Mirage Posted March 13, 2015 Author Share Posted March 13, 2015 I have 3 better pictures that I was going to post lastnight but the new mobile site seemed to be running very slow. Now this morning I'm seeing the old version again and cant uploade photos again. When Christopher gets everything straight with the update I will post them...Or if anybody would like, PM me your cell number and I'll text them to you and you can post them here for me... One pic shows the cut on his hand but it's "NOT" bloody, the next one shows the piece of the mod w/tank stuck in the ceiling and the last one shows all the pieces and battery sitting on a table... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOKER Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 these came to me from Mirage via txt.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOKER Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 looks to me like somebody should of saved their tax refund money.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted March 13, 2015 Author Share Posted March 13, 2015 Thanks for the help Hooker! I really appreciate it! I'm glad I spent my tax refund "after" joining this group and doing a lot of research... Tam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillBlack Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) AW 18650 Battery (old version) - low amp rating, NOT DESIGNED FOR coils BELOW 1OHM LIKE IN THE Atlantis. Due to the internal chemistry these batteries will vent gas and not explode if shorted Moronism. The only red, old version, AW I know of is the AW IMR18650/1600mAh cell rated at an accurate 24A continuous discharge. A true, pure IMR and one of the safest batteries made. https://youtu.be/haMDZOfjqsE?t=1m48s BTW TrustFire also makes red IMR18650s. Edited March 13, 2015 by WillBlack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gag8tor Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Never buy batteries with fire in their name. Earthling789 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonculp Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) I guess we need to send @TugBoat to check on his neighbor down there. I saw this on the Lubbock news said he wanted $1,000,000.00 for medical bills and missed work. http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/03/11/arlington-man-sets-crotch-on-fire-sues-vape-shop-over-exploding-e-cig-battery/ He apparently put a loose battery in his pocket...and it is the vape shop's fault, and the manufacturer. I got a piece of screwdriver in my arm trying to use it as a chisel...can I sue snap-on? Edited March 13, 2015 by jasonculp Tam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling789 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I guess we need to send @TugBoat to check on his neighbor down there. I saw this on the Lubbock news said he wanted $1,000,000.00 for medical bills and missed work. http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/03/11/arlington-man-sets-crotch-on-fire-sues-vape-shop-over-exploding-e-cig-battery/ He apparently put a loose battery in his pocket...and it is the vape shop's fault, and the manufacturer. I got a piece of screwdriver in my arm trying to use it as a chisel...can I sue snap-on? Top comment says it all... it's NOT an e-cig battery... it is a high-drain INDUSTRIAL cell, the same type/style used in industrial battery packs for laptops, cordless power-tools, flashlights, etc. etc. etc.... it's not the manfacuters fault if he stuck it in his pocket with loose change or his keys, where it could short-out. Sure, the battery may have been a cheap-o, but improper storage/transport is HIS fault! There should be a law banning the existence of lawyers People have the right to be stupid, but they also have the right to be branded as stupid... this guy has his brand/marks to prove it.... Tam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compenstine Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Why was it not in a case? Did he have change in that pocket... Keys? This is why you "Don't" carry a battery like this in your pocket without a case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonculp Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) I am totally ashamed that this guy is a Texan. I can't believe this is even going to court. The news makes very little mention of how it happened. If you are not familiar with these products you would just think that he was carrying a standard "e-cigarette". Do you think Autozone is going to pay you if you take the battery out of your car and dump the acid on yourself? I guess stranger things have happened and their liability insurance will probably pay out for some undisclosed amount, and the black eye will stay on the Vaping community and this Vape Shop. Edited March 14, 2015 by jasonculp HOOKER and Earthling789 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling789 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 You probably nailed it Jason... The vape-shop owner will contact a lawyer, and they'll tell them to settle out of court for $10K and his medical bills because vaping is a "fledgeling" industry and there are no precedents to cover the shop. And everyone wonders why our insurance costs for home/auto/life keep skyrocketing!! Sadly, there are precedents of people using a product improperly... stupidity has a price... this guy paid it, and just wants someone to give him a winning lottery ticket... and, since the shop doesn't have the logo for Toyota or Ford or IBM or Pfizer, or DOW or [insert big company name here] on their building, they won't be able to fight it with a team of million-dollar law-firms behind them. So, yet another stupid person (who isn't so stupid they can't hire a cut-throat ambulance-chaser) will get another lottery win, compliments of our legal system. HOOKER and jasonculp 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillBlack Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Never buy batteries with fire in their name. Used them for many years as have many long time vapers. Actually when it comes to actually documented 18650 fires, explosions, and failures never buy batteries with Sony in their name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeF Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I have watched this news report several times and every time that I do I think, "Boy that firefighter that is being interviewed sound very dumb.". This gives the impression that everyone in CA is stupid, not that I believe that to be the case. Looking at the story the facts are flawed if none present at all, except that a mod blew up. I sent a message to the news station that reported it about my frustration that they can't report on something without knowing about what they are reporting on. It really infuriates me that the news does this all the time. In the message I sent I tried to inform them about youtube and all the great reviewer that have good knowledge. The fact that is was not a e-mod-cigarette, but a personal vaporizer. That you cannot smoke one. There is no combustion happening and everything that we already know and understand about our devices. My rant to them was more in the lines of educate yourself before you embarrass yourself. HOOKER, Tam and Earthling789 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gag8tor Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Very good work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwick Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 This was about the guy in Santa Ana, CA right? Regardless of location, the problem was not the battery he was using (although under different circumstances and accurate naming of the popped battery it could be). The problem here was that he was using a tank on a hybrid style mechanical. I'm sure you've all seen them and that some of you own one yourselves. I do. But the top cap holds no center pin (for those of you who don't know), only a hole that leads to direct contact with the positive side of the battery. When this happened, it was because he he was using a tank. the contact on tanks is often flush with the actual threaded portion that surrounds it. Now, when using a normal regulated device or even a mechanical that HAS a center pin, this is not an issue. The pin will hit just the contact and not the surrounding threads. When you put it into a hybrid device, all parts of that hit the positive on the battery. The contact AND the threads connect and cause a hard short because only the contact is designed to come in contact with a positive. Moral of the story here is when using anything with a hybrid style connection, make sure that your atomizer has a contact that protrudes from the threads and is not flush with the threaded 510. Also, whenever a battery vents and causes any kind of damage, the media paints it as a battery that "exploded". We all know that the media is going to take any chance they have to jab at our industry and paint us as adrenaline junkies who like to live fast and edgy. Sorry I was late on this one. I haven't been around since wednesday for many reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FXRich Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 If I want big clouds I guess I could soak the air cleaner on my bike with VG and fire it up. Lucky I'm not a cloud chaser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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