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    Bebop got a reaction from Christopher in Does anyone else think this is all wrong?   
    whoa!
     
    I can barely reply I'm laughing so hard.  
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    Bebop got a reaction from Tam in Before We All Panic.....   
    That's right.  These commercials are just a regurgitation of the fake news stories. 
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    Bebop got a reaction from Walt in Before We All Panic.....   
    That's right.  These commercials are just a regurgitation of the fake news stories. 
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    Bebop reacted to Tam in Before We All Panic.....   
    Our locale TV "news" stations have been having interviews with all kinds of so-called "experts" on vaping and health. The only problem is, they know virtually nothing about vaping more than the bull pucky they've seen on the TV news...
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    Bebop got a reaction from Walt in Before We All Panic.....   
    Boy, the anti-vaping commercials are poring it on thick in my parts.  It's outrageous and qualifies as fake news 😁
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    Bebop got a reaction from Tam in Before We All Panic.....   
    Boy, the anti-vaping commercials are poring it on thick in my parts.  It's outrageous and qualifies as fake news 😁
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    Bebop got a reaction from Walt in Before We All Panic.....   
    The latest CDC report
     
    26 dead and 1200 ill.
    but then they say only 75% confirmed THC. 
    so, what, the other 25% are liars?......
    of course, I'm being facetious, I have no doubt that some of the deaths may have involved vapers with pre-existing health issues and were nowhere near THC. 
    but I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers are fudged here.  I just watched a news interview with a couple who's college age daughter got I'll "by vaping" - 5 minutes of the girl's parents professing the innocence of their sweet little girl and when the interviewer pressed further, "oh well, there was that one time when we caught her vaping THC but we believe her that she is not doing it now"......right.....
    I don't want it to seem like I have no sympathy for these people who are actually suffering from this.  I do.  It's a terrible tragedy. 
    But the truth will set us free (get ti the bottom if this).  Is that too much to ask? 
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    Bebop got a reaction from Tam in Before We All Panic.....   
    Haha.  I remember that😀  we've had our share of geniuses. 
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    Bebop reacted to Tam in Before We All Panic.....   
    I read another article just today about a high school girl who became very ill after vaping. She at least admitted that she sometimes used THC cartridges... but it was only rarely.
    I'm with you, @Bebop. I, too, think the numbers are fudged, it's more likely to be something along the lines of 95% vaped THC and 5% were from other previous health issues. My numbers are much more likely, but that's just my opinion.
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    Bebop got a reaction from Tam in Before We All Panic.....   
    The latest CDC report
     
    26 dead and 1200 ill.
    but then they say only 75% confirmed THC. 
    so, what, the other 25% are liars?......
    of course, I'm being facetious, I have no doubt that some of the deaths may have involved vapers with pre-existing health issues and were nowhere near THC. 
    but I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers are fudged here.  I just watched a news interview with a couple who's college age daughter got I'll "by vaping" - 5 minutes of the girl's parents professing the innocence of their sweet little girl and when the interviewer pressed further, "oh well, there was that one time when we caught her vaping THC but we believe her that she is not doing it now"......right.....
    I don't want it to seem like I have no sympathy for these people who are actually suffering from this.  I do.  It's a terrible tragedy. 
    But the truth will set us free (get ti the bottom if this).  Is that too much to ask? 
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    Bebop got a reaction from cany in Before We All Panic.....   
    The latest CDC report
     
    26 dead and 1200 ill.
    but then they say only 75% confirmed THC. 
    so, what, the other 25% are liars?......
    of course, I'm being facetious, I have no doubt that some of the deaths may have involved vapers with pre-existing health issues and were nowhere near THC. 
    but I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers are fudged here.  I just watched a news interview with a couple who's college age daughter got I'll "by vaping" - 5 minutes of the girl's parents professing the innocence of their sweet little girl and when the interviewer pressed further, "oh well, there was that one time when we caught her vaping THC but we believe her that she is not doing it now"......right.....
    I don't want it to seem like I have no sympathy for these people who are actually suffering from this.  I do.  It's a terrible tragedy. 
    But the truth will set us free (get ti the bottom if this).  Is that too much to ask? 
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    Bebop reacted to Tam in Before We All Panic.....   
    https://www.leafly.com/news/industry/california-vape-maker-kushy-punch-caught-making-illegal-products
    California vape maker Kushy Punch caught making illegal products
    On that note, here's an article about one California vape company that's licensed making and selling unlicensed THC product and pushing it out the back door.
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    Bebop got a reaction from Walt in Before We All Panic.....   
    California is much like Michigan in that regard.  It's appaling.  I'm glad to be leaving.  I've been here my whole life and I love the state but it's politics are out of control now and it's entirely too far left for my moderate tastes.  I feel a great deal of sympathy for those who may have benefitted from the vaping movement and will now likely struggle.  The push to drive it underground  will no doubt create tragedies to come.  I will help as many others as I can, but geez, the bureaucracy is reactionary and misguided.  pisses me off too. 😀
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    Bebop reacted to Walt in Before We All Panic.....   
    When Michigan gets 2.1 billion dollars a year from the master tobacco settlement, sin taxes, and of course campaign donations while cigarette smoking is at it's lowest ever, the mystery becomes pretty clear.  Add to that that Michigan issued bonds against anticipated master tobacco agreement income, and is, as always hurting for money.  I'm not freaking out but I'm madder than a hornet. I've watched numerous "hearings" and they are paid political propaganda.  Cherry picked panel members as well as politicians putting on a B rate movie.  Hardly a thread of truth in the entire production.  One panelist with a prefix Dr. called the U.K. Royal College of Physicians a couple doctors sitting around making unfounded decisions.  The FDA is bumbling around obviously incapable of drafting even final guidelines.  The CDC is obviously under pressure to support the political stance on vaping.  Our president sites pillow talk as his decision to ban flavors.  Insane!!  Maniacally Insane!!!  Mass media jumps in singing the same song.  No wonder, every other commercial is from big pharma who has a vested interest in seeing vaping disappear. 
     
    Tomorrow I have more nicotine and flavor concentrates coming in.  Soon I will be set for the rest of my lifetime.  In the big picture that does nothing for the countless people who will go back to analogs, the black market that will fill the void, the people who will never have the opportunity to try vaping.  These decisions will kill.  Good for the government as the average smoker dies 10 years sooner than the non smoker and will not be collecting social security or medicare.  Leave it to the government.  This time their taking a health crisis that was created by the black market and driving an industry deeper into that black market.  And I'm sure the black market will do a better job of checking I.D.'s.  
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    Bebop reacted to Tam in Before We All Panic.....   
    While we're banning things... why are cigarettes and alcohol still legal? Hmmm?

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    Bebop got a reaction from Tam in Before We All Panic.....   
    Why are people still vaping THC from carts?
     
    This is mind boggling to me.  Do they live under a rock?  What don’t I understand about this problem?
     
     
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    Bebop got a reaction from cany in flavor ban   
    Right now it depends on where you are
    and, if this federal ban happens. 
     
    but here's a snap shot of what is happening locally in Michigan...
     
     
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    Bebop reacted to Tam in Before We All Panic.....   
    Good to know. I was beginning to wonder...   
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    Bebop reacted to Jeffb in Before We All Panic.....   
    Contrary to popular belief, I have not died yet 😋
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    Bebop got a reaction from Tam in Before We All Panic.....   
    Tam to the rescue!
     
    cany and I were about to cut our throats......😂
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    Bebop got a reaction from cany in Before We All Panic.....   
    Tam to the rescue!
     
    cany and I were about to cut our throats......😂
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    Bebop got a reaction from cany in Before We All Panic.....   
    Good for you, Cany
    there is a lot of bad chit out there. Right now.  I still have hope for The future 
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    Bebop reacted to aufin in Before We All Panic.....   
    Bebop, you're probably right ..... the banning has nothing to do with the illnesses, BUT, the illness situation is the driving force behind this round of vape demagoguery.  The general public is so under informed about vaping that anything negative about vaping is ammunition.  And someone dieing while associated with vaping is a huge piece of ammunition that can and is being used to fuel the ignorant anti-vapers. It's just wrong!!! My feeling is the tobacco and pharma lobbyists are really enjoying this round of hysteria. According to my newspaper this morning, Michigan and New York have already banned flavored vape gear way ahead of any thoughtful Investigation on the matter.  I'm still pissed.  Had occasion to see a friend yesterday who is a vaper and the conversation eventually turned to the current vape issue.  She was "scared to vape" because of the filtered information she was hearing.  Like I said,  ignorant people making uninformed decisions.  
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    Bebop reacted to aufin in Before We All Panic.....   
    Nice article, but my thoughts are it is a bit light on pointing fingers at what's/who's driving the vape persecution.  I smoked 50 years, was introduced to vape and vaped 4+ years till I quit everything about 2 years ago.  Even though I'm no longer an active participant in the vape community, this vilification of vapers/ing still has me pretty pissed.  I understand the anguish and hurt around the sickness and deaths, but a knee jerk reaction to ban everything is just plain wrong.  From everything I've read or heard, the culprit seems to be a new ingredient to the vape scene, a type of vitamin E.  Which brings the question ..... how to successfully ban just one ingredient.  Instead, the answer seems to just ban everything.  That should make tobacco and pharma happy.  Stupid!! 
    If I were still vaping I would be stocking up on my fav flavors. Just in case. 
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    Bebop got a reaction from Tam in Before We All Panic.....   
    Good article!
    Everybody I know who vapes is yawning and happily vaping away.  But maybe that's because they know I make juice...😁
     
     
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