Adversarious1
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1 minute ago, Tam said:
What's wrong with these Panasonics, Adversarious? I use them in my mods, but then I use 1.8 ohm coils with them.
@Tam at your 1.8 ohms you are fine because you aren't drawing many amps. Are you using them in regulated or unregulated mods? As @FXRich mentioned, the continuous discharge rate is very low. You can use a coil that is as low as .5 ohms, but not for very long. There will be considerable performance drop-off. Also, the OP mentioned they were given to him, so they likely weren't new and likely aren't performing at peak specs. Better safe than sorry in my opinion, especially when it comes to unregulated mech mods. I don't want to see another news story of an e-cig exploding because they are "dangerous" when it was probably user error due to a build too low for the batteries to handle safely. I don't even build lower than .5 ohms in my RDA's when I'm using them on my mechs mods with Samsung or LG batteries.
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@Christopher beat me to it (almost ). Those are Panasonic NCR18650B batteries. I have three words: Get New Batteries. Even with the 3400 mah (actually tested closer to 3200 mah) they are only rated by the company at something like 6.5 amps. They were tested closer to 4.9 amps. I personally wouldn't even use those batteries in the tactical flashlight on my AR-15.
I recommend any of the batteries I mentioned in my initial response. There are others as well, but those batteries are all definitely good to go. After you get new batteries, either I or another member can give a better explanation of what would be a safe build with an unregulated mod.
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Just now, CTrail said:
I have a question about that ohms i should be running. The mod i have is a dual 18650 parallel mech mod (mod attached in a picture). All these ohms calculators and guides are pretty confusing to me and i was hoping someone could give me a good rages of safe ohms i can run. Thanks!
Specifically what batteries are you using? Brand and model (for example LG HG2, Samsung 25R, Sony VTC5)?
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I use primarily Flavor West and Capella because both companies are local to me and I can get them direct. (Flavor West is more local than Capella, but Capella isn't far from where I work.) The Capella fruit flavors I have used are really good.
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1 hour ago, Uncivil11 said:
Aww heck I reread got it backwards.
Low ohms more vapor less flavor. High watts more vapor less flavor. With lower ohms you need less wattage for similar vapor and flavor? But possibly a cooler vapor?
Sent from my iPad using TapatalkYou almost have it. You are associating ohms with flavor and watts with vapor. It's like comparing apples with oranges. Both are fruit, but they provide different flavors and different vitamins.
Higher resistance (higher ohms) + lower wattage = more flavor (in a VERY general sense. There is MUCH more to it than coil resistance and the power you are using.)
Lower resistance (lower ohms) + Higher wattage = more vapor (again, in a VERY general sense. There is more to producing vapor than just plopping in a .15 coil and cranking the watts up to 125.
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1 hour ago, Edna said:
@Adversarius1
Well put as always! thank you!
Did the baby beast come with the RBA deck? or, did you have to order it?
The Baby Beast and the Big Baby do not come with RBA decks. The Cloud Beast comes with two coils (The large version of the T8 and the large version of the Q4. The new TFV12 Cloud Beast King will be available with two options: The tank and three different factory coils OR the tank and the RBA deck, but it won't be available with both the factory coils and the RBA deck. I'm sure you'll be able to purchase the RBA deck seperately, though.
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16 hours ago, Uncivil11 said:
So I look up information on coils. All given for the same tank what type of difference should I see with the different resistances? Right now I have a couple baby beasts and the current is .4 coils. What should I expect for higher and lower?
Never fear, the apparent resident expert is here. (Those are other people's assertions, not mine. I just happen to love the TFV8 line of tanks and have done a lot of research on them).
Before I go into detail with an answer to your questions, I'll start by saying that @DWrainbowvaper36basically hit the nail on the head that the biggest differences in coils are airflow. Honestly, the airflow differences between the coils are the biggest differences.
Now, the more subtle differences in the coils have to do mostly with the actual number of coils in the assemblies. I'll break it down by the name of each coil for you:
- T8 coil: This is an octocoil (this means there are 8 distinct coils in the assembly). The T8 is rated at .15 ohms and can handle anywhere from 50W - 110W, depending on how warm or cool you prefer your vapor to be. With the octocoil you are going to get most likely get the most vapor. There is more surface are contacting the cotton and the higher wattage capability of this coil will vaporize more liquid as a result. However, due to the higher wattages necessary to run this coil in an effective range you are going to experience a faster drain on your batteries.
- T6 coil: This is a sextuple coil (6 distinct coils in the assembly). It is rated at .2 ohms and can handle anywhere from 40W - 130W, depending on how warm or cool you prefer your vapor to be. Contrary to what physics would tell us about the resistance and how many watts should be able to run through it, this coil can actually be run slightly higher than the T8 coils, thus producing a warmer vape. With the sextuple coil you are going to get vapor that is almost but not quite as prevalent as the octocoil. The flavor will be slightly better. The assembly is identical to that of the T8, so airflow is the same.
- X4 coil: This is a quadruple coil (4 distinct coils in the assembly). It is rated at .15 ohms and can handle anywhere from 30W - 70W, depending on how warm or cool you prefer your vapor. The housing is different than that of the T8/T6 housing and has less restrictive (more) airflow. If you like higher airflow then this particular housing is the way to go. With this coil you will get a nice balance between vapor and flavor, but if you are a mouth to lung vaper then it definitely isn't for you. (In fact, if you are MTL then the baby beast probably isn't for you anyway, although it is possible.)
- Q2 coil (both options): The Q2 coil is both unique and confusing. It comes is two different resistance variations, a .4 ohm dual coil and a .6 phm dual coil. The .4 ohm version is rated from 40W - 80W while the .6 ohm is rated from 30W - 50W. Both coils use the same housing as the X4 and have a lot of airflow. Flavor is, in my opinion, superior with these coils but vapor production tapers off considerably compared to the T8, T6 and X4. These will also produce a much cooler vape than the others mentioned so far.
- There are two new drop in coils coming out that will also be confusing, the M8 coils. This is another dual coil that is available in resistances .15 and .25 ohms. I would imagine these are probably going to be rated in the same range as the X4, but I cannot confirm that at this point. From pictures I have seen they also seem to use the same housing as the X4 and Q2 coils, so airflow will be high.
- RBA deck: The RBA deck for the Baby Beast comes with dual claptons pre-installed. The dual claptons are rated at .35 ohm resistance and can handle anywhere from 30-60 watts. The claptons will help with both vapor and flavor production because of the way they are constructed (more surface area and the "why" a clapton works better than a standard coil is an entirely different topic). After the claptons have run their course you can pretty much build whatever you want on it, which is nice because it means you can use nickel, titanium or stainless steel and use the Baby Beast on a TC mod (unless you have one of the very few mods on the market that will run kanthal in TC mode).
To sum all of that information up, higher resistance will mean less vapor, but better flavor. Lower resistance will mean more vapor, but flavor will be sacrificed. However, as someone who has used the Baby Beast extensively, you really can't go wrong as far as flavor is concerned. If you have seen my video review of the tank, they should have called it the "Flavor Beast", because it really packs a punch where flavor is concerned no matter which coil you are using. You will have to make sure the mod you are using will fire down to .15 ohms, but most mods that have been introduced in the last couple of years will fire down that far.
With the lower resistance/higher wattage combination you are going to be drawing more amps and the length of time your batteries last before needing to be charged will be less than with the higher resistance/lower wattage. You will also notice much more liquid being consumed with the lower resistance/higher wattage coils than with the higher resistance/lower wattage coils. Add in the fact the Baby Beast is only a 3ml tank and you will be refilling it often, even if you choose to go with the .6 ohm Q2 coil.
Hope I cleared things up a little bit and didn't make anything any muddier than it was. Really the choice is going to be based on how much airflow you like, how warm or cool you prefer your vapor and the amount of vapor you want to produce.
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8 minutes ago, Edna said:
Ok @Adversarious1 I finally sprung for a baby beast because of your glowing recommendations... I have you to blame for parting me with my kids inheritance ...LOL at $16.99 I couldn't pass it up. (plus $2.99 SH) but under $20 I'm not out toooo much
I have a dozen or so RDA'a and RDTA'a so I just had to do something different 
@Edna if you're disappointed with it then I'll take it off your hands. But if you're disappointed with it then you're doing something wrong.
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I might have
The black was already out of stock, so I bought a stainless steel. Didn't check to see if there were more. I promise I only bought one, though.
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I have several RDA's in my arsenal and the ones I keep going back to are my Mutation X v3 and v4. They are relatively easy to build on, the airflow options are out of this world for both and either can do single or dual coil setups. The Mutation X v5 looks even easier to build on. The VT store has the v4 and the v5 available right now. $19 for the v4 and only $5 for the v5.
Oh @Christopher...methinks the VT store is about to receive an order for a Mutation X v5 from me.
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Welcome to VT, DW!
If anything, you won't find a lack of people around here who care. Even the 'lurkers' like to come out once in a while to brag or share their experiences with others and know our experiences will be appreciated.
My own personal setup...depends on what I grab in the morning...lol
Kanger EMOW pen style (that I still use on occasion)
Sigelei 100+ (definitely seen better days and it has pretty much been relegated to the "reserve shelf", but it still gets used)
iPV 4 that I custom painted (also seen better days and, as with the 100+, is on the shelf, but still gets used occasionally)
Three...yes, three...Sigelei Fuchai 213's with every intent of buying 3 more and finishing out a full set so I have one of every color. Currently I have a blue one, an orange one and a pink one. Yes...pink.
Council of Vapor Mini Volt
Lost Vape Triade DNA 200
Hohm Tech Hohm Slice single 26650 TC mod
Limitless Sleeve Hybrid Mech Mod
Hyon Ruga VIP mech mod
Beyond Vape Arthas 18650 Mech Mod
USA Made Mods Infected mech mod (complete with Zombie hunting permit)
Other stuff I'm almost definitely forgetting about.
More RDA's, RTA's and sub ohm tanks than I can remember.
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I use an optivisor when I make clapton wire or helix...anything where I'm using a drill and wrapping wire around wire.
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2 hours ago, KarynRH said:
Hmmm, they don't cite the study itself. I'm assuming they're referring to this one: http://annals.org/aim/article/2599869/nicotine-carcinogen-toxin-exposure-long-term-e-cigarette-nicotine-replacement.
Yes, that is the study, although it still isn't the full results of the study.
2 hours ago, KarynRH said:The sample size is small so it'll need a few others to replicate before it's taken at all seriously. It's measuring something quite different from the study in the Journal of Pediatrics so there's no way to compare the two. And it doesn't appear that this study records what type of e-liquids were used.
There have actually been scientific studies on how to conduct scientific studies. In this particular study they used 181 subjects broken down into 5 groups of groups of 36-37 subjects per group. If the individual group results were the same across each entire group (i.e. - everybody in group 'A' displayed the same or very similar results; group 'B' displayed the same or similar results, etc) then the size of the group was adequate. Without knowing the specific results of each group and what the range of results was (if any) then we really can't tell.
The fact the study was measuring something different than the one in the JoP is precisely the problem in. The FDA, CDC, legislators and anybody else with an anti-vaping agenda only want to see what they want to see. It isn't about comparing the two studies, it's about using one half of the whole story to support a specific view or stance while pretending there ins't another half to the story that is in direct contradiction to their view. Basically, it's politics at it's finest.
2 hours ago, KarynRH said:Anecdotally, I can say after (almost) two years that I feel better, my lungs are stronger, and my blood pressure is lower. And there's no question vaping is helping me stay off cigs. I'm really hoping there will be several studies soon that can more definitively say whether the results of the Lion Shahab, PhD and the others are accurate. And a check for other potential health issues related to vaping. But yeah, it's hard to get anyone to fund the studies since the tobacco companies really want vaping to just go away.
Anecdotally so can thousands upon thousands of other former smokers, myself included. Unfortunately that's precisely what it is - anecdotal evidence. As far as getting people to fund the studies, it's more than just big tobacco that would like to see vaping go away. It's also big pharma (don't forget, it's more profitable to treat a problem than cure one) and it's legislators. Legislators either want to outlaw vaping altogether and essentially force people back to cigarettes or they want to tax vaping across the board because of the revenue being lost due to people quitting smoking.
My opinion only - the propaganda being spewed by those with an anti-vaping agenda is geared toward bringing in tax dollars. It has nothing to do with whether or not they truly believe vaping is dangerous or hazardous to public health.
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8 hours ago, Christopher said:
I didn't actually realize we were out of stock. (but you're right we're getting ready move in about a week and some change)
I'll probably have another inventory delivery around Thursday Friday, is that too far out?
Thursday or Friday is fine. Thanks!!
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First - I like the design changes going on with the VT store portion of the site.
Second - do you know when you'll be getting the V8-T8 coils for the TFV8 back in stock? I'm not in a huge rush and I know you're probably in the process of getting everything transferred from the east coast to the west coast, but I just popped my last coil in one of my tanks. I'm also going to be in need of the baby V8-T8 coils for the baby beast, but I would rather order them at the same time.
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On 2/6/2017 at 2:26 PM, Christopher said:
Thanks for the feedback. The topics on the front page, is actually a sort of test (we'll monitor over the next 30 days) we're doing. After that I'd like to invite some members to test a new software system we're working on. (That may or may not ever get released) We'll see how things go. Change is annoying, but it can sometimes result in good things
It might go without saying, but I'll volunteer to beta test (or even alpha test if you need it) when you get to that point.
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8 hours ago, Earthling789 said:
This is news we knew already, but science is beginning to prove what we already knew
http://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0207/850694-e-cigarettes/
There's no mention on the devices used, nicotine strengths, etc., but even if the e-cig devices used were not regulated/controlled, the results appear to be the same
Contrast this to an article on MSN.com today (corroborated by the SUN in a similar article), which cites info that is years old, as "today's facts about teen dripping craze", simply because the study was "finally" published in the Journal of Pediatrics... you know... because it's for the kids...
What do you think the odds are that the FDA and/or the CDC actually read this article...let alone read the actual study.
It's a shame, because a certain political stance in the United States is leading the charge against vaping in the name of "public health". In reality their stance on vaping has zero to do with public health. They are leading the charge against vaping because they see tax dollars from traditional cigarettes dropping and see the potential to regain those tax dollars and fund their pet projects through vaping. For them taxing vape products or banning vape products and sending vapers back to big tobacco is a win/win situation. I would love to see ENDS devices officially declared a smoking cessation device. If that's the case, while the FDA could still regulate them, it would prevent money hungry politicians from taxing them like cigarettes.
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25 minutes ago, KarynRH said:
So doesn't seem like I need to worry it's going to blow up in my face or catch fire? I feel like an idiot asking but I really don't want to do anything stupid with the thing. :^)
Welcome to VT @KarynRH
Don't ever feel like an idiot for asking completely legitimate questions or stating completely legitimate concerns. I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in stating that I would much rather see new vapers ask what may seem like silly questions to them than I would hear of someone who gave up out of frustration and went back to analogs, or worse, become a statistic because something DOES blow up in their face.
That being said, I think @spydre is spot on. It's probably getting hot simply due to hitting it several times in a short period of time. It happens. It doesn't mean anything is wrong with your mod, your tank or your particular method of vaping. There are a couple of things you can do that will help cut down on it, though. The first, and probably thet cheapest, I would recommend is trying a coil with a higher resistance than .5 ohm, for instance the 1.2 ohm coils SSOCC coils. You won't get as much vapor, but it also won't get as hot. As a mouth-to-lung vaper you may actually enjoy the higher resistance a bit more. You will also notice a longer life on your battery between charging.
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Welcome aboard.
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I'm going to go with option 3 and assume that the forum is still in the process of re-caching everything. It was happening at work on my laptop, where I use Chrome 99% of the time and on my desktop where I am forced to use IE. Here at home it's only happening in IE, but I only checked IE to see if it was still happening.
Help with ohms?
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Exactly. 1.8 ohm factory coils in a KPT2 on a regulated mod. Not an unregulated box mod or unregulated single 18650 mod with an RDA on it being used by someone who is admittedly confused by ohms, has used batteries that he doesn't know the history of and is openly asking for guidance.