DavidBowser

Yep, it is not all that unusual in some set ups. Mine usually do this around 1/3 left. I just top it off again. I used to curse and grab a fresh charged battery. LOL But I started building mods with 18650 batteries and they out last one tank.

Yeah, I need to try that out. Here is a link to a how-to video on coiling using a drill. It is intended for beading, but is a universal method.

So your first post is to complain about a thread thats a year old?? ......

It’s happened to all of us at some point. You pull the dead battery out of your favorite mod, you place it into your charger and the light turns green. Wait, green light? WTH it’s dead! Why is the green light on? Stupid Chinese crap charger, right? No, it’s probably not the charger. It’s the protection circuit in the battery. Some of these batteries are pricey and replacing them can take a toll on your wallet.
Here’s what probably happened…
Most good batteries come with built in protection. When the battery is drained too low the safety circuit kicks in to protect the battery and more so you, from any damage. Is there a way to fix the battery? Yes, sometimes. The the following trick doesn’t always work but has saved me countless headaches.
1. Grab another battery of equal size and voltage (if you don’t have another, grab a 9 volt battery)
2. Connect the positive and negative ends of both batteries (The second battery must be fully charged in order to repair the defective battery)
3. Hold for about 3-4 seconds.
NOTE: Positive to Positive, Negative to Negative!

Essentially you’re “jumping” the battery. It should cause the protection circuit to “reset”. Place your defective battery back on the charger and wallah, red light
I hope this helps some of you save a couple bucks and drive a little extra life out of those mod batteries.
-Chris

I was kidding on the juice, Hmmm, I am a heavy vaper though, NO NO NO Not a gallon, LOL.

Okay, they really need to stop coming up with so many cool toys now!

This one as well as a couple of others I saw from today's Vapelite newsletter all seem to have the easy to replace outer wicks. It was a real trial for me not to click "add to cart" today.

Thank you Tameiki, I am getting close to trying my hand at DIY jucing very soon and have an idea or two to play with. I do like the idea of mixing boughten E-juices, but I think I am about ready to get wet junk all over the table, LOL. The idea of tinkering just sounds too tempting not to give it a go. I will start small at first of course until I find what I really like.

Now if we could find the wick material by the yard and wire by the mile and juice by the gallon----.

Hmmm, what would an analog taste like if you put it down into the E-juice first? Marlboro Man smokes Watermellon, or Chocolate chip cookies!

You would have to ask them. Just call them to save time and gas.

I think the reason they want you to return the wrong product is because they are afraid you will mix them into a 50/50 blend or even a 60/40 blend. Twice as much product for the price of one.

Don't slip up!!! Believe me it only takes 1 cigarette to get you hooked again as we both know. Been there done that!! I have been vaping now only a week or so and am down to 3 to 4 analogs a day. Tomorrow I am going analog free after almost 50 years.

Spam much?

Grats David and good luck on quitting tomorrow. The first 3 days of quitting were a bit scary for me that i could stay quit. The first 3 days were hell and i was really 'on-edge'. I had vape to get me through, however. The chemicals were gone from my system after that and my next week was awesome. Now i celebrate 3 weeks tobacco free, just hang in there and think how yucky cigarettes will be after enjoying all the variety available in the vaping world.

LOL Thanks for the welcome!

Krystal68, Right now I am using straight from the bottle in my Clearonater a product called "Ice Menthol" from Smokelessimage. It has a good flavor etc, but it just is not strong enough tobacco flavor now. Then I first started, it of course, was very strong and I would cough with a deep hit, inhaling, but I am over that now.

Getting ready to start trying my own recipies and going to order a few things. I really want to cut down, or even out of, nicotene because I know that stuff is not good for you.

MSE12, I finally figured out the mouthfull hit like you said and it does indeed help.

Hopefully Last but not least......



Supplies:
1.Empty dropper bottles- 3ml, 5ml, 10ml sizes are great for mixing.
2. Pipette or syringe with blunt needle. Personally, I prefer using a syringe for mixing--More accurate.
3. paper towel or rag for handling any spills or messes
4. Labels are good for identifying your new mixes. If using paper labels I have found that applying scotch tape over the

label keeps the label legible.
5. mixing calculator helps with acheiving the correct nicotine strength. There are other calculators out there, but I

like Todd Muellers: http://www.todmuller.com/ejuice/ejuice.php . I usually put my flavor at 30 - 40%. I like lots of

flavor.

Mixing -can be simple (combining premixed liquids to create a new flavor) or more complicated, mixing from scratch. Or

somewhere in between.

1. Always start your mixing or experimentation with small amounts. Its much easier to throw out a small amount of liquid

if it turns out bad. The 3ml bottles are great for experimenting.
2. Its a good idea to keep track of what and how much you have added to your mix--just in case you want to make more.

**It is easy enough to mix 2 or more premixed liquids together to get a new flavor. This is easiest if you are using the

same nicotine strength.
i.e.- Tobacco 18mg/Watermelon 18mg/menthol 18mg/pina colada 18mg. The amounts would depend on taste.
Start with 5 drops of each in a 3ml bottle, shake and vape--can adjust the flavor as you want by adding more of one of

the flavors.
with the menthol--using just 1-2 drops/3ml will give a nice cool throat hit without tasting like menthol.

** Can use PG/VG or both to cut a higher strength liquid. i.e.- 24mg premixed liquid 1ml can be mixed with 1ml PG or VG

to make 12mg/ml liquid. If cutting a premixed flavor, keep in mind, it will also decrease the flavor. If you don’t want

the flavor loss you can cut with 0 nicotine strength in the same or a different flavor. You can also use flavorings to

boost the flavor. use the calculator to determine how much PG/VG to use to achieve the desired strength. Just put 0 in

the water and flavor boxes.

** Adding Flavoring to premixed liquids
This is actually one of the easiest forms of mixing and is a great place to start the DIY journey. We all have flavors

we don’t really care for, but by adding flavoring you can create a flavor you like.

Keep in mind--when adding flavoring it will dilute the nicotine strength of the premixed liquid. one way around this is

to get some unflavored higher nicotine liquid- i.e. 36mg that can be added to your mix to keep the nicotine strength at

your desired level.

My preferred nicotine level is 12mg/ml--so I will use that dose for mixing examples.

i.e.-- cappuccino 36mg/ml, 1.7ml + FlavourArt apple pie flavoring 1.5ml + VG 1.8ml for a total of 5ml 12mg/ml.
This is where the calculator comes in handy. Just put in the numbers, hit enter and the calculations are done for you.

This is where having a syringe is helpful.
However if you are using drops, I have found that 30 drops of PG = 1ml and 20 drops of VG = 1ml.
You can use more than one flavoring: cappuccino 1.7ml + apple pie flavoring 1ml + Vanilla 1ml + VG 1.3 ml = 5ml 12mg/ml

Don’t be afraid to mix more than one flavor. When cooking, most dishes require more than one flavor to get the right

taste.

** mixing from scratch
You will need PG and/or VG
Unflavored Nicotine liquid ( I usually use 36mg/ml)
Flavorings of choice

i.e. Easy
Watermelon 12mg/ml
3 ml PG or VG
1 ml Lorann Watermelon flavoring
2 drops Menthol flavoring (Flavourart)
2 ml 36mg/ml Unflavored liquid

i.e. using multiple flavors:

Apple Pie (6ml) 18mg/ml

3 ml 36/mg unflavored
1 ml FlavourArt(FA) Apple Pie
6 drops (Flavourart) Irish Cream
2 drops (FA) perique black (tobacco)
3 drops (FA) menthol
.5ml PG
.5ml VG
3 drops hazelnut
6 drops vanilla


** Misc Notes
Tobacco Flavorings are very, very strong--a little goes a very long way. A couple drops to 5ml will give a nice

background flavor. If using more, add a drop or 2 at a time to taste.

Lorann flavorings are very concentrated. You would use less Lorann than you would with other flavorings.

Avoid flavorings with oils or sugars--both can damage your atomizer.

If you find your mix needs to be sweeter there are a couple of options:
1. Loranns cotton candy or Marshmallow flavorings are great for adding sweetness.
2. DIY flavor shack carrys Eythol Malto which is a sweetener.
3. I actually prefer the Lorann--overall sweeter tasting.
4. I add a few drops of Menthol to all my mixes-adds a cool throat hit and enhances the flavor. Just a little does not

taste like menthol. If you like menthol, just add more.
5. always start mixing with small amounts and keep track of what and how much.
6. For taste testing--dripping works best.

Mixing is a lot of trial and error in the beginning.
Add flavoring a little at a time until you find the balance you like will help keep waste to a minimum.

I am hoping others will be able to add their tips and ideas. the above is just my own opinion and my own experience.

If all or part of this is confusing please let me know-writing documents is not my strong suit !!!!

Merry Mixing