Christopher

If your liquid is pooling on top of the cart filler then yes it is probably time to put in new cart filler, or you can pull it out and rinse it with water. Might be easier to just use a new cart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDg7CiHAPqg&feature=player_embedded

This is probably one of the best and most interesting posts I've read so far on the forums. I have to say I agree with not only your concerns but your point of view as well. The bottom line is, nicotine is a vice pure and simple much like alcohol and caffeine. The good lord never intend that we ingest these toxins however in one way or another we have been introcuded to nicotine and over the years have become sadly Dependant. Essentially the electronic cigarette is a pacifier (or a dummy if your in the UK) for adults, it is what we use to help overcome the every day stress called life. I find it to also be a great past time. It's extremely relaxing.

That all aside I can't agree more that safety is our number once concern. It is for many suppliers, at least the good ones anyway. Why do you think Vapor Talk was one of the first liquid suppliers in the United States to add child proof caps? Because there is a very real threat of a child getting a hold of something that looks like apple juice and smells like a grape. Unfortunately there are some real "winner" parents out there and we as suppliers have to protect their children. You said you where concerned that a child may some day get a hold of juice and drink a bottle, guess what, it's already happened. (Yes you heard correct) I won't say where and what supplier was involved because it's not needed but it's happened. As far as we know, the child is fine. Luckily.

Truth be told liquid bottles in loose form will cease to exist should electronic cigarettes stay on the market for the long run. Everyone will end up using cartomizers. 2 piece units. Why? Because it's a way to not only control the nicotine levels, but it's sealed thus preventing the cotton from falling out, which of course could be eaten by a dog, cat or child.

Quality control is another major issue that is being worked on continuously. Is PG safe to vape? Let's be honest with ourselves we are on the front line of this new invention, although PG is general recognized as safe by the FDA and is used in many products such as baby wipes, vitamins etc it's never been tested in long term vapor form inhaled by humans. Granted there was a study done on monkeys for over a year, which concluded positive effects, but we really don't know the VERY long term effects. Essentially only time will tell. The general common sense assumption is, traditional tobacco is so bad that you could probably smoke tea leaves and still be better off than smoking tobacco leaves.

I think overall this product is a real step forward in helping dependent cigarette users leave traditional tobacco. Leaving nicotine however is not the ecigs best trait. The original designer of the electronic cigarette (who was inspired after his father died of lung cancer) wanted people to quite smoking with the ecig, however the units worked SO well that people instead, just replaced the delivery form. He never intended persons to use PG over a long period of time. Right now it's up to the user to have the self control to step down. Lucky this is happening more and more often, in fact ex smokers now known as vapers are starting to become more health conscious than they ever where before.

We are still in the early phases and so long as we can get the support of government agencys and watch groups we can perfect the electronic cigarette into a true NRT. Something it isn't now. Many people on the board state "I don't want to stop vaping" to me that's the nicotine talking. I think if we could make it as easy to quite as it already is to switch delivery, we could really see some massive health improvements in society. Something I one day hope we altogether can witness.


Anyway I'm getting off course here, awesome post and some very valid points.

OK...update, as I know that you have all been on the edge of your seat waiting to hear from me again. Don't know if you're going to believe this or not, but I just got the first green light on my charger. On another forum someone mentioned cleaning the contacts on the battery and the charger...to plug the charger in to get a green light and then to screw the battery on, turning the light from green to red. Sure...I was at the point that I would try anything. The batt. that I am currently using got that treatment this a.m. and got charged for a while before I had to leave home. This battery kept chuggin along for about 6 hours now. Been waiting for it to die all afternoon. About 3 hours ago when I got home I did that little magic trick on it, put it on the charger and...BINGO...GREEN LIGHT. On top of that Christopher hooked me up with a missing item so right now I not only have green lightage, but I'm direct dripping some very tasty midnight. Good day my friends...good day.

I've been vaping for 21 months and I gave up doing anything to atties over a year ago - because I have found it makes no difference

ha ha this guy really...likes vaping

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBQnASwBGmg

and so the mail box sits along patiently waiting...

Greetings Vape-O-Holics,
I just had to report that you've done it (probably again)! After initially buying a Greensmoke before finding this site, I have just purchased and am anxiously looking forward to the delivery of my EGO! Thanks to the 30 day Money Back Guarantee, Greensmoke will be receiving their less than efficient product back in the mail which will return 1 1/2 times the money I paid for the amazing product I am thankfully about to receive. <yes, it's a bit of a prayer!!!~

This forum, Christopher, and ALL OF YOU rock!!!

thank you, THANK you! THANK YOU!!!

All in good fun

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7652615/

Just replied to your PM. We apologies about that. 3 bottles of Midnight will be sent out tonight

Just replied to your PM. We apologies about that. 3 bottles of Midnight will be sent out tonight

And so the Vapor Talk army is born Nice work

I'll try to make this short. Walking through the mall today with my big blue Ego and as I started to pass the "white cloud" kiosk the guy working there said" what's that? So of course I stopped and showed him. We struck up a conversation about the differences between his units and the Ego. At first he tried to give me the sales talk about how his lasted a long time and all (you know the pitch). So we're talking and vaping and the Ego is just blowing his little device away. He's new to vaping so he's really uninformed except what he's learned for work. Ok...so he's liking the Ego and I put on my 2.0 LR carto filled with Midnight. He has those little condom covers for people to try his stuff with so I let him try my Midnight. He's floored! Then I give him another Ego, this one has Mentha...now he's staggering. One more try with Exotic Tobacco...he's down for the count. Well to wrap this up...after some more talking I've given him back one of his cards with Vaportalk.com written on it. He's going to check us out. Wants to see about the Ego and he's working again Fri. and I should stop bye again for more info. I think I'll take him some sample bottles of Vt juices, that should clinch it. End of story.

p.s. sometimes this is just so much fun. (like shooting fish in a barrel)

Im not an atheist... I believe in God ... but I absolutely do not believe in religion. Religion was invented by man ... the perfect Mafia...

Omerta

Well I think I found a pair for the kid. Hope he gets good use out of them

That blew my mind and I am speechless while lost in thought.

I just wanted to clear up some things.. I am not a guy.. nor am i into scamming people.. Making threats to me only pisses me off enough to make sure My intentions are clear..
They are to help people who can not do it on their own.. I was raised well and I give what I get etc..
Anyway.. thanks for the chance to post here.. i will find another forum where the people honestly give a @#$$ about helping others or even make my own.
Sad how now a days people can not trust others for the wrong few make...
GROW UP.

(Please only post questions OR additional noobie info in here to keep this thread clean. ie: no thank you, good post, etc, posts)

This is to help you play catch up on what the veterans know.

Basic ecig Parts

A.) Cartridge - holds the ejuice and is also a mouth piece. this part can be replaced with a drip tip and is what most do
B.) Atomizer - has an element that heats up the ejuice and as you pull air threw it vapor is produced.
* sub B section - you can also use cartomizers, they are atomizers with filler to hold juice and are a tad shorter in size.
C.) battery - these will be 3.7v Lithium Ion batteries, they supply the power to the atomizer. they come in auto (activated by suction) or manual (activated by button)

Common Ecigs


What's the best ecig
This is more dependent on how you vape and your needs for vapor, throat/lung hit, battery life needs and other factors.
Most people will advise the ego/tornado/riva as they all have a nice battery life and are built good (ego being the favorite of the three)
this is the ego mega and regular batteries with manual buttons


Ecig Model Numbers
These are based on the atomizer they use
when one says 510 kit, they generally are referring to the cigarette shaped ecig. like the first picture of this post.

Why we tell you not to get cigarette shaped ecigs
A cigarette shaped battery runs $12 for a normal manual 510

9hrs at $20 (ego battery) 540mins
45mins (510 kit battery) 540 ÷ 45 = 12
12 (batteries) x $12 = $144

so for mAh (Milliamp hours), it is a lot less expensive to buy a larger battery.
this will also keep you from having to buy more batteries. explained after next set of math.

510 kit batteries needed for 9hrs
9hrs (540mins) ÷ (45min run time + 2hr charge time = 165mins) = 3.272727273 batteries needed to run 9hrs on 510 kit
3 x $12 = $36 - 1 ego battery = $20 = $16 saved. that is initial cost only!!

45min x 2 is what you have ready to go after your first needs charged (90mins).
your first battery is going to take 2hrs to charge so by the time you run out the other two the first is done charging.
so just to keep going you would need at bare minimum you want two 510 chargers, this means more $$.
why you ask? at night when you don't have a single battery to use, you will only be able to charge 1 while you sleep. it would be more ideal to have 3 or one of the larger chargers that do more than one and have no less than 10 batteries ready to go.
on top of this when you go out you will have a pocket full of batteries, making this not a very portable device to bring with you.

other than that you have to recharge more often and the more you charge the more you replace. batteries have an # of recharges before they start failing to keep their charge. now you may say by logic that you are only charging once on those small batteries in that 9hr time, so there isn't an issue on life, BUT, the smaller the battery the less times you can charge it before the failing starts. also consider that you have 3 batteries that will fail

First Order
When you get an ecig make sure that you have spares of everything.
the atomizers, cartomizers, batteries, and juice are all going to need purchased at some point again.
Your first cart should consist of NO LESS than, 5 atomizers, 2 packs of cartomizers (5 in a pack), your kit, 2 extra batteries (i would advise mega batteries), 1 extra charger, and a nice amount of juice.
the last thing you want is to have to wait on something you didn't buy enough of to come in. if one thing is missing you will go right back to smoking, nobody wants that.

Mods and Why
Mods are usually over looked or not even known to noobies of the ecig world.
these devices can be anywhere from 3.7v to 8.4v.
the point is that some people need one of two things, longer battery life with less cost and/or an aggressive throat hit.
as a newbie i wouldn't advise a mod above 3.7v that doesn't have the option to go as low as 4.2v
if it is not a variable voltage you are stuck on that till you get something lower if you don't like it.
i say 4.2v because any 3.7v battery charges UP TO 4.2v. most people love vaping that initial fresh charged battery. voltage drops after usage to as low as 2.9v

Mods will use batteries like these

these are all 3.7v batteries with a much longer charge life vs a kit ecig.
you can find almost all of these batteries from US suppliers for $5 each.
a 3.7v mod using the largest battery (18650) can last you 4+ days @ $8 for the battery.

some mods can last up to 4+ days before needing to be recharged.

I'm not going to go into mods or pictures of mods. you can do that on your own, also watch youtube videos about the mods before thinking its large.
the standard ones people use are
silver bullet
mako
tekk mod (prone to cracking at the top unless you find someone that knows how to make them correctly)
some sort of wetbox (check reviews of these missys wetbox fails quite often due to her under rated buttons and cost $15 to fix)
(there are a crazy amount of mods out there, this is just a small list of the most talked about)

Abbreviations

General

Noob - Beginner
OP - Original Post(er)
Analog - Regular Cigarette
Mod - Homemade device or a Moderator.
Pull - The act of sucking on the mouthpiece to pull the vapor into your mouth
TH - Throat Hit (The tingling sensation in the back of your throat)
Vapor - the "smoke" emitted from an e-cigarette
Vape, Vaping - The use of an e-cigarette (similar to the term "smoking" when referring to an analog)
Topping off - Adding drops of e-liquid to your current cartridge.
Dripping - Vaping by adding a few drops of e-liquid directly on the atomizer instead of using a cartridge.
Dipping - Sticking the bridge of the atomizer in e-liquid.

E-Cigarette

E-cig or E-cigarette - Electronic Cigarette
PV - Personal Vaporizer
Atty - Atomizer
Cart - Cartridge
Bat - Battery
Filler - The fiber found inside your cartridge that holds your e-liquid
PCC - Personal Charging Case
SD - ScrewDriver
JS - Janty Stick
PT - Passthrough or passthrough battery
2-piece/Disposable - 2 part e-cigarette. The Battery and a "cartomizer".
Cartomizer - An atomizer built into the cartridge, marketed as disposable (you throw it away when the e-liquid is used up).
3-piece - 3 part e-cigarette. Battery, Atomizer, and Cartridge.
Cutoff - Refers to how long the battery will activate the atomizer before shutting down (safety measure to protect the atomizer).

E-Liquid

E-juice, e-liquid, juice - the liquid nicotine that you fill your cartridges with.
DIY - Do it yourself (homemade e-liquid mixture)
PG - Propylene Glycol
VG - Vegetable Glycerin(Glycerine = glycerin = vegetable glycerin(e) = glycerol)
PEG - Polylethylene Glycol

Suppliers

VT - Vaportalk
VG - Vaporgalaxy
VB - Vaporbomb
ENS - electronicstix
JC - Johnson Creek
PS - PureSmoker
TW - Totally Wicked
EST - E-smokeytreats
JS - JantyStick
SD - ScrewDriver
GG - The GG!

Miscellaneous

FDA - Food and Drug Administration
ECA - Electronic Cigarette Association
NRT - Nicotine Replacement Therapy (patch, gum, e-cig)
PH - Public Health
BP - Big Pharmaceutical Companies
BT - Big Tobacco Companies
ALF - American Legacy Foundation
'Anti's - Anti-smoking people who do not acknowledge that vaping is a viable alternative to smoking analogs.
RYO - Roll your own (tobacco)

Universal Forum Lingo

AFAIK - As Far As I Know
BTW - By The Way
DOA - Dead On Arrival (didn't work from the moment I got it)
FWIW- For What It's Worth
FYI - For Your Information
IDK - I Don't Know
IIRC - If I Recall/Remember Correctly
IMO or IMHO - In My Opinion or In My Humble Opinion (some mean 'H' to be Honest)
IOW - In Other Words
JK or JJ - Just Kidding or Just Joking
JS - Just Saying
OMG or OMFG - Oh My God and it's adult extension
PITA - Pain In The ***
PWN - Own or "dominate"
ROTFLOL - Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud
ROTFLMFAO - ^ Adult Extension of above
SOL - (can't be helped or fixed)
(SP?) - Used when unsure of the spelling of the previous word
TIA - Thanks In Advance
TMI - Too Much Information (too personal)
TOS - Terms Of Service ("the rules")
TROLL - A person that posts in a forum/thread with the sole intention of provoking an argument (can sometimes also imply a "spy")
TY - Thank You
WOOT - Exclamation, as in Hooray! (Sometimes: Want One Of Those)
WTF - Same As below
WTH - What/Where/Who The Hell
YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (your experience may differ from mine)

A cabbie picks up a Nun. She gets into the cab, and notices that the VERY handsome Cab driver won't stop staring at her. She asks him why he is staring. He replies: "I have a question to ask you but I don't want to offend you." She answers, "My son, you cannot offend me. When you're as old as I am And have been a nun as long as I have, you get a chance to see and Hear just about everything. I'm sure that there's nothing you could Say or ask that I would find offensive." "Well, I've always had a fantasy to have a nun kiss me." She responds, "Well, let's see what we can do about that: #1, you have to be single and #2, you must be Catholic." The cab driver is very excited and says, "Yes, I'm single and Catholic!" "OK" the nun says. "Pull into the next alley." The nun fulfills his fantasy, with a kiss that would Make a hooker blush. But when they get back on the road, the cab driver starts crying. "My dear child," says the nun, "why are you crying?" "Forgive me but I've sinned. I lied and I must confess, I'm married and I'm Jewish." The nun says, "That's OK. My name is Kevin and I'm going to a Halloween party.

With that list your pretty much ready to go. Be sure you purchase a genuine Joye Tech eGo from some of the more well known suppliers. The cheap knock off models don't last very long before they start crapping out

Just to beat the next ten posters to the punch:
Joye ego with a low res atty or low res carto!
Or
You could try a variable voltage mod
like the tekk or joker so you can dial in
the sweet spot to suit your taste.


Dang Brian beat me too it again roflmao

This usually happens when the vapor piles up in the center threading. Finally "popping". It's actually a good thing. (Means it's a good cartomizer) What I do is hold the button on my ecig, wait for the pop then take a draw. Anyone who hangs out with me in video chat knows I always place my ecig by my ear before I inhale, it's because I'm waiting for that pop

At less than $2 each, I find the best place to clean those is the bottom of my trashcan. =)