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So I fully intend to have my 0mg juice and an ecig on me at all times. Go to a party, have a good time, vape and not even think about it the next day because I will not be addicted to nicotine. It is the act of quitting nic, then taking a cigarette which has the addictive drug nicotine in it, that causes people to "fail". The way to not fall into that trap is to vape with 0mg.

Fantastic story... I work in the ICU of our local hospital, as well as the Emergency Room. All the smokers keep wondering if I've quit because I'm not going out for breaks anymore. I've been taking bathroom breaks every 2-3hours instead. The smokers that I've shown it to are pretty impressed but say that they have seen it before. None of them so far are convinced that it will actually replace analogs, tho. The non-smokers I've shown it to are not impressed at all. They just won't believe that the vapor isn't harmful. Of course, nobody has complained of the smell in the bathroom either...... I sure hope that the longer I go without analogs will convince them to make the switch. I have however gone to my Dr. and he has agreed to help me document the changes that my body will go through over the next year. I will visit him on a monthly basis for physicals. I'm getting a chest X-ray next week to show what shape my lungs are in now. Then another in six months, and another six months after that.....We'll see if that turns some heads, huh?

Waiter for 3 years. Combat medic in the army for 9 1/2 years. EMT/Paramedic for 1 year. Licensed Practical Nurse for 4 years. Hospital furniture salesman for 4 years. Car salesman for 2 years. Oil field roustabout for 1 year. Bull Dozer, Haul Truck, Scraper, Loader, and Blade Operator for 4 years. Currently a Registered Nurse specializing in pediatric ICU and trama. 3 years. I'm also the founder and past-president of our local poker club and card room. I've been playing poker since I was 15 years old.

I've gone through all of the other posts and have managed to get myself completely confused, which isn't really hard to do, actually. But basically what I'm getting from all this crack scientific gobbly **** is that you just need to finger out what works best fer you. I have an associate's degree in science and technology from the Univer. of Maryland and I'm here to tell you that if I have to buy an Erlenmeyer flask in order to quit analogs, I'm just gonna go stand in traffic. I want to try to mix up some of my own flavors. And I also want to cut the nic juice I buy from VT or from AwesomeVapor. I'm lookin' for cost reduction, pure, plan and simple. I just have a few questions...... 1) When I read the nicotine strengths advertised online, am I correct to assume that it means mg/ml? Or does it mean something else? 2) In order to cut the strength of the liquid I purchase, am I correct in thinking that the only ingredient I need to add is more glycerin? 3) When adding flavors, is there a general idea of how much flavor to use, or is it just whatever tastes best? Do I need a lot of this flavor? 4) When would I need to use pure grain alchohol? (PGA) The only other thought that comes to mind about making my own juice concerns stealth vaping. This is something I was going to post as another topic but I'll include it here. Can a guy make a juice that gives a great throat hit without any vapor at all? I'm sure this comes as no surprise to some of you, but out here on the frontier we have some tree-huggin' duck-squeezers that just won't believe that the stuff I'm blowin' off won't kill them. I mean these morons are terrified about cows farting! Firing up my devil stick indoors around here may get me linched, let alone arrested...

Out here in Wyoming we can get 95% Everclear. Mom uses it to make her Kahlua mix for the holidays, and we used to use it to make our jungle juice for house parties. We also use it to run our lawnmowers....We fed it to a wild jack rabbit once and the damn thing ate the neighbor's cat!

I don't care how blue your Bromothymol aqueous solution is, the last time I put my stopcock in a Burette stand I broke the young lady's erlenmeyer.

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I just have to read the countless testimonials to see that vaping has helped a lot of people feel healthier. The things people say about how much better they feel lead me to the conclusion that it's almost as good, if not as good, as quiting all together. Is vaping nicotine as bad as smoking regular cigarettes? Not even close, in my opinion. Can it cause problems for us in some cases? Definately! For instance, a pregnant, or nursing woman should not ingest nicotine in any way whatsoever. Nicotine itself has been proven to cause many harmful effects to an unborn fetus, such as low birth weight, pulmonary, vascular, and neurological problems, and it has been linked to sudden infant dealth syndrome. Any supplier of ecigarettes should make it clear to thier customers that vaping nicotine is NOT an acceptable alternative for pregnant and nursing mothers. Ok, So what about the rest of us. Apparently, PG has been said to contain nitrosamines, which have been linked to many types of gastro-intestinal cancers, but the jury is still out on how much of these nitrosamines can hurt us and how much is present in vaping. From what I understand, this substance is barely detectable in lab studies of PG and can be found in higher concentrations in some food we eat. When it comes to nicotine, each brand of analog is different, but generally speaking one analog can contain between 1-3mg of nicotine. However, through the process of smoking, a person only ingests about .05-.15mg per drag, depending on the depth of drag they tend to take. Most important to understand is that the half life of nicotine is very short; only about 40 minutes. As mass produced cigarettes became popular, tobacco companies realized that packaging cigarettes in packs of 20-25 was perfect for a days worth of smoking. Just enough nicotine to keep a guy coming back each day for a fresh pack. Did you know that if you took a drug test after only 1-2hrs of abstinence, the test would not be able to detect any nicotine in your body? A lethal dose of nicotine for an average adult man is about 60mg. But how do you get that much nicotine into your system by smoking or vaping? With it's short half life, a guy would have to do an awful lot of vaping in a very short amount of time to overdose on nicotine. And he would feel pretty terrible (nausea, vomitting, headaches, tachycardia, dyspnea, convulsions, and coma, before even getting to the death part). I mean, how many news reports do you hear about people being found dead from nicotine poisoning? I suppose if you drank a bottle of juice containing 36mg/ml you could do some serious damage, which is why it is extremely important to keep this stuff away from kids. Hell, even a small amount to a child is highly toxic, if not fatal. I certainly don't want to make people worried so much about the amount of nicotine that they may be consuming. That was never my point. Nicotine alone has NEVER been proven to cause cancer, period. In fact, nicotine is a lot like caffeine in terms of it's actual negative effects. It is however extremely addictive, as any smoker can tell you. As I stated in my original post, the only real concern I have about nicotine is when it comes to the eliquid. I think Chris understands full well what I mean. My point has never been to warn people about nicotine or to say that people need to eventually give up vaping. You can buy 0mg eliquids. And I'm not going to re-state what I said earlier about people who choose to continue vaping nicotine. My point is that I feel like vaping is a wonderful invention and is truly the best way to save millions of people from tobacco abuse, which kills thousands each year. I can't say that any other NTR has the ability to save as many lives as the ecigarette. But if we as consumers, along with our suppliers, act responsibly, and educate ourselves and others on the benifits and any dangers of vaping, we stand a much better chance of seeing this product around for a long time. I would hate for negative publicity and one or two serious incidents concerning eliquid ruin it for all those that depend on this product. If labeling it as an aide to stop smoking will keep it on the shelve, than so be it. If putting it in child-proof containers (reguardless of how irresponsible some parents can be) will keep it on the shelves, than so be it. If warning people about nicotine addiction is needed to keep it on the shelves, than so be it....

Thanks Chris, for your compliment, but mostly for your response. I continue to be impressed with how you monitor your forum. It's very comforting to know that this site is being hosted by such an honest, inciteful, and caring person. You truly have your finger on the pulse of this issue. I was not aware of the protective measures you have already taken to guard our children against the possible harm that could come from eliquid. I think that consumers need to support things like this with their paitronage. I look forward to hearing about other advancements, and encourage our members to support safety measures of this product.

Hello to all you vapers out there.... I'm a nurse who has been smoking for WAY too long. And for quite some time now I've been looking to quit smoking. It's gonna kill me if I don't. But I have to admit that nothin' beats a smoke after a stressful day at work. And a cigarette would sure come in handy during a long, boring flight or a road trip. Like a number of people here, I've tried several different ways to quit, and found one thing in common with all of the most popular quiting aides on the market today. The patch, the gum, inhalers, and Chantix are all forms of "nicotine replacement therapy". Doctors, pharmacuetical companies, and even the FDA agree that the best way to quit the smoking habit is to breifly replace our means of consuming nicotine, and then slowly reduce our dependency until we have effectly weaned our bodies from it. These different forms of "nicotine replacement" are much safer for us than smoking tobacco. The patch is a transdermal system of delivering nicotine through the skin. The gum is a way of comsuming nicotine orally. And although Chantix does not contain nicotine, it does contain chemicals that affect our brains in the same way in oder to trick the brain into thinking that its still getting nicotine. The FDA is focused on stopping the terrible effects of tobacco use in our country. And the organization is determined to do whatever it takes to stop the deadly spread of it's use among our young people, as well. Thats a good thing! I'm glad that they are concerned for the safety and health of our population. For decades, the FDA has regulated manufactures and industries in order to keep us safe. I would hate to think of where we would be without the FDA. I certainly don't want my new grand child growing up to use tobacco. The question is, do we really need another "nicotine replacement therapy"? Aren't the products on the american market today enough? Why should we endorse another means of nicotine addiction? That is what I think the FDA is trying to say to vapers. By using this product, that hasn't been studied by the FDA, are we improving our health? Or are we causing more problems for ourselves? Is it helping us to quit using tobacco? Or are we just switching our means of consumption? And by using these products, are we saying to our young people that smoking is finally safe? Will these products cause our young people to one day use tobacco in order to consume nicotine? Let us look at the quit smoking aides we have in place right now that are approved by the FDA. These therapys have all been tested in laboratories over several years. They have all been proven to help the smoker control his/her cravings for nicotine in the hopes that the individual's willpower can keep them from using tobacco. All of these therapys have a way of delivering a safe amout of nicotine without the possiblity of overdose, if taken as prescribed. These therapys, while effectively controling nicotine addiction, have not addressed the other habit forming behaviors of smoking tobacco. They do not do anything for the feeling I get while driving to work. The behavioral need I have to do something with my hands. Almost every person who smokes will testify that there is a certain ceremony involved with smoking tobacco. A calming and relaxing feeling that acompanys the act of smoking. Tests show that smokers tend to have a higher level of concentration while smoking. And the act also has the ability to divert our attention in times of stress. I know that nothing calms me down better than a smoke break during stressful days at work. Some people might say that it's the nicotine that you need to calm your nerves, but I don't hear too many people say, "Man, I could really use some gum right now". There are also reports done by the army that show that cigarettes played a crucial part in WWII and other wars. Many a soldier who didn't smoke before combat came home with a pack of fags in his pocket. Yes, these are all examples of the feeling we get from using nicotine, but those behaviors become ingrained in us over years of smoking and are very difficult to change, even with the use of "NRTs". After reviewing dozens of personal profiles in this forum, I have noticed one common connection between us all. 100% of the profiles I've looked at claim to be ex-smokers. Very few of us are still using tobacco, and those of us who are, are doing so much less than we used to. Vaping is continuously proving to me to be one of, if not the most effective "nicotine replacement therapys" introduced so far. Certainly the most attractive, anyway. I believe that we are on the precipus of something truly revolutionary. Our actions and our endorsment of this product could save millions of lives. It may very well be bigger than any other human rights issue to date. And I am very excited about it. But it also scares me a little. What we do and how we respond to critisism may effect future generations of americans for years to come. I understand that the following statements my cause concern for some of our forum citizens and for many of our suppliers of this product, but I can't help but think of how beneficial this product is for quiting tobacco. And, as a responsible person, who cares about the health and safety of our communities, and our children's future, I believe that vaping should be focused on quiting not only the terrible habit of smoking tobacco, but also the weaning of nicotine dependency and the use of any nicotine products all together. The reason you choose to vape is your own. I'm not here to tell anyone that what they're doing is wrong. I believe that if you choose to vape for the rest of your life it would be a HUGE improvement to your health when compaired to tobacco products. But I also feel that nicotine is bad too. And should be considered harmful. That being said, I feel that vaping is most likely the greatest way to stop the abuse of tobacco. I haven't heard a single report of someone claiming that vaping has caused them more harm than good, to say nothing of the effects of second-hand smoke. I have searched the web and can't find a single instance of any negative affects from vaping. The only concern than I can find, or think of, in reference to any harm caused by vaping is that of the liquid we use to refill our ecigs. Most of the liquid out there contains nicotine. Nicotine is a toxin and a stimulant. It is classified as an alkaloid. It was used as an insecticide, but because it is also extremely poisonous to man and animal in concetrated doses, it was stopped being used in this manner. Who stopped it's use as an insecticide? The FDA. These nicotine liquids can be extremely harmful if taken in large quantities. My greatest fear is that we will soon hear about a toddler who drank eliquid and died from it. Such an instance could cause this movement of ours to be outlawed. I believe that these eliquids are what the FDA will focus it's attention on, if they haven't already. What manufactures are putting in this liquid is what will become the focus of attention. What is the nicotine content of this liquid and how do the manufactures guard against harmful ingredients? How is it being labeled? Is it being packaged in child-proof containers? These issues I think will cause our vaping communities the most greif as the popularity of this product grows. It's not the 4' tall glass water bong thats so illegal. It's what we put in it. If we encourage our suppliers to step up and help solve some of these potential problems, than we can show the FDA, and the world, that we, as concerned consumers, are not only advocates for vaping, but also aware of it's risks. The auto industry invented the seatbelt for use in cars because we, as consumers, demanded it! And our government listened, eventually making seatbelts and other safety features a requirement. There is nothing wrong with our government making safety requirements nessesary for these products, as well. I just pray that the FDA recognizes the potential this product has in saving lives, too.

You know why a great many wealthy people try so hard to take good care of them selves? Cause they have a damn good reason to live!! They have the money to live a happy life!

Ok, that posting was all messed up....Her's a better, more refined version..... Ok, Being a relatively new member, and being new to vaping, I am of coarse concerned abouthow this change may effect my life-long addiction tonicotine. Will I end upincreasing my need or decreasing my need?How do I find the answers?How much nicotine is in a regular smoke?How much is in a drag off an ecig?How will it affect my high blood pressure?One thing I've foundin my brief researchis that there are quite a few variables to these questions. Especially when you look at whois doing the studies. I've been a nurse for many years and have witnessed first hand the harm done to the body by smokingcigarettes. And, like all of you, I can't help but recognize the benefits of vaping over analogs. I just have to read the countless testimonials to see that vaping has helped a lot of people feel healthier. The things people say abouthow much better they feel leads me to the conclusion that it's almost as good, if not as good, as quiting all together. But there are still some things about vaping that we should all consider. Mainly, that most of us are still addicted tonicotine. Andnicotine does have documented negative effects on our bodies.Is vaping as bad as smoking regularcigarettes? Not even close,in my opinion. Can it cause problems for usin some cases? Definately! Forinstance, a pregnant, or nursing woman should notingestnicotine in any way whatsoever.Nicotine itself has been proven to cause many harmful effects to an unborn fetus, such as low birth weight, pulmonary, vascular, and neurological problems, and it has been linked to suddeninfant dealth syndrome. Any supplier of ecigarettes should make it clear to thier customers that vapingnicotine is NOT an acceptable alternative to analogs for pregnant and nursing mothers. Ok, So what about the rest of us. Well, I'm still doing a lot of searching to find the answers I need, and I would really like to see some serious replies and links to anyinformation we may find.Nicotine doesin fact produce nitrosamines, which have been linked to many types of gastro-intestinal cancers, but the juryis still out onhow much of these nitrosamines can hurt us andhow much is presentin vaping. Each brand of analogis different, but generally speakingone analog can contain between 1-3mg ofnicotine.However, through the process of smoking, a person onlyingests about .05-.15mg per drag, depending on the depth of drag they tend to take. Most important to understandis that the half life ofnicotine is very short; only about 40 minutes. As mass producedcigarettes became popular, tobacco companies realized that packagingcigarettesin packs of 20-25 was perfect for a days worth of smoking. Just enoughnicotine to keep a guy coming back each day for a fresh pack. Did you know that if you took a drug test after only 1-2hrs of abstinence, the test would not be able to detect anynicotine in your body? A lethal dose ofnicotine for an average adult manis about 60mg. Buthow do you get thatmuch nicotine into your system by smoking or vaping? With it's short half life, a guy would have to do an awful lot of vapingin a very short amount of time to overdose onnicotine. And he would feel pretty terrible (nausea, vomitting, headaches, tachycardia, dyspnea, convulsions, and coma, before even getting to the death part. I mean,how many news reports do you hear about people being found dead fromnicotine poisoning? I suppose if you drank a bottle of juice containing 36mg/ml you could do some serious damage, whichis why itis extremely important to keep this stuff away from kids. Hell, even a small amount to a childis highly toxic, if not extremely fatal. So what do I think? I think we all need to be as educated as we can be about what we putinto our bodies and what we expose our youngones to. Keepin mind at all times that a bottle of eliquid can be worse than a loaded gun around a curious toddler. If we all act responsibly and take ownership of our actions, we can all show the world that vaping can be safe, and far more healthy than analogs. I just wish that the FDA was moreinterestedin regulating our actual welfare than they seem to be about helping out lobbyists and specialinterest groups. After all, they have the means of answering all our questions, don't they?

Ok, Being a relatively new member, and being new to vaping, I am of coarse concerned abouthow this change may effect my life-long addiction tonicotine. Will I end upincreasing my need or decreasing my need?How do I find the answers?How much nicotine is in a regular smoke?How much is in a drag off an ecig?How will it affect my high blood pressure?One thing I've foundin my brief researchis that there are quite a few variables. Especially when you look at whois doing the study. I've been a nurse for many years and have witnessed first hand the harm done to the body by smokingcigarettes. And, like all of you, I can't help but recognize the benefits of vaping over analogs. I just have to read the countless testimonials to see that vaping has helped a lot of people feel healthier. The things people say abouthow much better they feel leads me to the conclusion that it's almost as good, if not as good, as quiting all together. But there are still some things about vaping that we should all consider. Mainly, that most of us are still addicted tonicotine. Andnicotine does have documented negative effects on our bodies.Is vaping as bad as smoking regularcigarettes? Not even close,in my opinion. Can it cause problems for usin some cases? Definately. Forinstance, a pregnant, or nursing woman should notingestnicotine in any way.Nicotine itself has been proven to cause many harmful effects to an unborn fetus, such as low birth weight, pulmonary, vascular, and neurological problems, and it has been linked to suddeninfant dealth syndrome. Any supplier of ecigarettes should make it clear to thier customers that vapingnicotine is NOT an acceptable alternative to analogs for pregnant and nursing mothers... Ok, So what about the rest of us. Well, I'm still doing a lot of searching to find the answers I need, and would really like to see some serious replies and links to theinformation we may find. Each brand of analog can contain between 1-3mg ofnicotine, but through the process of smoking, a person onlyingests about .05-.1mg per drag. The half life ofnicotine is only about 40 minutes, whichis the reason why most packs of analogs contain 20cigarettes.One days worth, notincluding hours of sleep. Did you know that if you took a drug test after only 1-2hrs of abstanence, the test would not be able to detect anynicotine? A lethal dose ofnicotine for an average adult manis about 60mg. With it's short half life, that guy would have to do an awful lot of vapingin a very short amount of time to overdose onnicotine. And he would feel pretty terriblein the process. I suppose if you drank a bottle of juice containing 36mg/ml you could do some serious damage, whichis why itis extremely important to keep this stuff away from kids. Hell, even a small amount to a childis highly toxic, if not fatal. My opinion? We all need to be as educated as we can be about what we putinto our bodies and what we expose our youngones to. If we all act responsibly and take ownership of our actions, we can all show the world that vaping can be safe, and far more healthy than analogs. I just wish that the FDA was moreinterestedin regulating our actual welfare than they seem to be about helping out lobbyists and specialinterest groups. After all, they have the means of answering all our questions, don't they?