Walt

I work with a girl who's SO became deathly ill "due to vaping". (When I questioned her, she admitted that it was black market THC her SO was vaping EXCLUSIVELY for a week, when she became ill and then CONTINUED TO VAPE THE STUFF!) Some of the other employees were blasting vaping on the spot because of this person's illness. So I posed the question, "ok, if vaping as a whole is responsible, why am I not ill or dead? I've been vaping for nearly 6 years." The room got totally silent. Then I explained, that I KNOW what's in my juice, because I make my own. What they NEED to be upset about is WHAT this person vaped and WHERE they got it, NOT with vaping as a whole. A few of the employees actually apologized, stating, if they had known that there was black market/tainted juice out there and that could have been the cause of the illness, they would have kept their mouths shut. I just reminded them there is  always more to every situation than just what you hear/see on the surface, get the facts before you blow off steam.

I read another article just today about a high school girl who became very ill after vaping. She at least admitted that she sometimes used THC cartridges... but it was only rarely.
I'm with you, @Bebop. I, too, think the numbers are fudged, it's more likely to be something along the lines of 95% vaped THC and 5% were from other previous health issues. My numbers are much more likely, but that's just my opinion.

The latest CDC report
 
26 dead and 1200 ill.
but then they say only 75% confirmed THC. 
so, what, the other 25% are liars?......
of course, I'm being facetious, I have no doubt that some of the deaths may have involved vapers with pre-existing health issues and were nowhere near THC. 
but I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers are fudged here.  I just watched a news interview with a couple who's college age daughter got I'll "by vaping" - 5 minutes of the girl's parents professing the innocence of their sweet little girl and when the interviewer pressed further, "oh well, there was that one time when we caught her vaping THC but we believe her that she is not doing it now"......right.....
I don't want it to seem like I have no sympathy for these people who are actually suffering from this.  I do.  It's a terrible tragedy. 
But the truth will set us free (get ti the bottom if this).  Is that too much to ask? 

https://www.leafly.com/news/industry/california-vape-maker-kushy-punch-caught-making-illegal-products
California vape maker Kushy Punch caught making illegal products
On that note, here's an article about one California vape company that's licensed making and selling unlicensed THC product and pushing it out the back door.

California is much like Michigan in that regard.  It's appaling.  I'm glad to be leaving.  I've been here my whole life and I love the state but it's politics are out of control now and it's entirely too far left for my moderate tastes.  I feel a great deal of sympathy for those who may have benefitted from the vaping movement and will now likely struggle.  The push to drive it underground  will no doubt create tragedies to come.  I will help as many others as I can, but geez, the bureaucracy is reactionary and misguided.  pisses me off too. 😀

When Michigan gets 2.1 billion dollars a year from the master tobacco settlement, sin taxes, and of course campaign donations while cigarette smoking is at it's lowest ever, the mystery becomes pretty clear.  Add to that that Michigan issued bonds against anticipated master tobacco agreement income, and is, as always hurting for money.  I'm not freaking out but I'm madder than a hornet. I've watched numerous "hearings" and they are paid political propaganda.  Cherry picked panel members as well as politicians putting on a B rate movie.  Hardly a thread of truth in the entire production.  One panelist with a prefix Dr. called the U.K. Royal College of Physicians a couple doctors sitting around making unfounded decisions.  The FDA is bumbling around obviously incapable of drafting even final guidelines.  The CDC is obviously under pressure to support the political stance on vaping.  Our president sites pillow talk as his decision to ban flavors.  Insane!!  Maniacally Insane!!!  Mass media jumps in singing the same song.  No wonder, every other commercial is from big pharma who has a vested interest in seeing vaping disappear. 
 
Tomorrow I have more nicotine and flavor concentrates coming in.  Soon I will be set for the rest of my lifetime.  In the big picture that does nothing for the countless people who will go back to analogs, the black market that will fill the void, the people who will never have the opportunity to try vaping.  These decisions will kill.  Good for the government as the average smoker dies 10 years sooner than the non smoker and will not be collecting social security or medicare.  Leave it to the government.  This time their taking a health crisis that was created by the black market and driving an industry deeper into that black market.  And I'm sure the black market will do a better job of checking I.D.'s.  

When Michigan gets 2.1 billion dollars a year from the master tobacco settlement, sin taxes, and of course campaign donations while cigarette smoking is at it's lowest ever, the mystery becomes pretty clear.  Add to that that Michigan issued bonds against anticipated master tobacco agreement income, and is, as always hurting for money.  I'm not freaking out but I'm madder than a hornet. I've watched numerous "hearings" and they are paid political propaganda.  Cherry picked panel members as well as politicians putting on a B rate movie.  Hardly a thread of truth in the entire production.  One panelist with a prefix Dr. called the U.K. Royal College of Physicians a couple doctors sitting around making unfounded decisions.  The FDA is bumbling around obviously incapable of drafting even final guidelines.  The CDC is obviously under pressure to support the political stance on vaping.  Our president sites pillow talk as his decision to ban flavors.  Insane!!  Maniacally Insane!!!  Mass media jumps in singing the same song.  No wonder, every other commercial is from big pharma who has a vested interest in seeing vaping disappear. 
 
Tomorrow I have more nicotine and flavor concentrates coming in.  Soon I will be set for the rest of my lifetime.  In the big picture that does nothing for the countless people who will go back to analogs, the black market that will fill the void, the people who will never have the opportunity to try vaping.  These decisions will kill.  Good for the government as the average smoker dies 10 years sooner than the non smoker and will not be collecting social security or medicare.  Leave it to the government.  This time their taking a health crisis that was created by the black market and driving an industry deeper into that black market.  And I'm sure the black market will do a better job of checking I.D.'s.  

Everybody who thinks banning flavors is going to end this medical crisis raise your hands!
 
.....yeah,  I thought so.😁

Banning flavors... yeah, because prohibition worked so well in the past.       

Banning flavors.....yeah,  because, you know,  vaping strawberry cream just doesn't hit the spot like a good ol' Lucky Strike!!

Hey All!
Its been a while since Ive been on VT. Happy Memorial Day.
Now it 3 years since my last cigarette and yeppers, I'm still vaping.
Hope y'all are doing fantastic!

Hi, long time no see! Hope life's been treating you well.
As of May 10th, it's been 7 years for me. Can't believe it's been that long. 

Hey! Hoping everyone is having a good holiday.
I'm 5+ years tobacco free and feeling good about that! I never thought I'd ever kick that nasty habit but thanks to vaping I did.
 

@Walt is giving you some good information. To add a little more of the... less scientific kind, I would tell you that if you find yourself chain vaping (vaping continuously), then I'd go up a little on your nicotine level until you hit something more comfortable so you only take a couple of hits and can put it down for a while.

Hi Tam!
Yes, it's still every bit as disgusting...BUT,   half of the "smokers" were vapers so, some consolation.   I've sort of forgotten what it's like to be around smokers.  Everyone in my circles has either quit or converted to vaping. 

Back in the day when I was sill smoking I had a lay over there. The smoker's lounge was a smelly mess then, I can't imagine how bad it would be now. They need to give all the walls a good scrubbing, the ceiling tiles replaced, and the carpet a shampoo several times over and put in a better ventilation system to draw the smoke out.
Nice seeing you again, Bebop!

Have a good holiday weekend Bebop!

It is SO wrong I have to use the smokers lounge here at Vegas airport.
 
nasty!   I'm not one of them!!  (anymore, haha)
 
How everybody has a great holiday weekend.
 
 
Mike

I agree with both @cany and @VapeMama but be prepared to have to do some trial and error.  For me it was a little like going to the doctor.  Pretty good but now I have this going on.  Change prescription.  You get the drift.  And then there's the "oh look, something new!"  In search of the ultimate vape!  Wonderful hobbie if you look at it like that.  Like @cany, I would be embarrassed if I divulged how many mods, atties, and juices I have went through and or have.  Regardless, it brings me a lot of joy both in the activity and knowing I'm not on analogs any longer.  

First of all, welcome to VT!
I agree with @cany. Find a vape store, ask questions and more questions!
My first set up was an Ego pen 5+ years ago, and now have a variety of devices I use.

Im new here.
Be3n vaping for about 4 years.

The best I have found for cleaning coils, and tanks is a sonic cleaner.

Bravo!  and Welcome!  This is the place to draw from the experience of other vapors for sure.  

And congratulations 2U2!