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I've gotten that with the stuff that I have from the vape store... Unlabeled and I'll tell you that I never got to wat it was.. I was first starting to build attys and I started seeing the same thing... No clue wat the stuff is I figured it was my juice cooking into the coils and blackening gunking up to coils... It dry burns away ect but it's always back.. I have pure kanthol 24 and it's too low for way I vape and build so I have not compared the two?
Btw.. One days vaping too..

Not caffeine, I get enough from diet sodas and Crystal Light with Caffeine lol. Now they might get my attention of one could vape bourbon and get a good bourbon buzz haha.

I just realized today that I surpassed 30 days without a cigarette!

I'm sure it was just as awesome for you as it is for me right now...

Thank you so much Vapor Talk!

And think that I got the green ones at the vape store.. I was still learning about researching everything! See u even need to know about spaces in the batteries. Lol I'm glad I live to read learn and read some more... If it interests me I'll read all day long.. Never afraid to ask the "dumb" questions either.. That's how we learn?!

Yeah, it seems I gave b-i-t-c-h a whole new and improved definition when I was without smokes.

When I quit cold-turkey all those years ago, my wife told me "I hate your nasty habit, but if you don't start smoking again, one of us is moving out!" The next day she came home with a carton of my favorites Apparently I was a grizzly-bear to EVERYONE during that time...

Not just get it and ingest it, but the baby was already unresponsive when the caretaker, whoever it was, found him. Now, I don't know how quick it would knock a baby out, but you have to assume it's not instantaneous.

My biggest thing with this - other than the lack of supervision - was a) obviously not in a child proof bottle (I would fully support mandating that e-juice be sold in child-proof bottles, as long as the supplier doesn't have to stop selling juice while the transition is under way, if they don't already), and it was where the kid could get to it. Okay, the non child proof bottle, in some cases, I can understand. When we get 120 ml bottles from Better Vapes, it's not a child proof bottle. It has a flip up spout on it. But again, it's not where a kid can get it (well, my 17 and 20 year olds could get it, but not where a toddler can get it). But, like I said in point number 2, IT WAS WHERE THE KID COULD GET TO IT. Which, I agree Bone, leads down the path of lack of supervision - whether it was parental or a babysitter. I mean, if it didn't happen at home, if it happened at someone's home they visited, as a parent, I supervised MORE in those instances. My kids at that age didn't leave my sight unless another person was with them. You just follow them around. So yeah, lack of supervision, and pure idiocy for leaving it wherever it was left that the baby could get into it.

I mean, okay, to take a child darn near everyone has seen pictures of in the press (unless you live under a rock), imagine young Prince George (Prince William and Kate's son) scrambling out of the room, and managing to find a bottle of e-juice, get to it, and swallow some of it, and have time to pass out/become non-responsive all in the time it takes for you to follow him?

The article did seems specific to say "liquid nicotine" - to me, that's different from e-juice, that's the nicotine solution put into the juice - like a DIYer (my SO has some unflavored, um, I can't remember what the mg is in a PG solution, but then he further dilutes that with VG). Of course, it's possible that the reporter doesn't know a darned thing about vaping, so is just calling e-juice as a whole "liquid nicotine". At one year of age, there's no way this baby could have gotten a child proof cap off, but at 1, those suckers are climbers. You should see the towers my youngest son erected in order to to get to the cookies kept in the top cabinet on a weekend morning. We had to keep moving the cookies, it scared the piss out of me when I would get up to giggles and see whatever tower he built (the cookies eventually ended up being hid in my dresser, to avoid the tower thing). It says a one year old, so that's anywhere between twelve and twenty-four months, so yeah, on the later end of the spectrum, climbing is a definite possibility. And at that age, it would take much to poison a kid - especially if it was "liquid nicotine" - undiluted. One hundred percent nicotine on the skin can kill an adult. If for some reason a kid of one ate a cigarette, it could make him/her severely sick, if not kill them, as well.

Yeah, it's a tragedy, but I'm sorry, the blame lays squarely in the lap of the parents and whoever's home it was. For not watching the child (I know, you can't watch them constantly, you have to pee sometimes) and for god's sake for not putting that up in a secured cabinet. If it happened at the parents' home, then, yeah, I'm sorry, they should be shot for leaving it where a baby could get it and either get it on them or in their mouths. If it happened at someone else's home, the first thing that person should have done should have been to make sure the kid didn't see the stuff and couldn't get to it.

But the article is full of fear-mongering/fanning the flames of, frankly, ignorant, hateful comments.

If they are thinking about banning juice because of this, they need to ban bleach, ammonia, anti-freeze, and any of a number of chemicals found around the home that kids have accidentally ingested and died from. Except, with those chemicals, the danger to kids isn't so much in the forefront of people's minds, despite the fact that antifreeze smells so sweet - sweet enough that dogs lick it up unbidden and die every year from it.

Very cool. I can trace my ancestry back to (in this country) the American Revolution, and my German ancestors back a couple hundred years (thanks to a document written up at some point in time in the Loeffler family history leading up to how my mother's grandparents, on her mother's side, left German - at that time, Prussia). Been able to trace some of the Irish and Scot family history, but that's trickier, since my father's father left home at 16, and we don't have a lot of information on his side of the family, other than I think his parents and step-mother. Luckily, on my father's mother's side, there is a distant cousin that has done extensive research on the her side of the family - they even had a lumber town named after them, because well, the lumber mill was theirs, and they, primarily, were the residents of the town, a whole extended family. I've passed off the genealogy research back to my mother, now that she has time for it. She has connections out in the distant relatives that I just don't have - I managed to find three wives for one of my grandmother's ancestors, and an ungodly number of children - but either one marriage ended in divorce, which, you know, wasn't done in the 1700's (I think it was the 1700's) or the information is wrong, because I have the third wife while the second is still alive - which means you can't always trust information you get off others' family trees. In some distant way, we are supposed to be related to Charlemagne, but I didn't bother to trace that side line out. But it was very cool finding all the ancestors that fought in the Revolution, and some that died in the Revolution.

joejoe, I'd heard that about Efest, I think I even saw the same chart. Not sure what you meant by IMR batteries pretty much tap out at 1600 - do you mean they die, or their performance drops off?

For me it was about 7 yrs of cigs. I went through some pretty bad family issues and I felt at the time it was either that or drinking, and I haven't ever drank! Lol. It was in fact 7 yrs of shame because I was really ashamed of myself that I stooped to that point. I also at that point was dealing with bleeding stomach ulcers. Now with no cigs and 2yrs in and out of the hospital 9 times I am feeling better. It was pretty rough and still hard some days but I don't want a cig at all, don't miss it, don't crave it and don't intend to ever go there again.
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Let's see - started at 15, stopped at 39, so that would be 24 years - well, okay, actually started in the fall of the year I was 15, when I started hanging out and spending most of my free time with a girl who smoked (how on earth did those places sell us cigarettes at FIFTEEN YEARS OLD?). Took ten days to finish off the supply of analogs we had after we started vaping (and some family issues/tragedy played a part in that), but the last of those were gone July 17 of last year at like, two AM. I had two cheat days - one at a family reunion RIGHT after, where I had two cigarettes, and one where my mom was facing a SERIOUS medical crisis (almost lost her leg), and I was with my sister at the hospital - still just a couple weeks after dropping the analogs, and I grabbed three of her cigarettes out of stress, and frustration.

The next time I thought I would be tempted was at another family function (like the first time I slipped up), but by that time, our house was aired out, all of our clothes had been washed, and I had been away from the smell of cigarettes for a while. The smell of people smoking darn near turned my stomach. My son had been away from cigarette smoke long enough that he thought he was having trouble breathing, and had to actually leave the house, and spent a good deal of the time we were there outside. I was in favor, initially, if we had guests who smoked allowing them to go ahead and smoke in our house, still, but after smelling that, nope, not doing it. Which reminds me, I need to wash the downstairs bathroom curtains. I'm SURE that's where the cigarette smell in there is coming from - I've eliminated all other possible sources, unless the wallpaper is somehow holding on to it.

I should follow that up by saying I've developed a taste for a certain style/shape drip tip. Even though the drip tips on my of PTs are fine, every now and then, I would get one that felt too big - probably my imagination, maybe not. But that's when I started getting different drip tips.

Not just get it and ingest it, but the baby was already unresponsive when the caretaker, whoever it was, found him. Now, I don't know how quick it would knock a baby out, but you have to assume it's not instantaneous.

Yeah, I just don't get it. I was pretty vigilant, as I'm sure any sensible parent is....and you're exactly right in the amount of time it would have taken for this baby to get to it and ingest it.

The good thing about ProTanks is you can get them with different colored glass. That's how I could differentiate between my juice flavors, by ordering different colored glass tanks. Then, when I ran out of different colors, I started using drip tips, lol. Heck, out of the three ProTanks I use regularly now, none of them have the stock drip tip anymore.

Honestly, the Joyetech tank caught my eye because black and orange are cool colors together, lol.

But if I can use what I have now with the iStick and order the Protank in a few more days.

The drip tip screws in and out, I just don't feel the need to get an adapter for it. I do much prefer a glass tank as well. The one I got with the VTR is the same as he has pictured here.

A 1 year old??

I have two sons, 5 and 3...do you know how long it takes a 2 or 3 year old to do something? Like...4 hours to pick up a toy and put it in their mouth....and the developmental differences from month to month in those early years is incredible...there's a huge difference between a 14 month old and a 16 month old, for example.

I feel terrible for the loss...but there is some lack of supervision here.

Bone Slammer, why can't you use your mini tanks with the iStick?

I love the Davides, although because I tend to make such a mess, I use a needlenose bottle for filling (of course, my Davide is the one flavor I'm actively vaping now that doesn't come with a very thin spout on the bottle - like the VT juices have - so I put the juice I use in the Davide in the bottle with the needle nose tip). The only reason I prefer the ProTanks over the Davide is because the drip tip is a bit loose in the Davide, and after a year, I can be vaping while walking and my arm jars and all of the sudden the drip tip is in my lips, but my APV isn't there anymore. But it's a standard 510 drip tip - well, it may actually be a bit bigger. Maybe it's just on mine, but it's like the "chamber" where the drip tip connects to has gotten smoothed out over time. I say maybe it's actually bigger because the drip tip won't fit in my ProTanks, or in the Kayfun 3.1 that I have an adapter on to accept a 510 drip tip. But that is LITERALLY my only objection to it - that and I like to change out drip tips, and other drip tips seem looser than the original drip tip. In actuality, if you have a needlenose bottle, or a bottle with very thin spout on it, filling it, and getting it all the way full, is a bit easier than the ProTanks, IMO. It's just the normal nipple top bottles that can make it messy if you are like me, and require you to fill it at an angle, rather than straight up to get it actually full.

Brian, have you had issues with your drip tips being loose, or getting looser with time? And you can use the Kanger single coils with the BDC version, or did you make the adjustment so it can take the single Kanger coils rather than the dual coil Aspire coils?

Not sure about an e-leaf (I havent kept up with the latest stuff since I still use my old faithfuls) but you will not find a better tank for the money than a Davide or Davide mini. I toss out the BDC pop in a KPT single coil and roll. Never had a problem and I have over a dozen now. Highly recommend it as a tank.

I got one with my VTR that sits on my desk unused. I also don't like the drip tip and since I can't put what like on it... I'm also not to fond of the top coil tanks but I do use the Iclear 16s with my EVOD batteries. I do like them for those batteries when I'm stealth vaping.

I've not actually had a problem with them, but I only JUST started ordering from them, and the last time I asked them a question was about a year ago and I got a response within a day.

As for tanks, my vote would be the Davide, or a ProTank 2 (I'm not fond of dual coils, that's why I didn't mention the ProTank 3) myself, but really boils down to personal preference.

It's my understanding that the Joyetech eleaf tanks are dual coil or triple coil, and that if you use the triple coil, you have to have a hefty battery to support it (minimum 25 - 30 amps).

These have been around a while, as an upgraded version of the original iClear30 design. I've tried the original iClear30 and iClear16 (with the hanging wicks), and was not impressed with them, so I didn't bother trying the upgraded version. Glad to hear you approve of them, and I'm glad Innokin has a better tank available... I too wish they were Pyrex... I think that is my #1 reason for not giving them another try?

Well you get a star by your name for pronouncing it correctly. Mplough is first initial, last name. It comes from the original English name Ploughman. My ancestors fought during the crusades with Richard the Lionheart. After coming to American they dropped the 'man' and became Plough.