Brian

Are you OK? I love direct advice as well, If you see the other thread there were posted links to youtube to help her, I WASNT TRYIN TO STEER ANYBODY IN A WRONG DITRECTION, ALRIGHT!

Yeah I agree thats why we sent her links to youtube on the spefic questions she was asking on the other thread, idk if you read it or not, I guess I wasn't looking at it from your perspective, (maybe you guys should ban me for this or hate me, im sorry ) I was looking at my experience and what I did, and I realize EVERYONE is DIFFERENT (computer savy, ect.) I honestly was trying to help her, not steer her in the wrong direction, Thanks for the cyber slap HODGE , I think I needed one on this one I wasn't thinking while typing.

GO TO YOUTUBE AND TYPE IN JOYE 510 AND EVERYTHING WILL BE THERE TO HELP YOU, ITS ALOT EASIER TO WATCH VIDEOS THAN TO TYPE OUT WHAT YOU SHOULD DO, thats by best advice for starting out, do research on vids then if you still have a questions come to the forum and ask, GOOD LUCK AND HAPPY VAPING!

Frank, no one ever said it wouldn't work.

I will be glad to order you some regular 510 cartos and have them shipped directly to you. Just PM me your address. When you get them, you can send me the LR ones. How many boxes do you have?

Please don't be discouraged by the content/tone of this thread... this is VERY rare here.

In retrospect, this is funny, so I thought I'd share it with everyone.

This happened yesterday evening.

My house is two story. You go up two steps, turn left, and then go up the rest of the steps. So I had gone up two steps, was trying to get Joey (my 5 year old) to tell me what he wanted for dinner. He was standing at the top of the steps. The conversation went something like this...

Me: What do you want for dinner?

Joey: Fish sticks and fries.

Me: We don't have fish sticks, how about chick nuggets?

Joey: How about fish sticks.

Me: We don't have fish sticks, what do you want?

Joey: Fish.

Me: (growing impatient) WE DON’T HAVE FISH! What do you want?

Joey: Fish tenders.

Me: (getting angry - we go through this with him often) WE DON'T HAVE FISH!!! How about chicken nuggets.

Joey: Okay - chicken nuggets and french fries.

So, in my frustration, I forgot I was up two step and when I turned to walk away I missed the two steps and took a spill. Now my back is tightening up and my legs hurt. I hate getting old!

I will be glad to order you some regular 510 cartos and have them shipped directly to you. Just PM me your address. When you get them, you can send me the LR ones. How many boxes do you have?

Please don't be discouraged by the content/tone of this thread... this is VERY rare here.

I almost positive you can use a lr atty on a standard 510 its not going to hurt to try you ain't going to break it.

YOU DIDNT WASTE YOUR MONEY AT ALL GO TO YOUTUBE AND MOST OF THE ANSWERS ARE THERE, pm me if you have a question maybe i can explain better but like i said watch vids and you will learn what to do, its a newbs adventure, we all went thru it!

People new to vaping want fast answers not sift through a bunch of videos! That why we are here on this forum! We answer their basic questions not send them on a wild goose hunt. We try to explain this to everyone in terms they can understand. This is exactly what turns people off to so many forums! People telling them to go search for anything! If you want them to see something SEND THEM A LINK TO IT! Don't make them look blindly for it. Remember, these people are new and may not understand the lingo or know how to do a specific search. Everyone is not computer savy and to take the route of telling them to go look for something IS NOT the way we do things here at Vapor Talk. We are here to help new members as much as we can, but telling them to go looking for something they may not truly understand in the first place is just wrong.

Yeah man ok, but YOU have to realize there are people who are just starting out and go right to the forum for some very basic questions, when alot of this is covered on youtube, if you really know how to research something its not hard to sift thru the bs and get the info you need, alot of posts on both her threads people on this forum started to post youtube links to help her, just my 3 cents!

No disrespect, but I do have to disagree with this. Telling someone just to search 510 on youtube is like telling them to google it. You will get tons of useless information that you have wade through to find good information. That is what forums are for, ask specific questions get specific answers. Myself, I personally enjoy messing around with youtube, and there is a lot of good info. But if you are looking for quick, to the point answers, keep asking here. You probably would not be using a forum if you were ok with random youtube and google searches. Like I said, no disrespect intended at all. Just my two cents.

In retrospect, this is funny, so I thought I'd share it with everyone.

This happened yesterday evening.

My house is two story. You go up two steps, turn left, and then go up the rest of the steps. So I had gone up two steps, was trying to get Joey (my 5 year old) to tell me what he wanted for dinner. He was standing at the top of the steps. The conversation went something like this...

Me: What do you want for dinner?

Joey: Fish sticks and fries.

Me: We don't have fish sticks, how about chick nuggets?

Joey: How about fish sticks.

Me: We don't have fish sticks, what do you want?

Joey: Fish.

Me: (growing impatient) WE DON’T HAVE FISH! What do you want?

Joey: Fish tenders.

Me: (getting angry - we go through this with him often) WE DON'T HAVE FISH!!! How about chicken nuggets.

Joey: Okay - chicken nuggets and french fries.

So, in my frustration, I forgot I was up two step and when I turned to walk away I missed the two steps and took a spill. Now my back is tightening up and my legs hurt. I hate getting old!

The vids below may help on direct dripping. If you don't want to direct drip, you should have got some carts with your kit (it should have come with some). The carts attach to the attomizer and have filler in them. You'll slowly drip drops of juice into the cart until the top looks like a slushy. Then put it on the attomizer. You should have three pieces for the ecig... battery, attomizer, cartridge.


What is direct dripping

How to direct drip

Hard to say. Looks like bixboxstore ships from China, so it may take a while to get your order and you'll probably pay more for shipping. I have heard of liquidnicotine, but have never ordered from them. Joye is pretty strengent about the price it allows distrbutors to sell the eGo for.

Not always... some only include one cone and one atty and sell a little cheaper. Still, I'd stick with a reputable supplier.

He has 20 million listeners. You're entitled to your opinion, but I happen to like Rush and don't think he's racist at all.

Lily, create an account on the VT store and I'll send ya a bottle of Dulcis on the house

For a beginner I would recommend just leaving the wick in so you don't have to mess around with the atomizer. If you're using the carts that come with the unit, those aren't very reliable; I would direct drip if you have juice.

Every time I get a new atomizer I put a paper towel under the atomizer where the battery threads are and blow into the cartridge so the primer juice is blown onto the paper towel. Then I add about 4-6 drops. If I get a burnt taste I add more juice. After that point everything should be working fine (flavor, vapor, etc). Then you would continue adding 3 drops everything the flavor and or vapor diminishes.

Furthermore, if you're still getting the burnt taste after blowing out the primer juice and dripping for a while, you may have gotten a defective atomizer. This does happen and you should contact the supplier and let them know the issue.

Wow Schizo, I wish I could give you +5 for that one brother. Amen.

Your nasty taste is either from a too-dry atty or an atty that's not broken in yet. My vote is for too dry. I totally recommend direct dripping; cartridges just taste nasty unless they're totally full and draining a lot of liquid onto the atty. Direct dripping gets around that; three or four drops should be good for seven or eight drags off your 510. Remove the cartridge filler, and drip liquid directly onto the silver bridge inside the atty. Replace the mouthpiece and you're ready to go.

Like Schizo said, there's a learning curve to vaping and break in can take a while, depending on your drags and the individual atomizer. I usually just "hot box" it the first couple of loads of liquid to break in a new atty, then start vaping it. I never, ever, use cartridges! Yuck.

Good luck and hang in there. You'll get it down. We all went through this.

I understand your frustration. There is a learning curve to e-cigs. You don't just pick it up and smoke it like a cigarette. It takes practice and patience to get it down. It is like learning to ride a bike. It is hard at first and easy later. Please don't give it away. If people gave them away then no one would be vaping because we have all been in your shoes.

Anyway, lets work on solving your problem. The most important thing is to NOT try to quit smoking. This isn't like the patch where you fight the urge to have a smoke and feel guilty every time you fail. If you need a smoke then get one. Moving to electronic cigarettes isn't an instant change but a transition. Be patient.

The logic you had to get a flavor that matched your smokes is the same logic we all had. We start out with the tobacco flavors but almost all of us start to prefer other flavors. You will not find an e-cig flavor that tastes like a cigarette because most of the flavor is from the combustion. If you put tobacco in a vaporizer(not an ecig) it would taste totally different than setting it on fire. The natural flavors of tobacco are not what you get from smoke. Therefore it is hard if not impossible to make an e-juice that tastes identical to smoke. This may sound like a bad thing. I thought it was but it isn't. It is a good thing. I recommend buying a few samples of other flavors you like(chocolate, cherry, coffee...). You will be surprised when you find out what your all day vape will be. It most likely won't be a tobacco flavor.

The breaking in time all depends. For me it is usually a few hours. Keep at it if it is the only flavor you have. It could be that it needs to break in, you might not be used to the flavor, the flavor could suck, or it could be something else. Can you describe the flavor and have you tried direct dripping onto the atty instead of using carts? It is strange that there is a smell. Does the cart look melted inside? What does it smell like?

That is it for now. I'll let others jump in. DON'T GIVE IT AWAY! This is the easiest way to give up smoking but it takes time, practice, and patience to get it down. This could be your only chance to quit smoking, have better health, and save money. Trust me. I bought a piece of crap e-cig from Smoking Everywhere about a year ago. I was frustrated but I didn't give up. I'm an ex-smoker today.

Saw this on ECF - go vote!

Fox Freedom Watch

See post #3 linked below for pics. It may surprise you, but Dave has gone to cartos pretty much exclusively. You may want to PM him and get his opinion. He's really busy so don't know if he'll be reading this thread, but if you PM I'm sure he'll be glad to hear from you. Heck, PM me your address and I'll mail you a couple.


Carto Guts

I bought some 16340 High Drain AW Batts (red ones) and some 16340 ICR AW Batts (black ones) at Ikenvape and they seemed to make the top portion of my Joker very very warm (which I didn't like) so I stopped using them for that reason. I also bought some 16340 Ultrafire 880 mah (gray ones) from BatteryJunction that I now use and they do not heat up the top part of the Joker like the AW batts did.

Also, I would like to add that I know alot of people say AW batts are the best and do not like the Ultrafire batts (cheap chinese junk) but from my experience with all these batts IMHO the Ultrafire definately work better for me, lasting longer than the AW batts. Ultrafires lasting me 8-10 hours while the both the AW batts lasted me 4-6 hours. All is not lost with the AW batts though as I have a few highend flashlights that they work in just fine. Also, all AW batts mentioned here are 3.7 volts and the Ultrafires are 3.6 volts and AW batts are way more money than Ultrafires. Just my opinion, YMMV.