Uma

ECig Regulating.
By Dr. Ross

http://www.nicotinepolicy.net/gilbert-ross/516-smoking-kills-and-so-might-e-cigarette-regulation

"Effectively excluding e-cigarettes from the market via stringent regulation would have the effect of killing smokers and protecting cigarette and pharmaceutical markets. E-cigarettes, a far safer form of nicotine delivery, should not be submitted to tougher regulation than cigarettes.

Americans should not have to die from misguided regulation."

The entire article is quotable.

Still waiting.....

Wow Uma! Thanks for all the work it took to compile and post all these links.

It's big tobacco wanting to get their grubby little hands in on the e-cig money, because they are LOSING money from people switching. The thing is, they are more likely to agree to a no internet sales (big tobacco) because most of them, if not all (I don't know what PM plans to make) make cigalikes, which, of course, have no problems getting on gas station shelves. Gas stations aren't going to stock "our kind" of PV's - even just the eGos or Evod batteries, because with that, you have to have juice, you have to let people sample, and you have to have people who can answer questions about it, so it's too labor intensive. The big cigarette outlet here JUST started carrying juice (granted, I haven't been in there since they started, haven't been in there since I picked up the eGo the first time), so I don't know how much they are selling, what kind of sampling they are allowing, but at least they are selling more than just the cigalikes.

And I didn't expect them to start carrying this stuff because they are discount cigarettes, beer, and liquor, so it's not like they are a dedicated smoke shop with people standing around just to help you. Unless it's changed, it's just people at the counter checking you out, and they make TONS of money that way.

BUT, to get back to my original point, the big tobacco companies (PM is the last American Big Tobacco to get in) would likely agree to more regulation than the rest of the industry - with a lot of the cigalikes, they just market cigarette flavored cartridges (and truly, the cigalikes are what the news media and everything else on TV thinks of as vaping), they'll agree to no TV advertising because they can't advertise cigarettes on TV, either (but remember the Marlboro man?). And they won't stand up to making anti-vaping laws as strict as anti-cigarette laws, IMO, because it's no skin off their backs - their analogs can't be used in those situations, so they are used to it.

But the cigalike manufacturers are the ones that have the FDA's ear - which inevitably means big tobacco. And it pisses me off to no end. That's why I'm glad there are organizations like CASAA.

I don't know if you've been keeping up with this thread, I hope so, but I posted some articles in, I think the news section, or maybe health and safety, or both, since you put this up. One is a Forbes article on why the FDA is hiding the benefits of vaping. You'll find it interesting.

And yes, how is your research going? Keep us posted!

And Chantix is the most dangerous of them all. Even if it WASN'T contraindicated by my bipolar and my epilepsy, I wouldn't risk taking it.

Huh? The opposing "experts" certainly!! Which consists of expert Spin Doctors, amateur lab scientists, bought & paid for media, alphabet soup organizations from WHO to TFK to ALA to ACA and more who exist because of smoke tax money, senators/town councils/universities who gather grants from TSET and Big Pharma... Oh yes, BP, such as pfizer (Robert wood foundation aka Johnson & Johnson aka Pfizer) who promotes smoking bans and now vaping bans via grants and propaganda, while pushing Chantix, etc...
The FDA says chantix ok, but eCigs bad. Say what???
CDC lies about study results, to help ban attempts. Say what?

Please note: the fight used to be against a SMOKING. mysteriously it turned to tobacco. Next it turned to NICOTINE. Next it turned to Safer Alternatives. CHANTIX ADVERTISES "fighting NICOTINE without NICOTINE". They provide propaganda for insurance companies, towns, states, universities to ban NICOTINE, not smoking. Chantix has a reported over 500 deaths, over 2000 attempted (reported), etc, and the FDA/CDC/ blab labels backs them.

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Same with me Proetus I started with logic and the original plan was to eventually stop all together but I fell in love with vaping and its not gonna happen im definitly gonna keep vaping

Thanks IMEDIC I like it..real nice looking mod but I kinda have my heart set on the nemesis lol just wanted to see if anyone had anything bad to say about it

I most definitely see the argument in it..the prices out on some items are very high. I spend over my budget too often... but hey what I spend on mods and vape gear dosnt match what I spent on my smoking habit...if it keeps me off analogs I can deal with a little over spending

Let's not get an authentic vs clones debate going. Lol. It is a never ending argument. *whispers* Get the Panzer.

Thanks Uma I think you just pushed me over the edge lol....Iv been going on the site and looking at it over and over...but I think this thread has made up my mind...after the holidays I think this will be my first purchase

Here's a great micro coil tutorial by Rip that might be of interest.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItORJmByj2U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItORJmByj2U

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Good interview and great interviewer!

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

I have the Nemesis, it's outstanding! The Customer Service is also top of its class. They have magnets now too, I bought some with my purchase, as well as other extra parts. Plus, now they have other gear that is for the Nemesis & 69, like a hybrid & stuff.
It's well worth the money and it will outlive you.

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Jeffb it is a great looking mod. Not really in my budget but I was thinking of just putting money away and getting it. It caught my eye and now I just keep looking at it lol

3Rutez I saw a few clones but im not really a big fan of clones. Id rather give my money to the person who came up with the mod then a person who went off of there idea. I know its more money but thats just me

Its a beautiful mod. If you can afford it, I say go for it. I have never read anything bad about it.

Join the fight, join CASAA.org, sign petitions, post facts in article comments, write your political leaders, keep a close eye on your city council's emergency meetings (TSET is bribing towns), and never give up the fight.