spydre Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Well you get a star by your name for pronouncing it correctly. Mplough is first initial, last name. It comes from the original English name Ploughman. My ancestors fought during the crusades with Richard the Lionheart. After coming to American they dropped the 'man' and became Plough. Very cool. I can trace my ancestry back to (in this country) the American Revolution, and my German ancestors back a couple hundred years (thanks to a document written up at some point in time in the Loeffler family history leading up to how my mother's grandparents, on her mother's side, left German - at that time, Prussia). Been able to trace some of the Irish and Scot family history, but that's trickier, since my father's father left home at 16, and we don't have a lot of information on his side of the family, other than I think his parents and step-mother. Luckily, on my father's mother's side, there is a distant cousin that has done extensive research on the her side of the family - they even had a lumber town named after them, because well, the lumber mill was theirs, and they, primarily, were the residents of the town, a whole extended family. I've passed off the genealogy research back to my mother, now that she has time for it. She has connections out in the distant relatives that I just don't have - I managed to find three wives for one of my grandmother's ancestors, and an ungodly number of children - but either one marriage ended in divorce, which, you know, wasn't done in the 1700's (I think it was the 1700's) or the information is wrong, because I have the third wife while the second is still alive - which means you can't always trust information you get off others' family trees. In some distant way, we are supposed to be related to Charlemagne, but I didn't bother to trace that side line out. But it was very cool finding all the ancestors that fought in the Revolution, and some that died in the Revolution. joejoe, I'd heard that about Efest, I think I even saw the same chart. Not sure what you meant by IMR batteries pretty much tap out at 1600 - do you mean they die, or their performance drops off? Mplough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonculp Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Probably those were Sony 18650s. It was a major fiasco that affected Acer, Apple, Toshiba, Dell and any other poor saps who used Sony 18650s. Sony has had to recall (10+million) cells and also dispose of more tainted inventory (43 million) than all the other major manufacturers combined. WillBlack, I have been reading your posts for quite a while and you have a lot of good data on batteries, I really appreciate all the information. What 18650's do you recommend? I have a couple of VTC4's that I think are needing to replace, and I don't know what to replace them with. I will be using them for sub-ohm in mechanical mainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagex Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 got my lmnk 18650's ($5 each) (20a) yesterday got me a full charge on them and boom built a .5ohm tripple twisted 32g dual coil. battery doesnt even get a little bit warm on my stingray-x mech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mplough Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Has there been any consensus on what 18650's are the 'best'. I need 2 for my Juice Box (Sigelei). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoevapekins Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I honestly think in the near future we will see more and more lipo packs being used for box mods. They handle more work load anyways and last longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mplough Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Well after we figure out which are the best then I have then task of finding someone legit that sells them. Seems like eBay and online sellers have a lot of bad/fake stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compenstine Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 The one bad thing about the internet is you can't touch it or compare it to images of fakes until you have it in your hand. Most places just keep recycling photos from the maker or other legit batteries, then, send you the fake. It is the old bait and switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoevapekins Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Other than comp. Only place I trust to buy from is orbtronics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@hope_photography123 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Are all of these fairly safe in a nemi mod with at least 1.0 ohms? Help.. I won't use the yellow because there low discharge.. I heard u need fast discharge.. But safety wise I'm unclear on all of this and I'd like to vape safely... Any advice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compenstine Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I'm not sure I would trust the green one it looks to a fake Sony. I say the for the 1 most obvious reason. The top has two big of a gap. That is VTC 3 though, not sure if it is like the VTC4s and 5s on this point. Does it have a bump on the bottom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@hope_photography123 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I'm not sure I would trust the green one it looks to a fake Sony. I say the for the 1 most obvious reason. The top has two big of a gap. That is VTC 3 though, not sure if it is like the VTC4s and 5s on this point. Does it have a bump on the bottom? Definitely not the real thing.. Got it from the vape store too! Getting effests 20 amps..Waiting for these.. Reputable company tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@hope_photography123 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 And think that I got the green ones at the vape store.. I was still learning about researching everything! See u even need to know about spaces in the batteries. Lol I'm glad I live to read learn and read some more... If it interests me I'll read all day long.. Never afraid to ask the "dumb" questions either.. That's how we learn?! Compenstine, spydre and jasonculp 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoevapekins Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 No such thing as a dumb question. If someone doesn't understand something then there is another with the same question looking for the answer Tam, Earthling789, Mplough and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoevapekins Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I'll have to say on this forum we always try and help. Unlike those facebook groups everytime some post a question you get criticism over the question. We all start somewhere lol @hope_photography123 and Tam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@hope_photography123 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I've seen both criticism and great help from Facebook too depending on the group my local group has been extremely helpful One traded me a nemi (I love it) for an extra Russian. Clone dripper I had.. Another helped me fix my nemi switch till I grab some magnets... But I have seen the questions that ppl get mean about one person asked if we're inhaling vapor are we not slowly drowning ourselves.. Ppl were nice and mean. For a question? But that was a larger group... Btw I love this forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillBlack Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Definitely not the real thing.. Got it from the vape store too! Getting effests 20 amps.. Waiting for these.. Reputable company tho I consider Efest to be as far from reputable as you can get. Even labelling them as 'IMR' is laughable. True IMRs are LiMn2O4 or abbreviated as LMO. Panasonic makes no cells with that chemistry. This is a Panasonic rewrap. https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fvape.li%2Fefest-imr-18650-3100-mah-20a-attention-ces-batteries-sont-dangereuses%2F&sandbox=1 Here is a test from one of the flashlite forums. The bottom 2 traces are at 20A discharge. Note the initial voltage drop, can't even do 3.2V. Pathetic. Also note the poor tracking (the different results) between the 2 samples tested for each trace. Looks like they are using Panasonic cast offs that are dumped into the loose cell market. Here is a test of the Samsung INR18650-20R which they rate at 22A continuous @ 2000mAh Here we see the Samsung at 30A ( which is 36% MORE than it's stated 22A rating) manages ~3.65V out of the gate. At 20A looks like ~ 3.82V. We also see that up to the 20A trace it pretty much hits it's stated mAh. Also note how well they track, this is also a test of 2 samples, for the most part they look like one single trace. @hope_photography123 and Tam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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