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Mike at Indy Vapor Shop is over stocked with juice. That is why he has them on sale. He wants to go down to a lower stock and only keep the best flavors. I bet he will be willing to negotiate on bigger ml or price. You might be able to get him to sale a gallon of something. I have seen his gallons before he puts them in the little bottles. I bet he has a lot he needs to get rid of before they expire. I could be wrong but I have a feeling it is something like that. He is a good guy so, if you can negotiate a way for him to be happy then he will make you happy.

I personally talked to the guy on the phone at the place for .16cents a ml, and its NOT like hes mixing in his bathtub, he seemed very professional works out of a studio, older guy, and is really overstocked and just wants to have a sale to help people stock up, Ive already seen various good reviews on his liquid and everything is good with him, everything isnt always about money cant someone be nice, dont come on my topics and try to BASH them, send me a pm if you want to cross that line.

Im Posting this HERE because this is important to people who want to continue vaping after the fda bs! Hopefully after the court case only the 5 suppliers that got letters are done (witch sucks) and the rest of them will be running business as usual, but we don't know whats going to happen until it happens *fingers crossed* OK, alot of vapers are looking to stock up B4 the **** hits the fan at the end of this month and if you are not made of money like myself and want to stock up for the next 2 years with some quality liquids at a great price I hope this thread helps, SO with the little research I have done thru this forum and just randomly checking supplier sites, Ive found thanks to bobthesalesclerk, Bluemistvaping has 150ml for $25, now thats .16cents a ml, and Madvapes has 50ml for $10.99, now thats .22cents a ml, I suck at math but I think these are accurate numbers, now I found 2 suppliers with some insane prices bcuz alot of places sell it at or around .50cents a ml witch is good if your buying a couple little bottles, ANYWAY **I would appreciate if other members who know of any other DEALS on liquids can post it here** bcuz this will help me and alot of other people to stock up in the next couple of days, so if you know of some other suppliers with some good deals like the 2 listed PLEASE POST THEM HERE to help us stock up for the E Liquid Apocalapse coming real soon. Thank You VT staff and ALL its members!

I only know one supplier that still offers such additives, ginseng, vit c. We may be thinking of the same one, it sounds like it lol. Any way my thoughts on it are pretty Libertarian. So what, mind your own business and yes, FDA please, fock off and get a real job. I am more upset with the freaking flood of candy, fruit and food flavor juices out there and lack of tobacco flavors which I feel borders criminal lol.

I don't think the FDA has a problem with ginseng and vitamin c, it's other additives such as dietary additives and or poisonous ones. They also have a problem with the form of advertising and claims made. But for some reason are not overly concerned with the 4000 additives in tobacco or the claim that "light cigarettes are less dangerous or better for you." They really are a bunch of retards.

I tried the ginseng, it's orderless, tasteless and honestly the percentage of it added is so minute to have any effect at all. You already hit on a bigger problem in another thread regarding the flood of candy and desert flavors out there. Critics can point to that and say they are targeting kids.

Here is what i would like to see however. More consistency in rating and producing these juices with the ingredients listed on labels. Lets all get on the same page. One supplier considers 16mg HIGH and another considers it Medium. The different variations of the same flavor would also be easily detectable if the ingredients were labeled. I would also like to see the freedom to be able to purchase what ever nic dose I want. And finally I want a freaking WARNING LABEL on every juice bottle that reads:

WARNING: The FDA may be hazardous to your health and freedom!

and before the end of the month too!

That's what I am afraid of too, higher costs. Take Johnson Creek for example, fine juices well packaged and provide the contents on their labels. In addition I'm sure they provide a clean quality environment for producing their juices, As should be yes. But look at their prices even now, $10 for 15ml and $20 for 30ml. If prices are this high before the FDA gets in the game, imagine what they might be like after and that is not even factoring in any additional taxes which I'm sure would follow. We could end up paying $25 for 15ml and $50 for 30ml.

I am in favor of some sort of guidelines and regulations, but I do not want to force these companies to adhere to ridiculously strict testing and production which would increase the prices beyond the need to! And as for the tax, it better not be as criminal as the tobacco taxes!

I suspect that is a crock of ****! I find it hard to believe more people all over the place have requested various candy flavors, they have like hundreds of ridiculous flavors, and only a few tobacco or handful at best. That's hard to believe IMHO

Also I find it ridiculous how some suppliers rate their nic levels at lo medium and high. High issually only 16mg-18mg lol

I know a lot of people that tried ecigs but quickly ran back to analogs because they were lead to believe 4mg is Low 8mg is medium and 16 mg is High. A lot of starter kits come with only 8mg! Like vaping air! I was ready to go back to analogs until I tried 24 mg which is a Light or Medium for me. 36mg is more true to a real full flavor analog for TH and head buzz. So these people try the usual starter kits with 8 to 16mg and think vaping is a joke. They never realize the potential of vaping at all! Pity.

And the flood of candy flavors, dont get me started on that again lol

Im Posting this HERE because this is important to people who want to continue vaping after the fda bs! Hopefully after the court case only the 5 suppliers that got letters are done (witch sucks) and the rest of them will be running business as usual, but we don't know whats going to happen until it happens *fingers crossed* OK, alot of vapers are looking to stock up B4 the **** hits the fan at the end of this month and if you are not made of money like myself and want to stock up for the next 2 years with some quality liquids at a great price I hope this thread helps, SO with the little research I have done thru this forum and just randomly checking supplier sites, Ive found thanks to bobthesalesclerk, Bluemistvaping has 150ml for $25, now thats .16cents a ml, and Madvapes has 50ml for $10.99, now thats .22cents a ml, I suck at math but I think these are accurate numbers, now I found 2 suppliers with some insane prices bcuz alot of places sell it at or around .50cents a ml witch is good if your buying a couple little bottles, ANYWAY **I would appreciate if other members who know of any other DEALS on liquids can post it here** bcuz this will help me and alot of other people to stock up in the next couple of days, so if you know of some other suppliers with some good deals like the 2 listed PLEASE POST THEM HERE to help us stock up for the E Liquid Apocalapse coming real soon. Thank You VT staff and ALL its members!

Welcome to Vapor Talk! If you're leaning towards a 510 you're headed in the right direction IMO. Yes, a lot of the 510s are identical, just rebranded, but some are made by different manufacturers. The Joye 510 and Janty Dura are both made by JoyeTech and are the same thing. Personally, I prefer the Joye products.

1. With a smaller models (cigarette size) you won't get great battery life. The standard Joye 510 battery will last about 2 hours (that was the max for me) between charges. Of coure, that will depend on how much you use it. A 510 starter kit will run you in the $40-$50 range. The Joye eGo, which uses the same 510 attomizer, will run between $60-$80. For the extra $20-$30 you get a battery that will last 8+ hours between charges. The standard 510 is a great model and many people use it happily, just giving you something to think about and many people start with the 510 kit and upgrade to an eGo down the road.

3. The problem with automatic batteries is that there is a small hole in the end so that the censor can detect when you take a drag and activate the battery. If any eliquid leaks into the battery (and the atty will leak from time to time), it will ruin it. That's why most prefer the manual battery. It may seem odd to push a button, but it's really not - you get use to it.

Good luck and feel free to ask any questions you have.

Maybe we can code name a new forum something that never gets banned like bad restaurants or how to make a pipe boomb ... (sp wrong correctly to evade the out of context journalists)

I was being somewhat facetious about this, but nowadays, I guess we can't put anything past our govt. and it's cronies.
A new off-subject forum may be the answer if it comes down to it. Chris has our contact info to invite us to it, I would think
And I will help do what I can.

Chris--You do know--we would do anything necessary to help you.... right??

This is the only place I love to come and hang out--you have worked your A** off the give us such a fantastic forum

Im sure you didnt offend anyone, I'll admit too, he sucks! This whole banning of e cigs is going to turn a lot of people into libertarians, RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT IN 2012! now this guy is standing up for something real!

Ive tried some Johnson Creek juice from a fellow vaper here in wisconsin it was like 2 months ago before I started this forum it was a tobacco I think a flu cured and it was good, I still dont know what the hell JC was thinking putting Chantix in their e liquid, wow that was stupid, no wonder they got hit so hard by the fda, and this juice was probably from 8 or 9 months ago that this person had I couldn't tell it was in there but what was the marketing thought process on doing something like that.

Hi, a belated welcome to the VT Forum! Initially I was drawn to Blu advertising. There was a link to Blu on my analog website that I ordered from. I continued to research e-cigs online and found this forum where ultimately I was able to make an informed choice to go with the Joye510 which simulated analogs. About a month and-a-half into vaping, I purchased a Janty eGo. Not everyone, but many like myself, needed to transition to vaping this way. Everyone has covered many particulars in this thread, and I guess all I would like to add is there are probably more details to master using a pv, i.e, which mod, which accessories, which e-liquid, but the end result will be very much worth it, i.e., feeling better (physically and mentally), feeling richer (less expensive than smoking analogs), and finally, being in a position to help others who haven't heard of this technology and want to stop smoking. I still entertain the thought after a little over three months, hmmmm...I wonder what an analog would taste like now? I guess with any addiction, you don't go there. Instead, I vape up a storm (18mg, RY4). As others have said, don't hesitate to ask questions. There are some very knowledgeable people who have been analog-free for a long time that continue to contribute to the forum. Best of luck!

I'm using a Blu and personally I do like it... now.

I traded the atty that came with the Blu for a Volcano atty and the improvement was noticeable immediately. With the Blu atty I had to take these huge long drags directly into my lungs like you mention, (which admittedly I never could do with an analog) just to get a decent amount of vapor. I ordered the Volcano atty to replace it and I get the same amount of vapor with much less effort and drag.

I can't speak for the carts that come with the Blu, I ordered blank carts (from Volcano) and liquid the same time I ordered the starter kit, and never really gave the prefilled carts a chance. There was a bit of leakage when I first started filling the cart, but once I got the amount of liquid I needed to add figured out I had very little problem with leakage.

Personally, I've never looked back once I got my Blu working the way I wanted it, granted it's only been a few weeks since my last analog. Like anything I think it varies person to person, based on how much of a smoker you were and what kind of experience you're getting out of your ecig now.

I definitely plan on adding another ecig to my collection in the future, but I plan on keeping my Blu still. To each their own.

Welcome!

I started with the Volcano, which is basically a re-labeled Blu. All the problems you're having are completely normal. If I may be blunt and honest, I think it's a terrible product. I'd suggest you get your money back and invest in either a Joye 510 or an eGo. The Blu-type models are incredibly unsatisfying for... well, almost everyone! If you'd like to stick with Blu, then yes, buying your own liquid makes the experience MUCH better. But at the end of the day, the alternatives I mentioned are relatively cheap, and MUCH more satisfying. These can be found in the store here on Vapor Talk.

As for analog cravings, it is completely normal. It's because smokers aren't just addicted to nicotine, but the other chemicals in cigarettes. E-liquid doesn't have these other chemicals, which is GREAT, but your body needs to work out all that analog grossness. Just vape as much as you can, and if it's not doing the job, smoke an analog! And don't feel bad about it. Lots of people, myself included, had to do this. There is no right or wrong way. Smoke an analog and keep trying.

We could always just throw stinky butter at the FDA building.

If you really think about it what were the people who invented the first e cig going to call it other than electronic cigarette because thats exactly what was invented a electrical device that looked like a real cig....idk maybe wrong but I think the first ones to hit the market in china looked like real cigs, you know, white battery and atty, tan cart and red LED with grey looking plastic ash on the end, idk did the penstyle come before this model? I remember seeing a youtube video I think from the fall of 07' in china and they were using a real cig looking one, for the question I also think in the end it dosen't matter anyway, THEY will always want money of off anything whether its saving lives or killing us.

several vip's who switched over also tried to convince him to try one and have sent them to him. So far, he's not interested. He's trying cold turkey... which explains his .... hmmmm..... impatience shall we say.

Hmmmmm,...exploding E cig.......

Keep e-cigs off his radar as much as possible. Doesn't matter how much these things cost to politicians they can afford anything and we'll be seen as an untapped source of revenue. Our government can't stand the thought of a dollar out there untouched by them!

More supplier need to add warnings agree. We require that certified suppliers at least require an 18 and up warning but other than that most suppliers don't add a warning. Our store contains the following and ALWAYS has since the site was opened




It's also part of our terms when a customer checks out. (All customers must agree to the terms) To top that off we also added warning on our bottles (VERY few suppliers have warnings on their bottles) It's time suppliers started to jump on the band wagon already. For their own protection at least.

When it happens or if it happens for right now we should be alright but I think it would be a great idea to start stocking up right now, prepare for the worst and hope for the best, Im placing several large orders within the next week, and lets also remember things like this (court proceedings) take time to go thru so hopefully everything remains the same at least for a few months and not a few weeks

Please note that it is extremely important you are qualified to mix nicotine before purchasing such high nicotine strengths. For legal reasons I Would ask that ANY DIY post be kept only in the DIY section.

Suppliers selling such high strengths is part of the reason this industry needs regulation.

That may be the case but I have a feeling this is big tobacco. I mean what are the chances that Phillip Morris would be doing clinical trials ON THE SAME day that this comes out? Sure perhaps in a couple of years an approved electronic cigarette will be released, but I can tell you right now I'm not buying it from Phillip Morris.