ecig.
    you can find almost all of these batteries from US suppliers for $5 each.
    a 3.7v mod using the largest battery (18650) can last you 4+ days @ $8 for the battery.

    some mods can last up to 4+ days before needing to be recharged.

    I'm not going to go into mods or pictures of mods. you can do that on your own, also watch youtube videos about the mods before thinking its large.
    the standard ones people use are
    silver bullet
    mako
    tekk mod (prone to cracking at the top unless you find someone that knows how to make them correctly)
    some sort of wetbox (check reviews of these missys wetbox fails quite often due to her under rated buttons and cost $15 to fix)
    (there are a crazy amount of mods out there, this is just a small list of the most talked about)

    Abbreviations

    General

    Noob - Beginner
    OP - Original Post(er)
    Analog - Regular Cigarette
    Mod - Homemade device or a Moderator.
    Pull - The act of sucking on the mouthpiece to pull the vapor into your mouth
    TH - Throat Hit (The tingling sensation in the back of your throat)
    Vapor - the "smoke" emitted from an e-cigarette
    Vape, Vaping - The use of an e-cigarette (similar to the term "smoking" when referring to an analog)
    Topping off - Adding drops of e-liquid to your current cartridge.
    Dripping - Vaping by adding a few drops of e-liquid directly on the atomizer instead of using a cartridge.
    Dipping - Sticking the bridge of the atomizer in e-liquid.

    E-Cigarette

    E-cig or E-cigarette - Electronic Cigarette
    PV - Personal Vaporizer
    Atty - Atomizer
    Cart - Cartridge
    Bat - Battery
    Filler - The fiber found inside your cartridge that holds your e-liquid
    PCC - Personal Charging Case
    SD - ScrewDriver
    JS - Janty Stick
    PT - Passthrough or passthrough battery
    2-piece/Disposable - 2 part e-cigarette. The Battery and a "cartomizer".
    Cartomizer - An atomizer built into the cartridge, marketed as disposable (you throw it away when the e-liquid is used up).
    3-piece - 3 part e-cigarette. Battery, Atomizer, and Cartridge.
    Cutoff - Refers to how long the battery will activate the atomizer before shutting down (safety measure to protect the atomizer).

    E-Liquid

    E-juice, e-liquid, juice - the liquid nicotine that you fill your cartridges with.
    DIY - Do it yourself (homemade e-liquid mixture)
    PG - Propylene Glycol
    VG - Vegetable Glycerin(Glycerine = glycerin = vegetable glycerin(e) = glycerol)
    PEG - Polylethylene Glycol

    Suppliers

    VT - Vaportalk
    VG - Vaporgalaxy
    VB - Vaporbomb
    ENS - electronicstix
    JC - Johnson Creek
    PS - PureSmoker
    TW - Totally Wicked
    EST - E-smokeytreats
    JS - JantyStick
    SD - ScrewDriver
    GG - The GG!

    Miscellaneous

    FDA - Food and Drug Administration
    ECA - Electronic Cigarette Association
    NRT - Nicotine Replacement Therapy (patch, gum, e-cig)
    PH - Public Health
    BP - Big Pharmaceutical Companies
    BT - Big Tobacco Companies
    ALF - American Legacy Foundation
    'Anti's - Anti-smoking people who do not acknowledge that vaping is a viable alternative to smoking analogs.
    RYO - Roll your own (tobacco)

    Universal Forum Lingo

    AFAIK - As Far As I Know
    BTW - By The Way
    DOA - Dead On Arrival (didn't work from the moment I got it)
    FWIW- For What It's Worth
    FYI - For Your Information
    IDK - I Don't Know
    IIRC - If I Recall/Remember Correctly
    IMO or IMHO - In My Opinion or In My Humble Opinion (some mean 'H' to be Honest)
    IOW - In Other Words
    JK or JJ - Just Kidding or Just Joking
    JS - Just Saying
    OMG or OMFG - Oh My God and it's adult extension
    PITA - Pain In The ***
    PWN - Own or "dominate"
    ROTFLOL - Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud
    ROTFLMFAO - ^ Adult Extension of above
    SOL - (can't be helped or fixed)
    (SP?) - Used when unsure of the spelling of the previous word
    TIA - Thanks In Advance
    TMI - Too Much Information (too personal)
    TOS - Terms Of Service ("the rules")
    TROLL - A person that posts in a forum/thread with the sole intention of provoking an argument (can sometimes also imply a "spy")
    TY - Thank You
    WOOT - Exclamation, as in Hooray! (Sometimes: Want One Of Those)
    WTF - Same As below
    WTH - What/Where/Who The Hell
    YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (your experience may differ from mine)
  11. Like
    Jolly got a reaction from maconulaff in Noobie Guide To Vaping   
    (Please only post questions OR additional noobie info in here to keep this thread clean. ie: no thank you, good post, etc, posts)

    This is to help you play catch up on what the veterans know.

    Basic ecig Parts

    A.) Cartridge - holds the ejuice and is also a mouth piece. this part can be replaced with a drip tip and is what most do
    B.) Atomizer - has an element that heats up the ejuice and as you pull air threw it vapor is produced.
    * sub B section - you can also use cartomizers, they are atomizers with filler to hold juice and are a tad shorter in size.
    C.) battery - these will be 3.7v Lithium Ion batteries, they supply the power to the atomizer. they come in auto (activated by suction) or manual (activated by button)

    Common Ecigs


    What's the best ecig
    This is more dependent on how you vape and your needs for vapor, throat/lung hit, battery life needs and other factors.
    Most people will advise the ego/tornado/riva as they all have a nice battery life and are built good (ego being the favorite of the three)
    this is the ego mega and regular batteries with manual buttons


    Ecig Model Numbers
    These are based on the atomizer they use
    when one says 510 kit, they generally are referring to the cigarette shaped ecig. like the first picture of this post.

    Why we tell you not to get cigarette shaped ecigs
    A cigarette shaped battery runs $12 for a normal manual 510

    9hrs at $20 (ego battery) 540mins
    45mins (510 kit battery) 540 ÷ 45 = 12
    12 (batteries) x $12 = $144

    so for mAh (Milliamp hours), it is a lot less expensive to buy a larger battery.
    this will also keep you from having to buy more batteries. explained after next set of math.

    510 kit batteries needed for 9hrs
    9hrs (540mins) ÷ (45min run time + 2hr charge time = 165mins) = 3.272727273 batteries needed to run 9hrs on 510 kit
    3 x $12 = $36 - 1 ego battery = $20 = $16 saved. that is initial cost only!!

    45min x 2 is what you have ready to go after your first needs charged (90mins).
    your first battery is going to take 2hrs to charge so by the time you run out the other two the first is done charging.
    so just to keep going you would need at bare minimum you want two 510 chargers, this means more $$.
    why you ask? at night when you don't have a single battery to use, you will only be able to charge 1 while you sleep. it would be more ideal to have 3 or one of the larger chargers that do more than one and have no less than 10 batteries ready to go.
    on top of this when you go out you will have a pocket full of batteries, making this not a very portable device to bring with you.

    other than that you have to recharge more often and the more you charge the more you replace. batteries have an # of recharges before they start failing to keep their charge. now you may say by logic that you are only charging once on those small batteries in that 9hr time, so there isn't an issue on life, BUT, the smaller the battery the less times you can charge it before the failing starts. also consider that you have 3 batteries that will fail

    First Order
    When you get an ecig make sure that you have spares of everything.
    the atomizers, cartomizers, batteries, and juice are all going to need purchased at some point again.
    Your first cart should consist of NO LESS than, 5 atomizers, 2 packs of cartomizers (5 in a pack), your kit, 2 extra batteries (i would advise mega batteries), 1 extra charger, and a nice amount of juice.
    the last thing you want is to have to wait on something you didn't buy enough of to come in. if one thing is missing you will go right back to smoking, nobody wants that.

    Mods and Why
    Mods are usually over looked or not even known to noobies of the ecig world.
    these devices can be anywhere from 3.7v to 8.4v.
    the point is that some people need one of two things, longer battery life with less cost and/or an aggressive throat hit.
    as a newbie i wouldn't advise a mod above 3.7v that doesn't have the option to go as low as 4.2v
    if it is not a variable voltage you are stuck on that till you get something lower if you don't like it.
    i say 4.2v because any 3.7v battery charges UP TO 4.2v. most people love vaping that initial fresh charged battery. voltage drops after usage to as low as 2.9v

    Mods will use batteries like these

    these are all 3.7v batteries with a much longer charge life vs a kit ecig.
    you can find almost all of these batteries from US suppliers for $5 each.
    a 3.7v mod using the largest battery (18650) can last you 4+ days @ $8 for the battery.

    some mods can last up to 4+ days before needing to be recharged.

    I'm not going to go into mods or pictures of mods. you can do that on your own, also watch youtube videos about the mods before thinking its large.
    the standard ones people use are
    silver bullet
    mako
    tekk mod (prone to cracking at the top unless you find someone that knows how to make them correctly)
    some sort of wetbox (check reviews of these missys wetbox fails quite often due to her under rated buttons and cost $15 to fix)
    (there are a crazy amount of mods out there, this is just a small list of the most talked about)

    Abbreviations

    General

    Noob - Beginner
    OP - Original Post(er)
    Analog - Regular Cigarette
    Mod - Homemade device or a Moderator.
    Pull - The act of sucking on the mouthpiece to pull the vapor into your mouth
    TH - Throat Hit (The tingling sensation in the back of your throat)
    Vapor - the "smoke" emitted from an e-cigarette
    Vape, Vaping - The use of an e-cigarette (similar to the term "smoking" when referring to an analog)
    Topping off - Adding drops of e-liquid to your current cartridge.
    Dripping - Vaping by adding a few drops of e-liquid directly on the atomizer instead of using a cartridge.
    Dipping - Sticking the bridge of the atomizer in e-liquid.

    E-Cigarette

    E-cig or E-cigarette - Electronic Cigarette
    PV - Personal Vaporizer
    Atty - Atomizer
    Cart - Cartridge
    Bat - Battery
    Filler - The fiber found inside your cartridge that holds your e-liquid
    PCC - Personal Charging Case
    SD - ScrewDriver
    JS - Janty Stick
    PT - Passthrough or passthrough battery
    2-piece/Disposable - 2 part e-cigarette. The Battery and a "cartomizer".
    Cartomizer - An atomizer built into the cartridge, marketed as disposable (you throw it away when the e-liquid is used up).
    3-piece - 3 part e-cigarette. Battery, Atomizer, and Cartridge.
    Cutoff - Refers to how long the battery will activate the atomizer before shutting down (safety measure to protect the atomizer).

    E-Liquid

    E-juice, e-liquid, juice - the liquid nicotine that you fill your cartridges with.
    DIY - Do it yourself (homemade e-liquid mixture)
    PG - Propylene Glycol
    VG - Vegetable Glycerin(Glycerine = glycerin = vegetable glycerin(e) = glycerol)
    PEG - Polylethylene Glycol

    Suppliers

    VT - Vaportalk
    VG - Vaporgalaxy
    VB - Vaporbomb
    ENS - electronicstix
    JC - Johnson Creek
    PS - PureSmoker
    TW - Totally Wicked
    EST - E-smokeytreats
    JS - JantyStick
    SD - ScrewDriver
    GG - The GG!

    Miscellaneous

    FDA - Food and Drug Administration
    ECA - Electronic Cigarette Association
    NRT - Nicotine Replacement Therapy (patch, gum, e-cig)
    PH - Public Health
    BP - Big Pharmaceutical Companies
    BT - Big Tobacco Companies
    ALF - American Legacy Foundation
    'Anti's - Anti-smoking people who do not acknowledge that vaping is a viable alternative to smoking analogs.
    RYO - Roll your own (tobacco)

    Universal Forum Lingo

    AFAIK - As Far As I Know
    BTW - By The Way
    DOA - Dead On Arrival (didn't work from the moment I got it)
    FWIW- For What It's Worth
    FYI - For Your Information
    IDK - I Don't Know
    IIRC - If I Recall/Remember Correctly
    IMO or IMHO - In My Opinion or In My Humble Opinion (some mean 'H' to be Honest)
    IOW - In Other Words
    JK or JJ - Just Kidding or Just Joking
    JS - Just Saying
    OMG or OMFG - Oh My God and it's adult extension
    PITA - Pain In The ***
    PWN - Own or "dominate"
    ROTFLOL - Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud
    ROTFLMFAO - ^ Adult Extension of above
    SOL - (can't be helped or fixed)
    (SP?) - Used when unsure of the spelling of the previous word
    TIA - Thanks In Advance
    TMI - Too Much Information (too personal)
    TOS - Terms Of Service ("the rules")
    TROLL - A person that posts in a forum/thread with the sole intention of provoking an argument (can sometimes also imply a "spy")
    TY - Thank You
    WOOT - Exclamation, as in Hooray! (Sometimes: Want One Of Those)
    WTF - Same As below
    WTH - What/Where/Who The Hell
    YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (your experience may differ from mine)
  12. Like
    Jolly got a reaction from MaryAnn in Noobie Guide To Vaping   
    (Please only post questions OR additional noobie info in here to keep this thread clean. ie: no thank you, good post, etc, posts)

    This is to help you play catch up on what the veterans know.

    Basic ecig Parts

    A.) Cartridge - holds the ejuice and is also a mouth piece. this part can be replaced with a drip tip and is what most do
    B.) Atomizer - has an element that heats up the ejuice and as you pull air threw it vapor is produced.
    * sub B section - you can also use cartomizers, they are atomizers with filler to hold juice and are a tad shorter in size.
    C.) battery - these will be 3.7v Lithium Ion batteries, they supply the power to the atomizer. they come in auto (activated by suction) or manual (activated by button)

    Common Ecigs


    What's the best ecig
    This is more dependent on how you vape and your needs for vapor, throat/lung hit, battery life needs and other factors.
    Most people will advise the ego/tornado/riva as they all have a nice battery life and are built good (ego being the favorite of the three)
    this is the ego mega and regular batteries with manual buttons


    Ecig Model Numbers
    These are based on the atomizer they use
    when one says 510 kit, they generally are referring to the cigarette shaped ecig. like the first picture of this post.

    Why we tell you not to get cigarette shaped ecigs
    A cigarette shaped battery runs $12 for a normal manual 510

    9hrs at $20 (ego battery) 540mins
    45mins (510 kit battery) 540 ÷ 45 = 12
    12 (batteries) x $12 = $144

    so for mAh (Milliamp hours), it is a lot less expensive to buy a larger battery.
    this will also keep you from having to buy more batteries. explained after next set of math.

    510 kit batteries needed for 9hrs
    9hrs (540mins) ÷ (45min run time + 2hr charge time = 165mins) = 3.272727273 batteries needed to run 9hrs on 510 kit
    3 x $12 = $36 - 1 ego battery = $20 = $16 saved. that is initial cost only!!

    45min x 2 is what you have ready to go after your first needs charged (90mins).
    your first battery is going to take 2hrs to charge so by the time you run out the other two the first is done charging.
    so just to keep going you would need at bare minimum you want two 510 chargers, this means more $$.
    why you ask? at night when you don't have a single battery to use, you will only be able to charge 1 while you sleep. it would be more ideal to have 3 or one of the larger chargers that do more than one and have no less than 10 batteries ready to go.
    on top of this when you go out you will have a pocket full of batteries, making this not a very portable device to bring with you.

    other than that you have to recharge more often and the more you charge the more you replace. batteries have an # of recharges before they start failing to keep their charge. now you may say by logic that you are only charging once on those small batteries in that 9hr time, so there isn't an issue on life, BUT, the smaller the battery the less times you can charge it before the failing starts. also consider that you have 3 batteries that will fail

    First Order
    When you get an ecig make sure that you have spares of everything.
    the atomizers, cartomizers, batteries, and juice are all going to need purchased at some point again.
    Your first cart should consist of NO LESS than, 5 atomizers, 2 packs of cartomizers (5 in a pack), your kit, 2 extra batteries (i would advise mega batteries), 1 extra charger, and a nice amount of juice.
    the last thing you want is to have to wait on something you didn't buy enough of to come in. if one thing is missing you will go right back to smoking, nobody wants that.

    Mods and Why
    Mods are usually over looked or not even known to noobies of the ecig world.
    these devices can be anywhere from 3.7v to 8.4v.
    the point is that some people need one of two things, longer battery life with less cost and/or an aggressive throat hit.
    as a newbie i wouldn't advise a mod above 3.7v that doesn't have the option to go as low as 4.2v
    if it is not a variable voltage you are stuck on that till you get something lower if you don't like it.
    i say 4.2v because any 3.7v battery charges UP TO 4.2v. most people love vaping that initial fresh charged battery. voltage drops after usage to as low as 2.9v

    Mods will use batteries like these

    these are all 3.7v batteries with a much longer charge life vs a kit ecig.
    you can find almost all of these batteries from US suppliers for $5 each.
    a 3.7v mod using the largest battery (18650) can last you 4+ days @ $8 for the battery.

    some mods can last up to 4+ days before needing to be recharged.

    I'm not going to go into mods or pictures of mods. you can do that on your own, also watch youtube videos about the mods before thinking its large.
    the standard ones people use are
    silver bullet
    mako
    tekk mod (prone to cracking at the top unless you find someone that knows how to make them correctly)
    some sort of wetbox (check reviews of these missys wetbox fails quite often due to her under rated buttons and cost $15 to fix)
    (there are a crazy amount of mods out there, this is just a small list of the most talked about)

    Abbreviations

    General

    Noob - Beginner
    OP - Original Post(er)
    Analog - Regular Cigarette
    Mod - Homemade device or a Moderator.
    Pull - The act of sucking on the mouthpiece to pull the vapor into your mouth
    TH - Throat Hit (The tingling sensation in the back of your throat)
    Vapor - the "smoke" emitted from an e-cigarette
    Vape, Vaping - The use of an e-cigarette (similar to the term "smoking" when referring to an analog)
    Topping off - Adding drops of e-liquid to your current cartridge.
    Dripping - Vaping by adding a few drops of e-liquid directly on the atomizer instead of using a cartridge.
    Dipping - Sticking the bridge of the atomizer in e-liquid.

    E-Cigarette

    E-cig or E-cigarette - Electronic Cigarette
    PV - Personal Vaporizer
    Atty - Atomizer
    Cart - Cartridge
    Bat - Battery
    Filler - The fiber found inside your cartridge that holds your e-liquid
    PCC - Personal Charging Case
    SD - ScrewDriver
    JS - Janty Stick
    PT - Passthrough or passthrough battery
    2-piece/Disposable - 2 part e-cigarette. The Battery and a "cartomizer".
    Cartomizer - An atomizer built into the cartridge, marketed as disposable (you throw it away when the e-liquid is used up).
    3-piece - 3 part e-cigarette. Battery, Atomizer, and Cartridge.
    Cutoff - Refers to how long the battery will activate the atomizer before shutting down (safety measure to protect the atomizer).

    E-Liquid

    E-juice, e-liquid, juice - the liquid nicotine that you fill your cartridges with.
    DIY - Do it yourself (homemade e-liquid mixture)
    PG - Propylene Glycol
    VG - Vegetable Glycerin(Glycerine = glycerin = vegetable glycerin(e) = glycerol)
    PEG - Polylethylene Glycol

    Suppliers

    VT - Vaportalk
    VG - Vaporgalaxy
    VB - Vaporbomb
    ENS - electronicstix
    JC - Johnson Creek
    PS - PureSmoker
    TW - Totally Wicked
    EST - E-smokeytreats
    JS - JantyStick
    SD - ScrewDriver
    GG - The GG!

    Miscellaneous

    FDA - Food and Drug Administration
    ECA - Electronic Cigarette Association
    NRT - Nicotine Replacement Therapy (patch, gum, e-cig)
    PH - Public Health
    BP - Big Pharmaceutical Companies
    BT - Big Tobacco Companies
    ALF - American Legacy Foundation
    'Anti's - Anti-smoking people who do not acknowledge that vaping is a viable alternative to smoking analogs.
    RYO - Roll your own (tobacco)

    Universal Forum Lingo

    AFAIK - As Far As I Know
    BTW - By The Way
    DOA - Dead On Arrival (didn't work from the moment I got it)
    FWIW- For What It's Worth
    FYI - For Your Information
    IDK - I Don't Know
    IIRC - If I Recall/Remember Correctly
    IMO or IMHO - In My Opinion or In My Humble Opinion (some mean 'H' to be Honest)
    IOW - In Other Words
    JK or JJ - Just Kidding or Just Joking
    JS - Just Saying
    OMG or OMFG - Oh My God and it's adult extension
    PITA - Pain In The ***
    PWN - Own or "dominate"
    ROTFLOL - Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud
    ROTFLMFAO - ^ Adult Extension of above
    SOL - (can't be helped or fixed)
    (SP?) - Used when unsure of the spelling of the previous word
    TIA - Thanks In Advance
    TMI - Too Much Information (too personal)
    TOS - Terms Of Service ("the rules")
    TROLL - A person that posts in a forum/thread with the sole intention of provoking an argument (can sometimes also imply a "spy")
    TY - Thank You
    WOOT - Exclamation, as in Hooray! (Sometimes: Want One Of Those)
    WTF - Same As below
    WTH - What/Where/Who The Hell
    YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (your experience may differ from mine)
  13. Like
    Jolly got a reaction from madhatter7750 in Noobie Guide To Vaping   
    (Please only post questions OR additional noobie info in here to keep this thread clean. ie: no thank you, good post, etc, posts)

    This is to help you play catch up on what the veterans know.

    Basic ecig Parts

    A.) Cartridge - holds the ejuice and is also a mouth piece. this part can be replaced with a drip tip and is what most do
    B.) Atomizer - has an element that heats up the ejuice and as you pull air threw it vapor is produced.
    * sub B section - you can also use cartomizers, they are atomizers with filler to hold juice and are a tad shorter in size.
    C.) battery - these will be 3.7v Lithium Ion batteries, they supply the power to the atomizer. they come in auto (activated by suction) or manual (activated by button)

    Common Ecigs


    What's the best ecig
    This is more dependent on how you vape and your needs for vapor, throat/lung hit, battery life needs and other factors.
    Most people will advise the ego/tornado/riva as they all have a nice battery life and are built good (ego being the favorite of the three)
    this is the ego mega and regular batteries with manual buttons


    Ecig Model Numbers
    These are based on the atomizer they use
    when one says 510 kit, they generally are referring to the cigarette shaped ecig. like the first picture of this post.

    Why we tell you not to get cigarette shaped ecigs
    A cigarette shaped battery runs $12 for a normal manual 510

    9hrs at $20 (ego battery) 540mins
    45mins (510 kit battery) 540 ÷ 45 = 12
    12 (batteries) x $12 = $144

    so for mAh (Milliamp hours), it is a lot less expensive to buy a larger battery.
    this will also keep you from having to buy more batteries. explained after next set of math.

    510 kit batteries needed for 9hrs
    9hrs (540mins) ÷ (45min run time + 2hr charge time = 165mins) = 3.272727273 batteries needed to run 9hrs on 510 kit
    3 x $12 = $36 - 1 ego battery = $20 = $16 saved. that is initial cost only!!

    45min x 2 is what you have ready to go after your first needs charged (90mins).
    your first battery is going to take 2hrs to charge so by the time you run out the other two the first is done charging.
    so just to keep going you would need at bare minimum you want two 510 chargers, this means more $$.
    why you ask? at night when you don't have a single battery to use, you will only be able to charge 1 while you sleep. it would be more ideal to have 3 or one of the larger chargers that do more than one and have no less than 10 batteries ready to go.
    on top of this when you go out you will have a pocket full of batteries, making this not a very portable device to bring with you.

    other than that you have to recharge more often and the more you charge the more you replace. batteries have an # of recharges before they start failing to keep their charge. now you may say by logic that you are only charging once on those small batteries in that 9hr time, so there isn't an issue on life, BUT, the smaller the battery the less times you can charge it before the failing starts. also consider that you have 3 batteries that will fail

    First Order
    When you get an ecig make sure that you have spares of everything.
    the atomizers, cartomizers, batteries, and juice are all going to need purchased at some point again.
    Your first cart should consist of NO LESS than, 5 atomizers, 2 packs of cartomizers (5 in a pack), your kit, 2 extra batteries (i would advise mega batteries), 1 extra charger, and a nice amount of juice.
    the last thing you want is to have to wait on something you didn't buy enough of to come in. if one thing is missing you will go right back to smoking, nobody wants that.

    Mods and Why
    Mods are usually over looked or not even known to noobies of the ecig world.
    these devices can be anywhere from 3.7v to 8.4v.
    the point is that some people need one of two things, longer battery life with less cost and/or an aggressive throat hit.
    as a newbie i wouldn't advise a mod above 3.7v that doesn't have the option to go as low as 4.2v
    if it is not a variable voltage you are stuck on that till you get something lower if you don't like it.
    i say 4.2v because any 3.7v battery charges UP TO 4.2v. most people love vaping that initial fresh charged battery. voltage drops after usage to as low as 2.9v

    Mods will use batteries like these

    these are all 3.7v batteries with a much longer charge life vs a kit ecig.
    you can find almost all of these batteries from US suppliers for $5 each.
    a 3.7v mod using the largest battery (18650) can last you 4+ days @ $8 for the battery.

    some mods can last up to 4+ days before needing to be recharged.

    I'm not going to go into mods or pictures of mods. you can do that on your own, also watch youtube videos about the mods before thinking its large.
    the standard ones people use are
    silver bullet
    mako
    tekk mod (prone to cracking at the top unless you find someone that knows how to make them correctly)
    some sort of wetbox (check reviews of these missys wetbox fails quite often due to her under rated buttons and cost $15 to fix)
    (there are a crazy amount of mods out there, this is just a small list of the most talked about)

    Abbreviations

    General

    Noob - Beginner
    OP - Original Post(er)
    Analog - Regular Cigarette
    Mod - Homemade device or a Moderator.
    Pull - The act of sucking on the mouthpiece to pull the vapor into your mouth
    TH - Throat Hit (The tingling sensation in the back of your throat)
    Vapor - the "smoke" emitted from an e-cigarette
    Vape, Vaping - The use of an e-cigarette (similar to the term "smoking" when referring to an analog)
    Topping off - Adding drops of e-liquid to your current cartridge.
    Dripping - Vaping by adding a few drops of e-liquid directly on the atomizer instead of using a cartridge.
    Dipping - Sticking the bridge of the atomizer in e-liquid.

    E-Cigarette

    E-cig or E-cigarette - Electronic Cigarette
    PV - Personal Vaporizer
    Atty - Atomizer
    Cart - Cartridge
    Bat - Battery
    Filler - The fiber found inside your cartridge that holds your e-liquid
    PCC - Personal Charging Case
    SD - ScrewDriver
    JS - Janty Stick
    PT - Passthrough or passthrough battery
    2-piece/Disposable - 2 part e-cigarette. The Battery and a "cartomizer".
    Cartomizer - An atomizer built into the cartridge, marketed as disposable (you throw it away when the e-liquid is used up).
    3-piece - 3 part e-cigarette. Battery, Atomizer, and Cartridge.
    Cutoff - Refers to how long the battery will activate the atomizer before shutting down (safety measure to protect the atomizer).

    E-Liquid

    E-juice, e-liquid, juice - the liquid nicotine that you fill your cartridges with.
    DIY - Do it yourself (homemade e-liquid mixture)
    PG - Propylene Glycol
    VG - Vegetable Glycerin(Glycerine = glycerin = vegetable glycerin(e) = glycerol)
    PEG - Polylethylene Glycol

    Suppliers

    VT - Vaportalk
    VG - Vaporgalaxy
    VB - Vaporbomb
    ENS - electronicstix
    JC - Johnson Creek
    PS - PureSmoker
    TW - Totally Wicked
    EST - E-smokeytreats
    JS - JantyStick
    SD - ScrewDriver
    GG - The GG!

    Miscellaneous

    FDA - Food and Drug Administration
    ECA - Electronic Cigarette Association
    NRT - Nicotine Replacement Therapy (patch, gum, e-cig)
    PH - Public Health
    BP - Big Pharmaceutical Companies
    BT - Big Tobacco Companies
    ALF - American Legacy Foundation
    'Anti's - Anti-smoking people who do not acknowledge that vaping is a viable alternative to smoking analogs.
    RYO - Roll your own (tobacco)

    Universal Forum Lingo

    AFAIK - As Far As I Know
    BTW - By The Way
    DOA - Dead On Arrival (didn't work from the moment I got it)
    FWIW- For What It's Worth
    FYI - For Your Information
    IDK - I Don't Know
    IIRC - If I Recall/Remember Correctly
    IMO or IMHO - In My Opinion or In My Humble Opinion (some mean 'H' to be Honest)
    IOW - In Other Words
    JK or JJ - Just Kidding or Just Joking
    JS - Just Saying
    OMG or OMFG - Oh My God and it's adult extension
    PITA - Pain In The ***
    PWN - Own or "dominate"
    ROTFLOL - Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud
    ROTFLMFAO - ^ Adult Extension of above
    SOL - (can't be helped or fixed)
    (SP?) - Used when unsure of the spelling of the previous word
    TIA - Thanks In Advance
    TMI - Too Much Information (too personal)
    TOS - Terms Of Service ("the rules")
    TROLL - A person that posts in a forum/thread with the sole intention of provoking an argument (can sometimes also imply a "spy")
    TY - Thank You
    WOOT - Exclamation, as in Hooray! (Sometimes: Want One Of Those)
    WTF - Same As below
    WTH - What/Where/Who The Hell
    YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (your experience may differ from mine)
  14. Like
    Jolly got a reaction from BEERCITYVAPRZ in Noobie Guide To Vaping   
    (Please only post questions OR additional noobie info in here to keep this thread clean. ie: no thank you, good post, etc, posts)

    This is to help you play catch up on what the veterans know.

    Basic ecig Parts

    A.) Cartridge - holds the ejuice and is also a mouth piece. this part can be replaced with a drip tip and is what most do
    B.) Atomizer - has an element that heats up the ejuice and as you pull air threw it vapor is produced.
    * sub B section - you can also use cartomizers, they are atomizers with filler to hold juice and are a tad shorter in size.
    C.) battery - these will be 3.7v Lithium Ion batteries, they supply the power to the atomizer. they come in auto (activated by suction) or manual (activated by button)

    Common Ecigs


    What's the best ecig
    This is more dependent on how you vape and your needs for vapor, throat/lung hit, battery life needs and other factors.
    Most people will advise the ego/tornado/riva as they all have a nice battery life and are built good (ego being the favorite of the three)
    this is the ego mega and regular batteries with manual buttons


    Ecig Model Numbers
    These are based on the atomizer they use
    when one says 510 kit, they generally are referring to the cigarette shaped ecig. like the first picture of this post.

    Why we tell you not to get cigarette shaped ecigs
    A cigarette shaped battery runs $12 for a normal manual 510

    9hrs at $20 (ego battery) 540mins
    45mins (510 kit battery) 540 ÷ 45 = 12
    12 (batteries) x $12 = $144

    so for mAh (Milliamp hours), it is a lot less expensive to buy a larger battery.
    this will also keep you from having to buy more batteries. explained after next set of math.

    510 kit batteries needed for 9hrs
    9hrs (540mins) ÷ (45min run time + 2hr charge time = 165mins) = 3.272727273 batteries needed to run 9hrs on 510 kit
    3 x $12 = $36 - 1 ego battery = $20 = $16 saved. that is initial cost only!!

    45min x 2 is what you have ready to go after your first needs charged (90mins).
    your first battery is going to take 2hrs to charge so by the time you run out the other two the first is done charging.
    so just to keep going you would need at bare minimum you want two 510 chargers, this means more $$.
    why you ask? at night when you don't have a single battery to use, you will only be able to charge 1 while you sleep. it would be more ideal to have 3 or one of the larger chargers that do more than one and have no less than 10 batteries ready to go.
    on top of this when you go out you will have a pocket full of batteries, making this not a very portable device to bring with you.

    other than that you have to recharge more often and the more you charge the more you replace. batteries have an # of recharges before they start failing to keep their charge. now you may say by logic that you are only charging once on those small batteries in that 9hr time, so there isn't an issue on life, BUT, the smaller the battery the less times you can charge it before the failing starts. also consider that you have 3 batteries that will fail

    First Order
    When you get an ecig make sure that you have spares of everything.
    the atomizers, cartomizers, batteries, and juice are all going to need purchased at some point again.
    Your first cart should consist of NO LESS than, 5 atomizers, 2 packs of cartomizers (5 in a pack), your kit, 2 extra batteries (i would advise mega batteries), 1 extra charger, and a nice amount of juice.
    the last thing you want is to have to wait on something you didn't buy enough of to come in. if one thing is missing you will go right back to smoking, nobody wants that.

    Mods and Why
    Mods are usually over looked or not even known to noobies of the ecig world.
    these devices can be anywhere from 3.7v to 8.4v.
    the point is that some people need one of two things, longer battery life with less cost and/or an aggressive throat hit.
    as a newbie i wouldn't advise a mod above 3.7v that doesn't have the option to go as low as 4.2v
    if it is not a variable voltage you are stuck on that till you get something lower if you don't like it.
    i say 4.2v because any 3.7v battery charges UP TO 4.2v. most people love vaping that initial fresh charged battery. voltage drops after usage to as low as 2.9v

    Mods will use batteries like these

    these are all 3.7v batteries with a much longer charge life vs a kit ecig.
    you can find almost all of these batteries from US suppliers for $5 each.
    a 3.7v mod using the largest battery (18650) can last you 4+ days @ $8 for the battery.

    some mods can last up to 4+ days before needing to be recharged.

    I'm not going to go into mods or pictures of mods. you can do that on your own, also watch youtube videos about the mods before thinking its large.
    the standard ones people use are
    silver bullet
    mako
    tekk mod (prone to cracking at the top unless you find someone that knows how to make them correctly)
    some sort of wetbox (check reviews of these missys wetbox fails quite often due to her under rated buttons and cost $15 to fix)
    (there are a crazy amount of mods out there, this is just a small list of the most talked about)

    Abbreviations

    General

    Noob - Beginner
    OP - Original Post(er)
    Analog - Regular Cigarette
    Mod - Homemade device or a Moderator.
    Pull - The act of sucking on the mouthpiece to pull the vapor into your mouth
    TH - Throat Hit (The tingling sensation in the back of your throat)
    Vapor - the "smoke" emitted from an e-cigarette
    Vape, Vaping - The use of an e-cigarette (similar to the term "smoking" when referring to an analog)
    Topping off - Adding drops of e-liquid to your current cartridge.
    Dripping - Vaping by adding a few drops of e-liquid directly on the atomizer instead of using a cartridge.
    Dipping - Sticking the bridge of the atomizer in e-liquid.

    E-Cigarette

    E-cig or E-cigarette - Electronic Cigarette
    PV - Personal Vaporizer
    Atty - Atomizer
    Cart - Cartridge
    Bat - Battery
    Filler - The fiber found inside your cartridge that holds your e-liquid
    PCC - Personal Charging Case
    SD - ScrewDriver
    JS - Janty Stick
    PT - Passthrough or passthrough battery
    2-piece/Disposable - 2 part e-cigarette. The Battery and a "cartomizer".
    Cartomizer - An atomizer built into the cartridge, marketed as disposable (you throw it away when the e-liquid is used up).
    3-piece - 3 part e-cigarette. Battery, Atomizer, and Cartridge.
    Cutoff - Refers to how long the battery will activate the atomizer before shutting down (safety measure to protect the atomizer).

    E-Liquid

    E-juice, e-liquid, juice - the liquid nicotine that you fill your cartridges with.
    DIY - Do it yourself (homemade e-liquid mixture)
    PG - Propylene Glycol
    VG - Vegetable Glycerin(Glycerine = glycerin = vegetable glycerin(e) = glycerol)
    PEG - Polylethylene Glycol

    Suppliers

    VT - Vaportalk
    VG - Vaporgalaxy
    VB - Vaporbomb
    ENS - electronicstix
    JC - Johnson Creek
    PS - PureSmoker
    TW - Totally Wicked
    EST - E-smokeytreats
    JS - JantyStick
    SD - ScrewDriver
    GG - The GG!

    Miscellaneous

    FDA - Food and Drug Administration
    ECA - Electronic Cigarette Association
    NRT - Nicotine Replacement Therapy (patch, gum, e-cig)
    PH - Public Health
    BP - Big Pharmaceutical Companies
    BT - Big Tobacco Companies
    ALF - American Legacy Foundation
    'Anti's - Anti-smoking people who do not acknowledge that vaping is a viable alternative to smoking analogs.
    RYO - Roll your own (tobacco)

    Universal Forum Lingo

    AFAIK - As Far As I Know
    BTW - By The Way
    DOA - Dead On Arrival (didn't work from the moment I got it)
    FWIW- For What It's Worth
    FYI - For Your Information
    IDK - I Don't Know
    IIRC - If I Recall/Remember Correctly
    IMO or IMHO - In My Opinion or In My Humble Opinion (some mean 'H' to be Honest)
    IOW - In Other Words
    JK or JJ - Just Kidding or Just Joking
    JS - Just Saying
    OMG or OMFG - Oh My God and it's adult extension
    PITA - Pain In The ***
    PWN - Own or "dominate"
    ROTFLOL - Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud
    ROTFLMFAO - ^ Adult Extension of above
    SOL - (can't be helped or fixed)
    (SP?) - Used when unsure of the spelling of the previous word
    TIA - Thanks In Advance
    TMI - Too Much Information (too personal)
    TOS - Terms Of Service ("the rules")
    TROLL - A person that posts in a forum/thread with the sole intention of provoking an argument (can sometimes also imply a "spy")
    TY - Thank You
    WOOT - Exclamation, as in Hooray! (Sometimes: Want One Of Those)
    WTF - Same As below
    WTH - What/Where/Who The Hell
    YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (your experience may differ from mine)
  15. Like
    Jolly got a reaction from KaYoTiiC in Noobie Guide To Vaping   
    (Please only post questions OR additional noobie info in here to keep this thread clean. ie: no thank you, good post, etc, posts)

    This is to help you play catch up on what the veterans know.

    Basic ecig Parts

    A.) Cartridge - holds the ejuice and is also a mouth piece. this part can be replaced with a drip tip and is what most do
    B.) Atomizer - has an element that heats up the ejuice and as you pull air threw it vapor is produced.
    * sub B section - you can also use cartomizers, they are atomizers with filler to hold juice and are a tad shorter in size.
    C.) battery - these will be 3.7v Lithium Ion batteries, they supply the power to the atomizer. they come in auto (activated by suction) or manual (activated by button)

    Common Ecigs


    What's the best ecig
    This is more dependent on how you vape and your needs for vapor, throat/lung hit, battery life needs and other factors.
    Most people will advise the ego/tornado/riva as they all have a nice battery life and are built good (ego being the favorite of the three)
    this is the ego mega and regular batteries with manual buttons


    Ecig Model Numbers
    These are based on the atomizer they use
    when one says 510 kit, they generally are referring to the cigarette shaped ecig. like the first picture of this post.

    Why we tell you not to get cigarette shaped ecigs
    A cigarette shaped battery runs $12 for a normal manual 510

    9hrs at $20 (ego battery) 540mins
    45mins (510 kit battery) 540 ÷ 45 = 12
    12 (batteries) x $12 = $144

    so for mAh (Milliamp hours), it is a lot less expensive to buy a larger battery.
    this will also keep you from having to buy more batteries. explained after next set of math.

    510 kit batteries needed for 9hrs
    9hrs (540mins) ÷ (45min run time + 2hr charge time = 165mins) = 3.272727273 batteries needed to run 9hrs on 510 kit
    3 x $12 = $36 - 1 ego battery = $20 = $16 saved. that is initial cost only!!

    45min x 2 is what you have ready to go after your first needs charged (90mins).
    your first battery is going to take 2hrs to charge so by the time you run out the other two the first is done charging.
    so just to keep going you would need at bare minimum you want two 510 chargers, this means more $$.
    why you ask? at night when you don't have a single battery to use, you will only be able to charge 1 while you sleep. it would be more ideal to have 3 or one of the larger chargers that do more than one and have no less than 10 batteries ready to go.
    on top of this when you go out you will have a pocket full of batteries, making this not a very portable device to bring with you.

    other than that you have to recharge more often and the more you charge the more you replace. batteries have an # of recharges before they start failing to keep their charge. now you may say by logic that you are only charging once on those small batteries in that 9hr time, so there isn't an issue on life, BUT, the smaller the battery the less times you can charge it before the failing starts. also consider that you have 3 batteries that will fail

    First Order
    When you get an ecig make sure that you have spares of everything.
    the atomizers, cartomizers, batteries, and juice are all going to need purchased at some point again.
    Your first cart should consist of NO LESS than, 5 atomizers, 2 packs of cartomizers (5 in a pack), your kit, 2 extra batteries (i would advise mega batteries), 1 extra charger, and a nice amount of juice.
    the last thing you want is to have to wait on something you didn't buy enough of to come in. if one thing is missing you will go right back to smoking, nobody wants that.

    Mods and Why
    Mods are usually over looked or not even known to noobies of the ecig world.
    these devices can be anywhere from 3.7v to 8.4v.
    the point is that some people need one of two things, longer battery life with less cost and/or an aggressive throat hit.
    as a newbie i wouldn't advise a mod above 3.7v that doesn't have the option to go as low as 4.2v
    if it is not a variable voltage you are stuck on that till you get something lower if you don't like it.
    i say 4.2v because any 3.7v battery charges UP TO 4.2v. most people love vaping that initial fresh charged battery. voltage drops after usage to as low as 2.9v

    Mods will use batteries like these

    these are all 3.7v batteries with a much longer charge life vs a kit ecig.
    you can find almost all of these batteries from US suppliers for $5 each.
    a 3.7v mod using the largest battery (18650) can last you 4+ days @ $8 for the battery.

    some mods can last up to 4+ days before needing to be recharged.

    I'm not going to go into mods or pictures of mods. you can do that on your own, also watch youtube videos about the mods before thinking its large.
    the standard ones people use are
    silver bullet
    mako
    tekk mod (prone to cracking at the top unless you find someone that knows how to make them correctly)
    some sort of wetbox (check reviews of these missys wetbox fails quite often due to her under rated buttons and cost $15 to fix)
    (there are a crazy amount of mods out there, this is just a small list of the most talked about)

    Abbreviations

    General

    Noob - Beginner
    OP - Original Post(er)
    Analog - Regular Cigarette
    Mod - Homemade device or a Moderator.
    Pull - The act of sucking on the mouthpiece to pull the vapor into your mouth
    TH - Throat Hit (The tingling sensation in the back of your throat)
    Vapor - the "smoke" emitted from an e-cigarette
    Vape, Vaping - The use of an e-cigarette (similar to the term "smoking" when referring to an analog)
    Topping off - Adding drops of e-liquid to your current cartridge.
    Dripping - Vaping by adding a few drops of e-liquid directly on the atomizer instead of using a cartridge.
    Dipping - Sticking the bridge of the atomizer in e-liquid.

    E-Cigarette

    E-cig or E-cigarette - Electronic Cigarette
    PV - Personal Vaporizer
    Atty - Atomizer
    Cart - Cartridge
    Bat - Battery
    Filler - The fiber found inside your cartridge that holds your e-liquid
    PCC - Personal Charging Case
    SD - ScrewDriver
    JS - Janty Stick
    PT - Passthrough or passthrough battery
    2-piece/Disposable - 2 part e-cigarette. The Battery and a "cartomizer".
    Cartomizer - An atomizer built into the cartridge, marketed as disposable (you throw it away when the e-liquid is used up).
    3-piece - 3 part e-cigarette. Battery, Atomizer, and Cartridge.
    Cutoff - Refers to how long the battery will activate the atomizer before shutting down (safety measure to protect the atomizer).

    E-Liquid

    E-juice, e-liquid, juice - the liquid nicotine that you fill your cartridges with.
    DIY - Do it yourself (homemade e-liquid mixture)
    PG - Propylene Glycol
    VG - Vegetable Glycerin(Glycerine = glycerin = vegetable glycerin(e) = glycerol)
    PEG - Polylethylene Glycol

    Suppliers

    VT - Vaportalk
    VG - Vaporgalaxy
    VB - Vaporbomb
    ENS - electronicstix
    JC - Johnson Creek
    PS - PureSmoker
    TW - Totally Wicked
    EST - E-smokeytreats
    JS - JantyStick
    SD - ScrewDriver
    GG - The GG!

    Miscellaneous

    FDA - Food and Drug Administration
    ECA - Electronic Cigarette Association
    NRT - Nicotine Replacement Therapy (patch, gum, e-cig)
    PH - Public Health
    BP - Big Pharmaceutical Companies
    BT - Big Tobacco Companies
    ALF - American Legacy Foundation
    'Anti's - Anti-smoking people who do not acknowledge that vaping is a viable alternative to smoking analogs.
    RYO - Roll your own (tobacco)

    Universal Forum Lingo

    AFAIK - As Far As I Know
    BTW - By The Way
    DOA - Dead On Arrival (didn't work from the moment I got it)
    FWIW- For What It's Worth
    FYI - For Your Information
    IDK - I Don't Know
    IIRC - If I Recall/Remember Correctly
    IMO or IMHO - In My Opinion or In My Humble Opinion (some mean 'H' to be Honest)
    IOW - In Other Words
    JK or JJ - Just Kidding or Just Joking
    JS - Just Saying
    OMG or OMFG - Oh My God and it's adult extension
    PITA - Pain In The ***
    PWN - Own or "dominate"
    ROTFLOL - Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud
    ROTFLMFAO - ^ Adult Extension of above
    SOL - (can't be helped or fixed)
    (SP?) - Used when unsure of the spelling of the previous word
    TIA - Thanks In Advance
    TMI - Too Much Information (too personal)
    TOS - Terms Of Service ("the rules")
    TROLL - A person that posts in a forum/thread with the sole intention of provoking an argument (can sometimes also imply a "spy")
    TY - Thank You
    WOOT - Exclamation, as in Hooray! (Sometimes: Want One Of Those)
    WTF - Same As below
    WTH - What/Where/Who The Hell
    YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (your experience may differ from mine)
  16. Like
    Jolly got a reaction from noXious in Noobie Guide To Vaping   
    (Please only post questions OR additional noobie info in here to keep this thread clean. ie: no thank you, good post, etc, posts)

    This is to help you play catch up on what the veterans know.

    Basic ecig Parts

    A.) Cartridge - holds the ejuice and is also a mouth piece. this part can be replaced with a drip tip and is what most do
    B.) Atomizer - has an element that heats up the ejuice and as you pull air threw it vapor is produced.
    * sub B section - you can also use cartomizers, they are atomizers with filler to hold juice and are a tad shorter in size.
    C.) battery - these will be 3.7v Lithium Ion batteries, they supply the power to the atomizer. they come in auto (activated by suction) or manual (activated by button)

    Common Ecigs


    What's the best ecig
    This is more dependent on how you vape and your needs for vapor, throat/lung hit, battery life needs and other factors.
    Most people will advise the ego/tornado/riva as they all have a nice battery life and are built good (ego being the favorite of the three)
    this is the ego mega and regular batteries with manual buttons


    Ecig Model Numbers
    These are based on the atomizer they use
    when one says 510 kit, they generally are referring to the cigarette shaped ecig. like the first picture of this post.

    Why we tell you not to get cigarette shaped ecigs
    A cigarette shaped battery runs $12 for a normal manual 510

    9hrs at $20 (ego battery) 540mins
    45mins (510 kit battery) 540 ÷ 45 = 12
    12 (batteries) x $12 = $144

    so for mAh (Milliamp hours), it is a lot less expensive to buy a larger battery.
    this will also keep you from having to buy more batteries. explained after next set of math.

    510 kit batteries needed for 9hrs
    9hrs (540mins) ÷ (45min run time + 2hr charge time = 165mins) = 3.272727273 batteries needed to run 9hrs on 510 kit
    3 x $12 = $36 - 1 ego battery = $20 = $16 saved. that is initial cost only!!

    45min x 2 is what you have ready to go after your first needs charged (90mins).
    your first battery is going to take 2hrs to charge so by the time you run out the other two the first is done charging.
    so just to keep going you would need at bare minimum you want two 510 chargers, this means more $$.
    why you ask? at night when you don't have a single battery to use, you will only be able to charge 1 while you sleep. it would be more ideal to have 3 or one of the larger chargers that do more than one and have no less than 10 batteries ready to go.
    on top of this when you go out you will have a pocket full of batteries, making this not a very portable device to bring with you.

    other than that you have to recharge more often and the more you charge the more you replace. batteries have an # of recharges before they start failing to keep their charge. now you may say by logic that you are only charging once on those small batteries in that 9hr time, so there isn't an issue on life, BUT, the smaller the battery the less times you can charge it before the failing starts. also consider that you have 3 batteries that will fail

    First Order
    When you get an ecig make sure that you have spares of everything.
    the atomizers, cartomizers, batteries, and juice are all going to need purchased at some point again.
    Your first cart should consist of NO LESS than, 5 atomizers, 2 packs of cartomizers (5 in a pack), your kit, 2 extra batteries (i would advise mega batteries), 1 extra charger, and a nice amount of juice.
    the last thing you want is to have to wait on something you didn't buy enough of to come in. if one thing is missing you will go right back to smoking, nobody wants that.

    Mods and Why
    Mods are usually over looked or not even known to noobies of the ecig world.
    these devices can be anywhere from 3.7v to 8.4v.
    the point is that some people need one of two things, longer battery life with less cost and/or an aggressive throat hit.
    as a newbie i wouldn't advise a mod above 3.7v that doesn't have the option to go as low as 4.2v
    if it is not a variable voltage you are stuck on that till you get something lower if you don't like it.
    i say 4.2v because any 3.7v battery charges UP TO 4.2v. most people love vaping that initial fresh charged battery. voltage drops after usage to as low as 2.9v

    Mods will use batteries like these

    these are all 3.7v batteries with a much longer charge life vs a kit ecig.
    you can find almost all of these batteries from US suppliers for $5 each.
    a 3.7v mod using the largest battery (18650) can last you 4+ days @ $8 for the battery.

    some mods can last up to 4+ days before needing to be recharged.

    I'm not going to go into mods or pictures of mods. you can do that on your own, also watch youtube videos about the mods before thinking its large.
    the standard ones people use are
    silver bullet
    mako
    tekk mod (prone to cracking at the top unless you find someone that knows how to make them correctly)
    some sort of wetbox (check reviews of these missys wetbox fails quite often due to her under rated buttons and cost $15 to fix)
    (there are a crazy amount of mods out there, this is just a small list of the most talked about)

    Abbreviations

    General

    Noob - Beginner
    OP - Original Post(er)
    Analog - Regular Cigarette
    Mod - Homemade device or a Moderator.
    Pull - The act of sucking on the mouthpiece to pull the vapor into your mouth
    TH - Throat Hit (The tingling sensation in the back of your throat)
    Vapor - the "smoke" emitted from an e-cigarette
    Vape, Vaping - The use of an e-cigarette (similar to the term "smoking" when referring to an analog)
    Topping off - Adding drops of e-liquid to your current cartridge.
    Dripping - Vaping by adding a few drops of e-liquid directly on the atomizer instead of using a cartridge.
    Dipping - Sticking the bridge of the atomizer in e-liquid.

    E-Cigarette

    E-cig or E-cigarette - Electronic Cigarette
    PV - Personal Vaporizer
    Atty - Atomizer
    Cart - Cartridge
    Bat - Battery
    Filler - The fiber found inside your cartridge that holds your e-liquid
    PCC - Personal Charging Case
    SD - ScrewDriver
    JS - Janty Stick
    PT - Passthrough or passthrough battery
    2-piece/Disposable - 2 part e-cigarette. The Battery and a "cartomizer".
    Cartomizer - An atomizer built into the cartridge, marketed as disposable (you throw it away when the e-liquid is used up).
    3-piece - 3 part e-cigarette. Battery, Atomizer, and Cartridge.
    Cutoff - Refers to how long the battery will activate the atomizer before shutting down (safety measure to protect the atomizer).

    E-Liquid

    E-juice, e-liquid, juice - the liquid nicotine that you fill your cartridges with.
    DIY - Do it yourself (homemade e-liquid mixture)
    PG - Propylene Glycol
    VG - Vegetable Glycerin(Glycerine = glycerin = vegetable glycerin(e) = glycerol)
    PEG - Polylethylene Glycol

    Suppliers

    VT - Vaportalk
    VG - Vaporgalaxy
    VB - Vaporbomb
    ENS - electronicstix
    JC - Johnson Creek
    PS - PureSmoker
    TW - Totally Wicked
    EST - E-smokeytreats
    JS - JantyStick
    SD - ScrewDriver
    GG - The GG!

    Miscellaneous

    FDA - Food and Drug Administration
    ECA - Electronic Cigarette Association
    NRT - Nicotine Replacement Therapy (patch, gum, e-cig)
    PH - Public Health
    BP - Big Pharmaceutical Companies
    BT - Big Tobacco Companies
    ALF - American Legacy Foundation
    'Anti's - Anti-smoking people who do not acknowledge that vaping is a viable alternative to smoking analogs.
    RYO - Roll your own (tobacco)

    Universal Forum Lingo

    AFAIK - As Far As I Know
    BTW - By The Way
    DOA - Dead On Arrival (didn't work from the moment I got it)
    FWIW- For What It's Worth
    FYI - For Your Information
    IDK - I Don't Know
    IIRC - If I Recall/Remember Correctly
    IMO or IMHO - In My Opinion or In My Humble Opinion (some mean 'H' to be Honest)
    IOW - In Other Words
    JK or JJ - Just Kidding or Just Joking
    JS - Just Saying
    OMG or OMFG - Oh My God and it's adult extension
    PITA - Pain In The ***
    PWN - Own or "dominate"
    ROTFLOL - Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud
    ROTFLMFAO - ^ Adult Extension of above
    SOL - (can't be helped or fixed)
    (SP?) - Used when unsure of the spelling of the previous word
    TIA - Thanks In Advance
    TMI - Too Much Information (too personal)
    TOS - Terms Of Service ("the rules")
    TROLL - A person that posts in a forum/thread with the sole intention of provoking an argument (can sometimes also imply a "spy")
    TY - Thank You
    WOOT - Exclamation, as in Hooray! (Sometimes: Want One Of Those)
    WTF - Same As below
    WTH - What/Where/Who The Hell
    YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (your experience may differ from mine)
  17. Like
    Jolly got a reaction from Christopher in Noobie Guide To Vaping   
    (Please only post questions OR additional noobie info in here to keep this thread clean. ie: no thank you, good post, etc, posts)

    This is to help you play catch up on what the veterans know.

    Basic ecig Parts

    A.) Cartridge - holds the ejuice and is also a mouth piece. this part can be replaced with a drip tip and is what most do
    B.) Atomizer - has an element that heats up the ejuice and as you pull air threw it vapor is produced.
    * sub B section - you can also use cartomizers, they are atomizers with filler to hold juice and are a tad shorter in size.
    C.) battery - these will be 3.7v Lithium Ion batteries, they supply the power to the atomizer. they come in auto (activated by suction) or manual (activated by button)

    Common Ecigs


    What's the best ecig
    This is more dependent on how you vape and your needs for vapor, throat/lung hit, battery life needs and other factors.
    Most people will advise the ego/tornado/riva as they all have a nice battery life and are built good (ego being the favorite of the three)
    this is the ego mega and regular batteries with manual buttons


    Ecig Model Numbers
    These are based on the atomizer they use
    when one says 510 kit, they generally are referring to the cigarette shaped ecig. like the first picture of this post.

    Why we tell you not to get cigarette shaped ecigs
    A cigarette shaped battery runs $12 for a normal manual 510

    9hrs at $20 (ego battery) 540mins
    45mins (510 kit battery) 540 ÷ 45 = 12
    12 (batteries) x $12 = $144

    so for mAh (Milliamp hours), it is a lot less expensive to buy a larger battery.
    this will also keep you from having to buy more batteries. explained after next set of math.

    510 kit batteries needed for 9hrs
    9hrs (540mins) ÷ (45min run time + 2hr charge time = 165mins) = 3.272727273 batteries needed to run 9hrs on 510 kit
    3 x $12 = $36 - 1 ego battery = $20 = $16 saved. that is initial cost only!!

    45min x 2 is what you have ready to go after your first needs charged (90mins).
    your first battery is going to take 2hrs to charge so by the time you run out the other two the first is done charging.
    so just to keep going you would need at bare minimum you want two 510 chargers, this means more $$.
    why you ask? at night when you don't have a single battery to use, you will only be able to charge 1 while you sleep. it would be more ideal to have 3 or one of the larger chargers that do more than one and have no less than 10 batteries ready to go.
    on top of this when you go out you will have a pocket full of batteries, making this not a very portable device to bring with you.

    other than that you have to recharge more often and the more you charge the more you replace. batteries have an # of recharges before they start failing to keep their charge. now you may say by logic that you are only charging once on those small batteries in that 9hr time, so there isn't an issue on life, BUT, the smaller the battery the less times you can charge it before the failing starts. also consider that you have 3 batteries that will fail

    First Order
    When you get an ecig make sure that you have spares of everything.
    the atomizers, cartomizers, batteries, and juice are all going to need purchased at some point again.
    Your first cart should consist of NO LESS than, 5 atomizers, 2 packs of cartomizers (5 in a pack), your kit, 2 extra batteries (i would advise mega batteries), 1 extra charger, and a nice amount of juice.
    the last thing you want is to have to wait on something you didn't buy enough of to come in. if one thing is missing you will go right back to smoking, nobody wants that.

    Mods and Why
    Mods are usually over looked or not even known to noobies of the ecig world.
    these devices can be anywhere from 3.7v to 8.4v.
    the point is that some people need one of two things, longer battery life with less cost and/or an aggressive throat hit.
    as a newbie i wouldn't advise a mod above 3.7v that doesn't have the option to go as low as 4.2v
    if it is not a variable voltage you are stuck on that till you get something lower if you don't like it.
    i say 4.2v because any 3.7v battery charges UP TO 4.2v. most people love vaping that initial fresh charged battery. voltage drops after usage to as low as 2.9v

    Mods will use batteries like these

    these are all 3.7v batteries with a much longer charge life vs a kit ecig.
    you can find almost all of these batteries from US suppliers for $5 each.
    a 3.7v mod using the largest battery (18650) can last you 4+ days @ $8 for the battery.

    some mods can last up to 4+ days before needing to be recharged.

    I'm not going to go into mods or pictures of mods. you can do that on your own, also watch youtube videos about the mods before thinking its large.
    the standard ones people use are
    silver bullet
    mako
    tekk mod (prone to cracking at the top unless you find someone that knows how to make them correctly)
    some sort of wetbox (check reviews of these missys wetbox fails quite often due to her under rated buttons and cost $15 to fix)
    (there are a crazy amount of mods out there, this is just a small list of the most talked about)

    Abbreviations

    General

    Noob - Beginner
    OP - Original Post(er)
    Analog - Regular Cigarette
    Mod - Homemade device or a Moderator.
    Pull - The act of sucking on the mouthpiece to pull the vapor into your mouth
    TH - Throat Hit (The tingling sensation in the back of your throat)
    Vapor - the "smoke" emitted from an e-cigarette
    Vape, Vaping - The use of an e-cigarette (similar to the term "smoking" when referring to an analog)
    Topping off - Adding drops of e-liquid to your current cartridge.
    Dripping - Vaping by adding a few drops of e-liquid directly on the atomizer instead of using a cartridge.
    Dipping - Sticking the bridge of the atomizer in e-liquid.

    E-Cigarette

    E-cig or E-cigarette - Electronic Cigarette
    PV - Personal Vaporizer
    Atty - Atomizer
    Cart - Cartridge
    Bat - Battery
    Filler - The fiber found inside your cartridge that holds your e-liquid
    PCC - Personal Charging Case
    SD - ScrewDriver
    JS - Janty Stick
    PT - Passthrough or passthrough battery
    2-piece/Disposable - 2 part e-cigarette. The Battery and a "cartomizer".
    Cartomizer - An atomizer built into the cartridge, marketed as disposable (you throw it away when the e-liquid is used up).
    3-piece - 3 part e-cigarette. Battery, Atomizer, and Cartridge.
    Cutoff - Refers to how long the battery will activate the atomizer before shutting down (safety measure to protect the atomizer).

    E-Liquid

    E-juice, e-liquid, juice - the liquid nicotine that you fill your cartridges with.
    DIY - Do it yourself (homemade e-liquid mixture)
    PG - Propylene Glycol
    VG - Vegetable Glycerin(Glycerine = glycerin = vegetable glycerin(e) = glycerol)
    PEG - Polylethylene Glycol

    Suppliers

    VT - Vaportalk
    VG - Vaporgalaxy
    VB - Vaporbomb
    ENS - electronicstix
    JC - Johnson Creek
    PS - PureSmoker
    TW - Totally Wicked
    EST - E-smokeytreats
    JS - JantyStick
    SD - ScrewDriver
    GG - The GG!

    Miscellaneous

    FDA - Food and Drug Administration
    ECA - Electronic Cigarette Association
    NRT - Nicotine Replacement Therapy (patch, gum, e-cig)
    PH - Public Health
    BP - Big Pharmaceutical Companies
    BT - Big Tobacco Companies
    ALF - American Legacy Foundation
    'Anti's - Anti-smoking people who do not acknowledge that vaping is a viable alternative to smoking analogs.
    RYO - Roll your own (tobacco)

    Universal Forum Lingo

    AFAIK - As Far As I Know
    BTW - By The Way
    DOA - Dead On Arrival (didn't work from the moment I got it)
    FWIW- For What It's Worth
    FYI - For Your Information
    IDK - I Don't Know
    IIRC - If I Recall/Remember Correctly
    IMO or IMHO - In My Opinion or In My Humble Opinion (some mean 'H' to be Honest)
    IOW - In Other Words
    JK or JJ - Just Kidding or Just Joking
    JS - Just Saying
    OMG or OMFG - Oh My God and it's adult extension
    PITA - Pain In The ***
    PWN - Own or "dominate"
    ROTFLOL - Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud
    ROTFLMFAO - ^ Adult Extension of above
    SOL - (can't be helped or fixed)
    (SP?) - Used when unsure of the spelling of the previous word
    TIA - Thanks In Advance
    TMI - Too Much Information (too personal)
    TOS - Terms Of Service ("the rules")
    TROLL - A person that posts in a forum/thread with the sole intention of provoking an argument (can sometimes also imply a "spy")
    TY - Thank You
    WOOT - Exclamation, as in Hooray! (Sometimes: Want One Of Those)
    WTF - Same As below
    WTH - What/Where/Who The Hell
    YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (your experience may differ from mine)
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    Jolly got a reaction from owutaqt in Looking For Bulk Juice   
    vt has builk
    freedomsmokeusa you can get 120ml bottles of juice (use discount code newbie for 30% off, make your order huge because i think its for your first time only)
    vaporbomb does weekly 30ml bottles at $10, most of their juice is pretty inexpensive already though.
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    Jolly got a reaction from B80 in Too Stupid To Drip?   
    make sure you clean out your battery threads with a qtip and then the bottom of the atty threads so that they are dry.
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    Jolly got a reaction from BEERCITYVAPRZ in You Are Simply Nobody If You Don't Have This!   
    that is something i wouldn't even make if i had the spare parts in my house.
    that's saying a lot since i was and maybe still am going to make a dilgo. (you can figure that one out)
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    Jolly got a reaction from Trice in Quick And Easy Blu Mod   
    welcome to modding.
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    Jolly got a reaction from upStomp in Boiled Cartomizers To Clean   
    you have to do two things to cartos to get them with that "oh so fresh" feeling

    the best is to use the squeeze bulb trick. it's the lil blue squeeze thing you suck snot from babies noses or i think they use them for ears also.
    chop off enough of the pointy part to be able to fit it into either the opening of your atty (for 808/901) or enough for the threads of a 510 to fit into.
    suck up water into the rest of the bulb and fit it onto the cart. squirt, fill, squirt, fill, squirt fill. till there is no trace of smell or color.
    with a 510 you can usually fit the thing into the opening also if you cut it right.. do that way also.

    once done you can boil if you want, i don't as cartos have a paper with glue on them most times.

    after the cleaning stage, you can blow the carto out with the bulb facing it open ended down.
    then hold the thread end and whip it at the ground like your trying to fling out the water at the floor.

    to dry, i put mine where hot air will be blowing on it, like the side of my pc that spits out crazy heat or behind my xbox while its on.
    if you want you can even throw them in the back of a car window and let the sun bake them dry.

    boiling isn't really needed.
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    Jolly got a reaction from BEERCITYVAPRZ in I Feel So Dumb   
    yeah the 250 price tag is insain. you can buy some of the best mods out there for well over 100 less and last 4 days on a single charge.
    the key to remember is that the 250 was worth it for switching over. so don't focus on the money, but don't buy anything from them again.

    now anyone saying one cartomizer or cartridge lasts = to a carton is full of bs.
    vape when and however much you feel like it.

    what it looks like you have is an 808 kit.
    i say use that till it dies or you want something that lasts longer.
    if you want better performance you can check into an ego or a mod.
    personally i tend to stick with the 510 attys and cartomizers.

    buy juice in the bottles like you would find here at the vt store along with empty cartos and attys
    this way you can fill your own and save cash and time. the prefilled stuff pretty much sucks.
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    Jolly got a reaction from Popsicle in Is It Wrong   
    i'm totally going to get attacked for what i may say.

    if she is using zero nic, likes the ecig, then i see no harm.
    we all need some type of support, if she doesn't have an issue with it then nobody else should.
    my female friend doesn't smoke but when we go out to the bar she loves to hit my caramel flavors that do have nic in them.

    your wife is her own person and can make her own choices.
    i wouldn't say "do this to help me".

    the real question at hand is, what is it that you are missing from cigs that you arent getting with your ecig, causing you to keep smoking them?
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    Jolly got a reaction from BEERCITYVAPRZ in Blog About Fda Case   
    what i find funny is that last year fda was blocking ecigs and was told it couldn't by a court.
    so what makes them think they can do it now? ie: why are they taking peoples packages like they have done to chris?

    i say its time to sue the fda for wrongful seizure and violating a court ruling.
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