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And here is the update . The order came in today. On Saturday they emailed us if we really want the 808 D clearomizer or if that is the wrong type. We did not see the email for several hours and by the time we got around to reply the package was already sent out per the confirmation email we got from them. So...when I opened the package today, they had both thrown in the 808 D and the 510 Ego clearomizer, free of extra charge. All the e-juices came in and smell very good out of the bottle, I'll start to vape some a bit later. Additionally, they threw in another sample of 10 ml Georgia Peach e-juice, free of charge. And they also have a "referal" program, if you order with them and have a friend mention your name in the comments and they order for more than 25 dollars, you get a 10 dollar gift certificate. Might be interesting for some.
Overall, I am super impressed with the customer service and how they went all out to make sure everything in my order was right, even if it would have been my fault for ordering the wrong part (but it was the right part for me, lol).

I'm having severe acne problems since my primary care provider decided I'm getting "too old" for the combination pill and should just take progesterin only. Yeah. I told her that I had too much testoterone in me...Wouldn't believe me, and here I go again.

Anyhow, my blemishes have gotten better over this last week. I have not used anything different but vaping instead of cigarettes, and I read somewhere that cigarettes actually promote the androgyn hormones, which makes sense to a degree. I just hope I can walk around again without looking worse than in puberty *lol*

Sorry for the graphic description

Yes, it's on my "to buy" list. Just have to wait for my next check to come through in a week..because all the shops pretty much charge shipping, I have to have a big enough order together to make it worthwhile.

I'm still a noob myself, but I researched the whole issue for about 4 weeks before diving in.
You can always just buy the battery and prefilled cartomizers. Cartomizers are cartridges that have the heating coil built into them. Most of the commercial prefilled systems, like v2, or blue, work that way. Prefilled cartomizers, however, might sometimes come already half dry, because they might have been stocked for a while.And they only come in a limited selection of flavors.
So, the next step is to buy an empty cartomizer, buy some e-juice, which is the liquid that goes inside there, and do it yourself. I was a bit hesitant first because I thought this will be quite a task to do. In my few days I have been doing this I must say its not at all a nuissance to me - it becomes more of a nice "ritual" that I do in happy anticipation of my next vape hit. The easiest way is to take out the mouthpiece and drip the liquid in the white filling material of the cartomizer. The advantage is: you are in control of the flavor, of the fill level (no dry cartomizer if you monitor how much you vape) and you save money, as a five pack of empty catomizers runs usually somewhere beteen 5.99-8.99$ and e-liquid for 30 ml about 10-15$ and 5 prefilled cartomizers run about 9.99-12.99$.
Cartomizers, at some point, have to be tossed, though some people clean them and get more use out of them that way. I have been using one Cartomizer since I bought the system pretty much continually and it's still working fine.

So, this is the 2-piece type of equipment, like the kr808.

Then, there is the 3-piece type of equipment, where you have the battery, the atomizer, and then a cartridge/tank/clearomizer. That means the heating coil is outside of your tank. Again, from time to time you have to toss the part that holds the e-liquid, or "rebuild" it, that means some people put their own wick in the tank and reuse the tank - that's way too advanced for me though. And the atomizer needs to be replaced from time to time too.

And even the battery is not forever, so at some point you have to buy a new one, just like your cellphone battery runs old, the e-cigarette battery does to.

As to how long the batteries last, the indication for that is the mAh. Mine are 280, and they last me about a whole day, but I have only been a half a pack a day smoker before. The higher the Ampere-hour usually the bigger the battery gets as well.

I am unfortunately not in Europe and have no idea what supplier could get you a decent starter kit, but maybe somebody else can chime in for that. I have the Kr-808D, but most people here prefer the 510 Ego, it seems. However, there are also adapter screws available, if you buy one system you are not "doomed" to stick to it forever .

I bought my K-808 starter kit at Goodejuice.com for 35 bucks with two manual batteries, because I too wanted something that "feels" like a cigarette as far as it can. I augmented this set with the bloog automatic batteries, they have a sale right now ,20 bucks for four. I like the manual batteries because you can press the button and if you wait a second it produces more vapor than the automatic that only warm up when you suck on them. However, the automatic are much more convenient if you drive, for example. The also had a personal charger on sale at bloog, which is a good thing when you are not near a computer, so you don't run out of battery power.

The V2 is also a 808, so its on the expensive side with 65 dollars. But you could use their cartos if you don't want to fill yourself - however, as has been said, prefilled ones are a bit hit and miss. I was a bit hesitant about filling myself, but I must say in the last 3 days I kind of figured it out (did everything from not enough juice to the juice dripping out of the carto, so it takes some fine tuning and some experience to estimate how much juice you vape out per personal use) and its super easy. I just have my little drip bottle with me, unhook the cap every couple of hours, put some ejuice in, and good to go again. And it will never taste dry.
The batteries last me about a day of use before having to recharge - however, I was only a half a pack a day smoker before, so that might not be the typical use. They take about 4 hours to recharge.
Hope this helps you a bit!

bloog 4 auto batteries, personal charger, and some vanilla e-juice to try came in today. Woohoo...now I just need more empty cartos *lol*

Yesterday my E-cigarette kit was finally here in the mail! I came home from work at 8:30 pm and went to work.

1. Unpack the goods. Realize that 3 ml, 5 ml and 10 ml of E-juice bottles are rather on the small side.

2. Unpack the E-cigarette set. Read the chinese-english manual. Realize that this manual ain't helping you. Decide to figure it out on your own.

3. Screw the battery into the charger. Wonder why the light is still blue though the battery should not be fully charged. Figure out after 10 minutes that you need to screw the battery tighter to actually get the red light and have it charging.

4. Realize you have two manual batteries. How did they work again? Watch 15 youtube videos about how to use manual batteries.

5. Decide to fill your first empty cartomizer. Get your blunt syringe ready for it, after having watched 3 youtube videos about syringe filling. Try to get the e-liquid to the 1 ml mark. Realize that you do something wrong because you can only pull up half a ml. Try to get that half ml in your cartomizer without punching holes in the filling. Get about half of the half ml in the cartomizer. Try to put the rest of the liquid back in the e-liquid bottle. Get a vacuum between the bottle and the needle, and when pulling the needle out, detach the needle and spray e-juice over your face, hands, and your cashmere pullover. Soak the pullover in cold water, wash hands and face, and decide to simply drip the rest of the liquid in. Clean cartomizer.

6. After the battery is fully charged, attach the cartomizer to the battery. Cartomizer has settled for about an hour and should be good without burning. Put e-cigarette to lips and realize you had some e-juice on the mouthpiece...eeew. Finally depress the manual button, and try to take a puff. Hm. small vapor. Play around a bit and realize pressing the button first, then waiting a second, and then puffing actually works better. Enjoy the taste of your first choice E-liquid, Nuport by Dekang. Realize it does not taste anything like Newports.

7. Have a fight with your husband because you are all cranky and in a weird mood but can't quite figure out why. Continue said moodswings throughout the day, though you vape as you would usually smoke. Realize late in the afternoon that the first e-liquid you chose had 0 nicotine in it....which explains the weird mood swings *facepalm*.

8. Fill a cartomizer with cool menthol e-liquid 12 mg and relax and enjoy .

Yesterday my E-cigarette kit was finally here in the mail! I came home from work at 8:30 pm and went to work.

1. Unpack the goods. Realize that 3 ml, 5 ml and 10 ml of E-juice bottles are rather on the small side.

2. Unpack the E-cigarette set. Read the chinese-english manual. Realize that this manual ain't helping you. Decide to figure it out on your own.

3. Screw the battery into the charger. Wonder why the light is still blue though the battery should not be fully charged. Figure out after 10 minutes that you need to screw the battery tighter to actually get the red light and have it charging.

4. Realize you have two manual batteries. How did they work again? Watch 15 youtube videos about how to use manual batteries.

5. Decide to fill your first empty cartomizer. Get your blunt syringe ready for it, after having watched 3 youtube videos about syringe filling. Try to get the e-liquid to the 1 ml mark. Realize that you do something wrong because you can only pull up half a ml. Try to get that half ml in your cartomizer without punching holes in the filling. Get about half of the half ml in the cartomizer. Try to put the rest of the liquid back in the e-liquid bottle. Get a vacuum between the bottle and the needle, and when pulling the needle out, detach the needle and spray e-juice over your face, hands, and your cashmere pullover. Soak the pullover in cold water, wash hands and face, and decide to simply drip the rest of the liquid in. Clean cartomizer.

6. After the battery is fully charged, attach the cartomizer to the battery. Cartomizer has settled for about an hour and should be good without burning. Put e-cigarette to lips and realize you had some e-juice on the mouthpiece...eeew. Finally depress the manual button, and try to take a puff. Hm. small vapor. Play around a bit and realize pressing the button first, then waiting a second, and then puffing actually works better. Enjoy the taste of your first choice E-liquid, Nuport by Dekang. Realize it does not taste anything like Newports.

7. Have a fight with your husband because you are all cranky and in a weird mood but can't quite figure out why. Continue said moodswings throughout the day, though you vape as you would usually smoke. Realize late in the afternoon that the first e-liquid you chose had 0 nicotine in it....which explains the weird mood swings *facepalm*.

8. Fill a cartomizer with cool menthol e-liquid 12 mg and relax and enjoy .

Yesterday my E-cigarette kit was finally here in the mail! I came home from work at 8:30 pm and went to work.

1. Unpack the goods. Realize that 3 ml, 5 ml and 10 ml of E-juice bottles are rather on the small side.

2. Unpack the E-cigarette set. Read the chinese-english manual. Realize that this manual ain't helping you. Decide to figure it out on your own.

3. Screw the battery into the charger. Wonder why the light is still blue though the battery should not be fully charged. Figure out after 10 minutes that you need to screw the battery tighter to actually get the red light and have it charging.

4. Realize you have two manual batteries. How did they work again? Watch 15 youtube videos about how to use manual batteries.

5. Decide to fill your first empty cartomizer. Get your blunt syringe ready for it, after having watched 3 youtube videos about syringe filling. Try to get the e-liquid to the 1 ml mark. Realize that you do something wrong because you can only pull up half a ml. Try to get that half ml in your cartomizer without punching holes in the filling. Get about half of the half ml in the cartomizer. Try to put the rest of the liquid back in the e-liquid bottle. Get a vacuum between the bottle and the needle, and when pulling the needle out, detach the needle and spray e-juice over your face, hands, and your cashmere pullover. Soak the pullover in cold water, wash hands and face, and decide to simply drip the rest of the liquid in. Clean cartomizer.

6. After the battery is fully charged, attach the cartomizer to the battery. Cartomizer has settled for about an hour and should be good without burning. Put e-cigarette to lips and realize you had some e-juice on the mouthpiece...eeew. Finally depress the manual button, and try to take a puff. Hm. small vapor. Play around a bit and realize pressing the button first, then waiting a second, and then puffing actually works better. Enjoy the taste of your first choice E-liquid, Nuport by Dekang. Realize it does not taste anything like Newports.

7. Have a fight with your husband because you are all cranky and in a weird mood but can't quite figure out why. Continue said moodswings throughout the day, though you vape as you would usually smoke. Realize late in the afternoon that the first e-liquid you chose had 0 nicotine in it....which explains the weird mood swings *facepalm*.

8. Fill a cartomizer with cool menthol e-liquid 12 mg and relax and enjoy .

Yesterday my E-cigarette kit was finally here in the mail! I came home from work at 8:30 pm and went to work.

1. Unpack the goods. Realize that 3 ml, 5 ml and 10 ml of E-juice bottles are rather on the small side.

2. Unpack the E-cigarette set. Read the chinese-english manual. Realize that this manual ain't helping you. Decide to figure it out on your own.

3. Screw the battery into the charger. Wonder why the light is still blue though the battery should not be fully charged. Figure out after 10 minutes that you need to screw the battery tighter to actually get the red light and have it charging.

4. Realize you have two manual batteries. How did they work again? Watch 15 youtube videos about how to use manual batteries.

5. Decide to fill your first empty cartomizer. Get your blunt syringe ready for it, after having watched 3 youtube videos about syringe filling. Try to get the e-liquid to the 1 ml mark. Realize that you do something wrong because you can only pull up half a ml. Try to get that half ml in your cartomizer without punching holes in the filling. Get about half of the half ml in the cartomizer. Try to put the rest of the liquid back in the e-liquid bottle. Get a vacuum between the bottle and the needle, and when pulling the needle out, detach the needle and spray e-juice over your face, hands, and your cashmere pullover. Soak the pullover in cold water, wash hands and face, and decide to simply drip the rest of the liquid in. Clean cartomizer.

6. After the battery is fully charged, attach the cartomizer to the battery. Cartomizer has settled for about an hour and should be good without burning. Put e-cigarette to lips and realize you had some e-juice on the mouthpiece...eeew. Finally depress the manual button, and try to take a puff. Hm. small vapor. Play around a bit and realize pressing the button first, then waiting a second, and then puffing actually works better. Enjoy the taste of your first choice E-liquid, Nuport by Dekang. Realize it does not taste anything like Newports.

7. Have a fight with your husband because you are all cranky and in a weird mood but can't quite figure out why. Continue said moodswings throughout the day, though you vape as you would usually smoke. Realize late in the afternoon that the first e-liquid you chose had 0 nicotine in it....which explains the weird mood swings *facepalm*.

8. Fill a cartomizer with cool menthol e-liquid 12 mg and relax and enjoy .

Want! Does anybody know of a resale link for this?

I'm no help in the Europe department but that puff count is bogus. I'd say almost 99% of us that vape do it much more than we ever smoked. I would recommend starting at a either 12mg or 18mg nic. Those are good baselines. I say start there and build or take away as desired. I highly doubt you'll od on an ecig unless you get some crazy high nic like over 24...that's just my 2c. Also, welcome to VT!

I'm a little confused here, you've stated the type of cigarette you smoke along with the nicotine content but you don't inhale? If you're not inhaling, the amount of nicotine your getting is probably minim at best. (If any at all)

To me it sounds like you'd be better off sucking on some candy or perhaps holding a pin. It would seem to me the most additive part of smoking is none existent to you. In fact I'm honestly not sure at all why you need any strength nicotine, why not go right to zero?

Well I'll tell you this, I wouldn't worry about the 15 puffs ordeal. Let me tell you, we all blow that rule I've honestly never heard of it till you mentioned it. Shoot, most smokers take 10 puffs per cigarette.

If it's purely habitual, I'd go with the Njoy and I'm sure you'll be fine. If they don't offer zero, or perhaps it doesn't work for you, then go with either the KR808 or Joye 510.

My advice? Get a Joye 510 Tank with Zero MG liquid. Easy to fill, no mess no fuss, will take care of the hand to mouth ordeal and you'll be good to go.

I've read that the enjoy kings have large amounts of nic.
The strongest is around 30mg,I'm sure that's why they suggest
that you limit the amount of puffs.

I think if you got a kit and got juice around 12-18mg it would be fine.
Just remember to listen to your body it will tell you if you're getting
too much nic.Headaches, queasy stomach,jitters etc...

I won't be much help with the euro plugs but I believe you can get adapters
suitable for charging e-cigs.Hopefully someone will chime in soon who knows
for sure.

Welcome and good luck with vaping.

Edit: yes I have read that nic is absorbed through the membranes in the mouth
so you do get some nic even if you don't inhale.

That nic rate is bloated without question. I ordered one of the free trials and after hearing how weak the "3%" was I ordered the "4.5"...yeah right. I've been vaping almost a year and there is zero chance the nic is above 20-24mg...I don't have a lab to verify that but just from comparison there's no way its that high. At 4.5% you're talking about 45mg/ml...nope. I vape 12mg typically. The njoy is stronger than that but nowhere near what they claim. The only way that rating is right is if they are using ultra cheap nic base....like cocaine cut with sugar..lol