Christopher

Ecigs to come from China but the profit created does stay in the states. It also helps supports this community and I thank everyone who supports not only Vapor Talk but any US supplier.

US suppliers use the post office which helps keep their job, purchase bags and tape etc which helps someone else keep their job, we pay servers costs which helps some tech keep his job. When you purchase direct sure you save a few bucks but I mean seriously, you where spending far more on cigarettes. But people will choose to do what they do.

I can say that the more customers shop China the harder it is to stay afloat. But hey that's economics. I can say if we have another large seizure or customers keep moving over to the Chinese sites, I've already told my wife I'll step out and shut this place down. Last year we lost so much money I had to cash out my 401k to keep this place afloat.


Someone mentioned "cartomziers are just rebranded.." Well so is your refrigerator, iPod, cellphone computer etc. That's how business works. The difference is that consumers have more information in this industry than others thanks to forums like this. We don't sensor it. Though we could if we wanted to. When you purchase toilet paper for 5 bucks at Wal Mart, trust me, Wal Mart didn't pay more than 1 dollar for that bag. The mark up pays for all the overhead and of course profit.

e liquid that costs a "whopping" 7 bucks and last 3-4 days even longer for some. A pack of cigarette is 6 bucks and lasts maybe a day....

I know some may have been offended by the way VaporNewbie was trying to make his point, but I agree with his actual point. Maybe I feel this way because we live in the same state and have seen our economy become one of the worst in the nation because Americans continue to support foreign business. Our economy here is based so much on manufacturing and automobiles that with people trying to save a few bucks instead of supporting American business, we have fallen on such hard times. I understand that alot of the E-cig industry comes from China and theres just no way around it but I will be more than happy to spend a few extra bucks to buy from American suppliers who not only provide jobs but also put their profits made back into our U.S. economy which in fact also will have a positive effect on others livelyhoods.

Ecigs to come from China but the profit created does stay in the states. It also helps supports this community and I thank everyone who supports not only Vapor Talk but any US supplier.

US suppliers use the post office which helps keep their job, purchase bags and tape etc which helps someone else keep their job, we pay servers costs which helps some tech keep his job. When you purchase direct sure you save a few bucks but I mean seriously, you where spending far more on cigarettes. But people will choose to do what they do.

I can say that the more customers shop China the harder it is to stay afloat. But hey that's economics. I can say if we have another large seizure or customers keep moving over to the Chinese sites, I've already told my wife I'll step out and shut this place down. Last year we lost so much money I had to cash out my 401k to keep this place afloat.


Someone mentioned "cartomziers are just rebranded.." Well so is your refrigerator, iPod, cellphone computer etc. That's how business works. The difference is that consumers have more information in this industry than others thanks to forums like this. We don't sensor it. Though we could if we wanted to. When you purchase toilet paper for 5 bucks at Wal Mart, trust me, Wal Mart didn't pay more than 1 dollar for that bag. The mark up pays for all the overhead and of course profit.

e liquid that costs a "whopping" 7 bucks and last 3-4 days even longer for some. A pack of cigarette is 6 bucks and lasts maybe a day....

This is getting way off topic, My apologies if I offended anyone. I smoke the ego mega, and I enjoy it very much. Maybe I was misunderstood, I would rather support an american vendor for a product even if it costs a little more, than to send my money directly to another country in order to save a few bucks. Having experienced exactly what happens to the guy trying to make a living here, only to get his job outsourced because someone wants to save a few bucks hits home for me. Like I said just my .02.

On another note, Chris have you thought about offering a variety pack of e-liquids? I for one would be interested.

Ecigs to come from China but the profit created does stay in the states. It also helps supports this community and I thank everyone who supports not only Vapor Talk but any US supplier.

US suppliers use the post office which helps keep their job, purchase bags and tape etc which helps someone else keep their job, we pay servers costs which helps some tech keep his job. When you purchase direct sure you save a few bucks but I mean seriously, you where spending far more on cigarettes. But people will choose to do what they do.

I can say that the more customers shop China the harder it is to stay afloat. But hey that's economics. I can say if we have another large seizure or customers keep moving over to the Chinese sites, I've already told my wife I'll step out and shut this place down. Last year we lost so much money I had to cash out my 401k to keep this place afloat.


Someone mentioned "cartomziers are just rebranded.." Well so is your refrigerator, iPod, cellphone computer etc. That's how business works. The difference is that consumers have more information in this industry than others thanks to forums like this. We don't sensor it. Though we could if we wanted to. When you purchase toilet paper for 5 bucks at Wal Mart, trust me, Wal Mart didn't pay more than 1 dollar for that bag. The mark up pays for all the overhead and of course profit.

e liquid that costs a "whopping" 7 bucks and last 3-4 days even longer for some. A pack of cigarette is 6 bucks and lasts maybe a day....

Ecigs to come from China but the profit created does stay in the states. It also helps supports this community and I thank everyone who supports not only Vapor Talk but any US supplier.

US suppliers use the post office which helps keep their job, purchase bags and tape etc which helps someone else keep their job, we pay servers costs which helps some tech keep his job. When you purchase direct sure you save a few bucks but I mean seriously, you where spending far more on cigarettes. But people will choose to do what they do.

I can say that the more customers shop China the harder it is to stay afloat. But hey that's economics. I can say if we have another large seizure or customers keep moving over to the Chinese sites, I've already told my wife I'll step out and shut this place down. Last year we lost so much money I had to cash out my 401k to keep this place afloat.


Someone mentioned "cartomziers are just rebranded.." Well so is your refrigerator, iPod, cellphone computer etc. That's how business works. The difference is that consumers have more information in this industry than others thanks to forums like this. We don't sensor it. Though we could if we wanted to. When you purchase toilet paper for 5 bucks at Wal Mart, trust me, Wal Mart didn't pay more than 1 dollar for that bag. The mark up pays for all the overhead and of course profit.

e liquid that costs a "whopping" 7 bucks and last 3-4 days even longer for some. A pack of cigarette is 6 bucks and lasts maybe a day....

You are so correctJolly.


And I truly appreciate you, and people like Chris, who are taking the many risks involved in providing us with such good products.

We need more young entrepreneurs such as yourself, and a government that is willing to allow you to contribute.

whats the diffrence with these 2 cartos in the hit ?

the boge 2.0 and the bog 3.0

the pros and cons i guess ?

what pack should i order and why?

thanks guys your always helpful!!

While the c-cig is a chinese invention, all of the big innovation has come from the u.s.. You can order from china, but the complications are endless. Your supplies might be seized in customs, your supplier might be forcibly nationalized-- Not likely, but hey...

To which college do you have to go in order to receive your Associate's Degree in emoticons? I think everyone around here is as least in the Master's Program...

Smiley is all i got

the tank is so nice...congrats 2 u. I got mine also

Um, I am not sure that the Greensmoke is a KR808, but then again, I am not sure of a lot!

I thought based on the link below Greensmoke is a E9 and that is compatiable with an KR808D-2 (which is where my confusion sets in the D-2 part)

Compatibility chart link

Go ahead and fill out a support ticket, send in the old atomizers and I'll replace them.

Thank you so much for the addresses and the letter, which I edited a bit to make it more personal. I sent my email off just a moment ago.

While I don't live in Tennessee, I do have a very close friend who is like a sister to me that I'm trying to get to switch over to the E-cigs because she is sounding worse and worse as time passes from her smoking analogs. I do hope she will eventually make the switch.

If anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate it: My friend, my best friend and practically my sister, has tried my e-cigarette when she came in for a visit. I have the Ego E-Cig now. I began with a Janty Dura-C, then moved to the Janty Stick, and now the Ego. This past week, I finally had the money to get one of the cone atomizers with the T-tank cartridges, which I find sooooooo convenient. It's great not to have to constantly drip every few minutes or so.

I have had my friend/surrogate sister give my Ego a try; however, it seems as if it has too much of a throat hit to it. My daughter seems to have the same problem but you have to take into account my daughter has only been smoking for the last several months now and she only smokes about 3 cigarettes a day and those are ultra-lights - or rather they were. She and her new husband have both ordered the Ego E-Cigarette. I sent them with samples of e-liquid I've received and tried in order to keep them in some liquid as they are still catching up on everything as well as trying to finish furnishing the home they have together now. She was at college and her new husband was at home with his mother so they have rather bare walls but they do have plenty of furniture thanks to donations from our family (her father's family and me; I'm estranged from my parents to the point where our youngest child believes my birth father to be dead when in truth, he is an abusive alcoholic who refuses to stop drinking. I've heard his days are numbered as the alcohol has now caused cirrhosis of the liver on top of heart problems - also brought on by his excessive drinking. Normally, I do not believe in lying to my children; however, I believe it's kinder for our youngest to believe/presume my father is dead than to realize he's alive yet won't get sober and stay that way in order to be a part of the lives of his grandchildren; I raised my younger brother for most of his life & brought him home with me after a legal guardianship agreement went into place when he was a few years from being a teenager; I got him out as soon as I was able as our birth parents were physically violent toward each other and our birth father was physically violent toward us too though I did pick fights to redirect his attention to me so he would leave my brother alone as hew as not strong enough to have managed to survive those years of bruises, cuts from cords used to beat on me, and it goes without saying he would never have handled the pain from spiral fractures and outright broken bones when the booze was so thick in that b*stard's head he didn't care if he broke bones or not. I fear if I had not stepped in all those years, my little brother might have contemplated suicide, which I would never have been able to deal with emotionally... so for the greater good, I keep the little white lie going. It is only a matter of time before that man will be dead and buried. He's making it too easy to get there. I do believe the day he's dead, I will feel completely and totally safe for the first time in my life and I'm sure my brother will feel the same.) But I digress...

Is there a way for my daughter and my surrogate sister/best friend to use the e-cigs without getting so much of a throat hit? My e-liquid generally stays around 24mg w/extra flavoring in the exotic flavors from My Freedom Smokes though I do have a separate bottle of liquid I use with a heavier nic dose in it to handle the heavy craving times such as upon waking (well if I slept it would be upon waking but I have chronic insomnia and have for as many years as I can remember), after meals, before bed (or resting as I don't sleep), and when out with friends when we go out to have drinks together as well as at family functions over the holidays. It was odd this past year that I wasn't smoking a tobacco cigarette at our family get-together for Thanksgiving! I had my e-cigarette but still, it felt funny because I have a BIL, DH's uncle, and a nephew who all smoke so it felt strange not having to go outside as the BIL's house where we had Thanksgiving does not smoke nor do they allow smoking in the house so we were always banished to the porch or the fire pit fireplace out back to get our smoke on, so to speak but with the e-cigarette, I was welcome to vape indoors. My SILs, both of them, could not believe the pleasant smell from the vapor as I use marshmallow flavor as my staple but I do have other flavors like sweet apple, cream, vanilla, black cherry, regular cherry, etc... Even my DH who used to piss me off, esp after he gave up dipping Skoal after he had an abscess he SWORE was cancer and I assured him it wasn't (I was right, it was just a canker-type sore on his tongue toward the back where he'd bit the area in his sleep making it look so bad) but you couldn't tell him anything. He stopped dipping then jumped down my throat for smoking and the fact I wouldn't go outside to smoke. I was adamant about the fact that I PAID THE MORTGAGE and I WASN'T ABOUT TO GET PNEUMONIA FROM STANDING OUTSIDE IN THE FREEZING WEATHER, INCLUDING RAIN, ICE, OR SNOW FOR ANYBODY - NOT EVEN HIM! He's come through our front door for several yrs with the same BS statement of, "Is something burning or on fire in here? It smells like something's burning?" I'd be so pissed by then that I'd tell him that yes there was something burning and it was my cigarettes and if he didn't like it he could turn right around and go back to his Mommy's house to live if that's how he felt! I'm sure she'd take care of him; she has for the last 40+ years so she might as well do so until she's dead and then he'd have to grow up or die with her. I know it sounds ugly but when you hear that day after day after day and you can't leave home b/c you can't see well enough to walk let alone to drive and you have no license because of an eye disease, there's no way to blow off all that steam other than getting into an argument until one of us left the house, which was generally him. I'd been me if I had been able to drive. I'd gladly have switched houses with his mother so she could move here and I'd move into her house with our daughter. Our house is much larger than her house but the payments are a bit lower so they could have lived in our house happily ever after for all I cared.

He sniped about the e-cigarette until he couldn't smell it. Then (we share the same doctor, btw) our doctor jumped down his throat with both feet after having been treating me for months after I began using the e-cig (I have monthly Lupus (SLE) and Sjogren's check ups) and told him to shut up and stop bitching because the smoker's cough was gone and I had no rattling or wheezes in my chest. In fact, he said and continues to say that my lungs sound like someone who has never smoked in their life now. I will celebrate my 2nd anniversary of sorts off the analog cigarettes July 7th, 2011. I think that's pretty good and without the bad side effects, I don't have to stop vaping. I gave up so much when I got sick and I lost three separate careers I thoroughly enjoyed because of my health conditions; I can't go out to a bar without a ride with friends and nowadays, our friends are married with children like we have and there's little to no time and even little to no money to go out for drinks over the weekend when we can afford a sitter so I'm stuck behind 4 walls every day with no company except the dog and cat until our 14yo comes homes and while I love her with all my heart, there is only so much of a conversation someone can have with a 14yo.... My surrogate sister/best friend lives in Tennessee, which is why I put my email to use because if I can get her to make the switch, perhaps she can get her husband to make the switch too, which will do wonders for them because even though they don't smoke in the house, there is smoke smell on their clothes and they have a younger son, their 2nd and last child, who was born severely premature, born with heart problems, and has undergone about 5 or 6 surgeries to correct his heart though there is only so much modern medicine can do... He will live with a heart condition for the rest of his life and the smell of smoke does bother him even though they don't smoke inside. If I can get them to switch, it will be great for his parents, of that I have no doubt but even more so, it will be even greater for the son with the heart condition. I just need to figure out how to lower the throat hit to get my friend ON the e-cigarette and keep my daughter and SIL using the e-cigarettes.

I've already explained that they didn't need to inhale the vapor because they will still get the nicotine as if they inhaled as one does with an analog cigarette. I don't know what else to add to help. It just came naturally to me.

I'm glad to have helped and hope it helps and it works for those in Tennessee and any ideas on how to help my friend (who lives in TN btw, as well as my daughter) is greatly appreciated.

Paise

As a vape'r myself I want to help stop any bans like this regardless of the state which it might be in question. Being a TN resident I am absolutely on board with spamming the crap out of these guys about this issue. My main concern is where is this coming from? Someone before posted a similar question and Id like to see someone dig in to it more and find where the aggression towards pv's is coming from. If we could find definitive answers to that we could have better ammunition for fighting the bans, I could just be behind on news since i dont make it on the forums enough so just let me know if i am missing anything, If not and anyone has any knowledge or means of uncovering more information please let us know!

Also when you send your emails add read receipts and follow up on them if you can. Some of my emails have shown deleted without being read!

Go ahead and fill out a support ticket, send in the old atomizers and I'll replace them.

e-mail sent

That is unusual. I can assure they are Joye Tech. Remember we where the first ones to start calling out other suppliers on fakes. (We got a lot of flack for it too) I'd never risk our reputation to save a couple of bucks. I'd rather be out of stock for 2 weeks than carry low quality product.

The center pole is the tiny circular metal piece located inside the portion of the battery that holds the atomizer. (where all the liquid usually piles up) It normally has a white/tan rubber ring underneath it. The outside of the atomizer holder is negative. That tiny little center pole is the positive portion. The rubber ring is there to stop any shorts. Every so often that center pole drops to low. It's caused from the screwing the atomizers on too tight. You can take a very small pair of pliers or ever better a pair of tweezers and pull up on it.

Also if your using anything other than 3.7v there is a higher chance the atomizer will pop. Getting a month + on high voltage is just lucky Atomizers where only designed to last a few weeks. The fact that Joye techs usually last longer is primarily because they are better made.

That is unusual. I can assure they are Joye Tech. Remember we where the first ones to start calling out other suppliers on fakes. (We got a lot of flack for it too) I'd never risk our reputation to save a couple of bucks. I'd rather be out of stock for 2 weeks than carry low quality product.

The center pole is the tiny circular metal piece located inside the portion of the battery that holds the atomizer. (where all the liquid usually piles up) It normally has a white/tan rubber ring underneath it. The outside of the atomizer holder is negative. That tiny little center pole is the positive portion. The rubber ring is there to stop any shorts. Every so often that center pole drops to low. It's caused from the screwing the atomizers on too tight. You can take a very small pair of pliers or ever better a pair of tweezers and pull up on it.

Also if your using anything other than 3.7v there is a higher chance the atomizer will pop. Getting a month + on high voltage is just lucky Atomizers where only designed to last a few weeks. The fact that Joye techs usually last longer is primarily because they are better made.

This is probably one of the best and most interesting posts I've read so far on the forums. I have to say I agree with not only your concerns but your point of view as well. The bottom line is, nicotine is a vice pure and simple much like alcohol and caffeine. The good lord never intend that we ingest these toxins however in one way or another we have been introcuded to nicotine and over the years have become sadly Dependant. Essentially the electronic cigarette is a pacifier (or a dummy if your in the UK) for adults, it is what we use to help overcome the every day stress called life. I find it to also be a great past time. It's extremely relaxing.

That all aside I can't agree more that safety is our number once concern. It is for many suppliers, at least the good ones anyway. Why do you think Vapor Talk was one of the first liquid suppliers in the United States to add child proof caps? Because there is a very real threat of a child getting a hold of something that looks like apple juice and smells like a grape. Unfortunately there are some real "winner" parents out there and we as suppliers have to protect their children. You said you where concerned that a child may some day get a hold of juice and drink a bottle, guess what, it's already happened. (Yes you heard correct) I won't say where and what supplier was involved because it's not needed but it's happened. As far as we know, the child is fine. Luckily.

Truth be told liquid bottles in loose form will cease to exist should electronic cigarettes stay on the market for the long run. Everyone will end up using cartomizers. 2 piece units. Why? Because it's a way to not only control the nicotine levels, but it's sealed thus preventing the cotton from falling out, which of course could be eaten by a dog, cat or child.

Quality control is another major issue that is being worked on continuously. Is PG safe to vape? Let's be honest with ourselves we are on the front line of this new invention, although PG is general recognized as safe by the FDA and is used in many products such as baby wipes, vitamins etc it's never been tested in long term vapor form inhaled by humans. Granted there was a study done on monkeys for over a year, which concluded positive effects, but we really don't know the VERY long term effects. Essentially only time will tell. The general common sense assumption is, traditional tobacco is so bad that you could probably smoke tea leaves and still be better off than smoking tobacco leaves.

I think overall this product is a real step forward in helping dependent cigarette users leave traditional tobacco. Leaving nicotine however is not the ecigs best trait. The original designer of the electronic cigarette (who was inspired after his father died of lung cancer) wanted people to quite smoking with the ecig, however the units worked SO well that people instead, just replaced the delivery form. He never intended persons to use PG over a long period of time. Right now it's up to the user to have the self control to step down. Lucky this is happening more and more often, in fact ex smokers now known as vapers are starting to become more health conscious than they ever where before.

We are still in the early phases and so long as we can get the support of government agencys and watch groups we can perfect the electronic cigarette into a true NRT. Something it isn't now. Many people on the board state "I don't want to stop vaping" to me that's the nicotine talking. I think if we could make it as easy to quite as it already is to switch delivery, we could really see some massive health improvements in society. Something I one day hope we altogether can witness.


Anyway I'm getting off course here, awesome post and some very valid points.

Yup go with the eGo. Because of it's long battery life there is no need for a walking charger case. The models that need the charging case only stay charged for about 2 hours max. The ego however, will stay charged for upwards of 12 hours.

I hate people like that. Luckily for me I have one grump a** "I'm not in the mood" looking face. All the time. When I do vape indoors (which I try not to) I can tell they want to say something but the look on my face is enough for them to put their head back down where it belongs.

8 months I've been vaping at work. Today at work I'm doing it in the break room. Instead of someone approaching me and asking me what it is they run to HR. I explain what it is. I'm told I can't do in the buidling now. Bite me! I'm doing it and discretely. Nobody will be the wiser.

First time I've ever heard of it mentioned. I've never heard or seen any reports.

I suppose the best compliant I could ever have is being out of stock

Believe me I'm loosing hair by the day. I cant even describe to you how frustrated we are. We had one liquid shipment due in around the 16th, it's been sitting in customs ever since. So now we have to wait for another production run (which is happening as we speak) Chinese New Year tends to put a damper on things

We do have hardware that is due to arrive Tuesday/Wednesday. That shipment contains, Black eGos, atomizers, silver eGos, Revolution kits, KR808 atomizers filled and empty. We've even got Joye Sticks on the way.

I do apologize and I know it's frustrating but I'm working night and day on China's you know what ensuring our shipments are hurried along as fast as possible