Conneazoo

Patriots are awesome as far as dripping goes. If you enjoy the RSST, you'd love the Kraken. Helios' are pretty good too. Provides a great building platform for wild builds.

Most learn on drippers then go to swimmers (tanks) but you sound bright enough...

Solid first time combo.... Great to learn on...but the first thing you buy is a good Ohm meter..

As well as what Troy said... Get good batteries Sony VTC4s or VTC5s. I would go with a Patriot or IGO W for a first setup. The tank systems can be a little frustrating for first time builders.

Will do! I really only bought it because I got a hell of a deal on it. I wasn't even really ready to get into modding but it will be there when I get everything figured out!

I really like my spinners but I feel the quality is sub-par. They seem to be very easily broken,

That's funny because I currently use the vision spinner as well, and also have a Vamo V5 otw. We're twinkies!

@ Conneazoo„ thanks for you time in the service!

I appreciate it fish.

I am an aviation electrician and spent some time working in a battery locker while I was in the service. Mostly, dealt with lead acid and NiCad batts. Battery safety is nothing to mess around with. I'm sure that anyone who has witnessed a runaway will certainly attest to this.

I think a lot of people take batteries for granted. Thanks again!

Good to hear! We try to focus on safety. Have a look around and let us know if we can help. Lot's of good ppl and info here!

It you decide to "stack" the 18350's please read up on the safety aspect of it! The 18650 should be fine, however now that you are about to be useing them you should know that not all batts are the same when it comes to quality and safety. Search the forum and you will find what others feel are good, safe, and reliable.

Both are considered good. You should enjoy it. What charger and batts did you get?

Well, I just pulled the trigger on a VAMO V5 and can't wait for it to arrive!

It was between this and the Innokin SVD. It came down to research. Between videos and a lot of reading, it seems that the VAMO will be better for me.

My Vision spinner will remain, but I'm still stoked!

My question would be: What is the source of tobacco they are using for this? Tobacco is treated with chemicals and pesticides. By doing this they are adding these additives to the e-liquid. So, what is the point of vaping? It is rid your self of these toxins and additives, right? I personally would not vape it without knowing what they are using as a source of the tobacco is. IMHO it kind of defeats the purpose of vaping...

A Noobie's Guide to Batteries

While in the chat room one night, someone was asking if there was a guide for batteries. He was hearing all these battery numbers in the conversation, and not familiar enough to follow along. I decided to write this guide to help familiarize the noobs to all the batteries we use for mods.



All of the batteries we use are either 3.7volts or 3.0volts. There is however a 5volt battery used in the Mako Maksi, but it's not one of the popular batteries you frequently hear about, so I'll just concentrate this discussion on the 3 and 3.7volt varieties.



The 3.0volt batteries are primarily used in pairs for a total of 6.0volts for 6volt vaping, and single battery mods are 3.7volts. The 3.7volt batteries are usually only paired if the mod has a voltage regulator (adjustable or fixed) for consistency in voltage throughout battery life and load conditions. Now that you have a little background on how the batteries are used, let's try to make sense out of the numbering system.



The first 2 digits of the battery number indicate the dimension measuring across the battery. So a 10440 measures 10mm across, a 14500 measures 14mm across, and so forth, and the last 3 digits make reference to the length. For example the last 3 digits in a 14500 battery would suggest that the length would be 50.0mm long, but that would be for the unprotected version of the battery. The overcharge/overdischarge protection circuit will add between 2 and 3 mm to the length of the battery, so a 14500 is really 52.5mm long.



Aside from the physical size of the battery, there is something referred to as mah (milliamp hour) rating. This is a capacity rating of the battery, and indicates the amount of energy the battery can store. In other words, how long it will last between charges (more mah, more charge life). Physical size will affect mah ratings, and therefore smaller size batteries will typically have lower mah ratings. Some batteries are available in more than 1 mah rating.



Below is a listing of the more commonly used batteries in e-cigarette mods.










**This is not meant to be a complete list, so please don't shoot me of you know of a battery I didn't list.**

Welcome Conneazoo

That's what you get for trying to cloud chase through your gills and not your mouth.

My bad.... sorry! I had mvp stuck in my gills.... lol

You aren't confused. They both have replaceable batteries.

....The fish head man is confused

My Vamo is 9 months old. It has been dropped, kicked, submerged in water multiple times, and is still kicking. Highly recommend! Welcome to VT.

Welcome and congrats!! Both the vamo and the svd have good reviews. I think it comes down to replaceable batts or the sipmlicity of chargeing the device. Just know that at some point the svd will not take a charge and it's done..... You can replace the batts in the vamo, but it also will have a life expectancy... I'd say with reasonable care the vamo could last longer since you can replace the batts. JMO...

Welcome to VT