32 replies to this topic

[Sinikal]

Forbes.... Sorry buddy but an article isnt going to retract the judges decision. Everything written we all know about, and quite franky im sick of hearing about. The FDA found this "Antifreeze substance" from some crappy supplier that was taking shortcuts in making there product. Alot of companies like VT insure that this chemical is not found in there product. They are making it seem as if every batch of juice contains cancerous substances in it. ABSURD

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there is no credible scientific evidence..that they are effective at helping smokers or other tobacco users quit

  

Sure! There is no "Scientific" evidence, but there is FACTUAL evidence that it does help smokers quit. Ask anyone here on Vapor Talk and find out!  

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Third, these products could serve as a pathway to nicotine addiction for children, leading them to smoke cigarettes and use other tobacco products.

The only pathway to nicotine addiction in children is the pathway paved by bad parenting!

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"Electronic cigarettes have been marketed in youth-friendly candy and fruit flavors including bubblegum, cookies and cream, and cola."

Really? Because im 23 years old and i love those flavors too. Youth-friendly? Is the taste of tar, smoke, and tobacco youth-friendly? Apparently kids have no preference in taste, and would smoke burning garbage if they looked cool.

I appreciate your efforts "Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids", but get your facts straight.  

Edited by Sinikal, 14 January 2010 - 02:24 PM.

[Lordvapor]

Christopher, on 14 January 2010 - 01:43 PM, said:

This is Awesome News. (And you thought we went to New York to work on units )

We have not one the war, but this is a major battle won! Especially with some of the things we are working on out here in New York, you can expect some very cool products coming to the Vapor Talk store this year....

I couldn't have said it better..    Cant wait to see new products

[vapersplace]

Dr. Michael Siegel.....

http://tobaccoanalys...rules-that.html

[dlynne]

vapersplace, on 14 January 2010 - 02:50 PM, said:

Dr. Michael Siegel.....

http://tobaccoanalys...rules-that.html

I just love Dr. Siegel.

[tikiburii]

HELL YEAH!!

[bzeisman]

makes me wonder if Marlboro stepped in and said something about this ruling. they were 'having talks' with other e-cig manufactures after all.

Edited by bzeisman, 14 January 2010 - 08:45 PM.

[AngelCruz]

Actually it is the Phillip morris co that is attempting to purchase the original patent on the electronic cigarette that was created back in 1963 by an inventor that realized back then that smoking was killing people I learned this prior to my finding the forums and was researching about an e-cig I have attempted to look for the webpage I read that stated phillip morris wanted to buy the design but it seems to have disappeared into censored oblivion (Imagine That! ) its great to see and hear that the Federal courts have made this prelim ruling but its just the start to a very big issue when the FDA and the WHO orgs should be looking at the regulatory effects of smoking and putting a stop to all the harmful chemicals going into todays tobacco products besides nicotine ( YA THINK ?! )

what I wonder is this even if we all went to our private Doctors and asked them to test us over a period of time in our vaping career's and pass on the results to the FDA and to a regulatory advisory board it would prove to be a conformation that one we are open to work with the government to make people understand it isn't harmful but alas they would find a way to make it inadmissible to the courts and it would be in vain as we have no say to aide in the acceptance of this only money will talk for the vaping community....here's my .002 cents


Peace and Vape On !


Angel

[CNubel]

Y'all, we won a very important battle today, but don't celebrate too long.  The war is just starting and it will go on for a long time.  The FDA and non-smoking groups will stop at nothing until ecigs are destroyed.  You can bet your last dollar on that fact.

[Schizophretard]

MD864, on 14 January 2010 - 12:27 PM, said:

Yes a Thank You to the Judge for thinking about and trying to understand the issue rather than just jumping in blindly.  HOWEVER, what will this do to us (the consumers) of this product and our safety?  No we don't want them taken away, but i'd still like to see some research and safety regulations enforced so as not to end up inhaling the "un-advertised" chemicals that some companies might decide to add in.  It is a step but not the giant leap that we're all hoping for yet!

The free market can research and regulate itself. What law is forcing Chris to test for lead in his juices?

[kato07]

this ruling gives all of us who have quit smoking and feel so much healthier because of vaping a sense of relief that there are at least some people who have the power to make a difference, who will 'just say no' to the forces of greed and ignorance. thank you so much to U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon from all of us!!!

[Schizophretard]

Does this mean that for now we don't have to worry about shipments from China being seized by the FDA?

[vapersplace]

AngelCruz, on 14 January 2010 - 10:43 PM, said:

Actually it is the Phillip morris co that is attempting to purchase the original patent on the electronic cigarette that was created back in 1963 by an inventor that realized back then that smoking was killing people I learned this prior to my finding the forums and was researching about an e-cig I have attempted to look for the webpage I read that stated phillip morris wanted to buy the design but it seems to have disappeared into censored oblivion (Imagine That! ) its great to see and hear that the Federal courts have made this prelim ruling but its just the start to a very big issue when the FDA and the WHO orgs should be looking at the regulatory effects of smoking and putting a stop to all the harmful chemicals going into todays tobacco products besides nicotine ( YA THINK ?! )

what I wonder is this even if we all went to our private Doctors and asked them to test us over a period of time in our vaping career's and pass on the results to the FDA and to a regulatory advisory board it would prove to be a conformation that one we are open to work with the government to make people understand it isn't harmful but alas they would find a way to make it inadmissible to the courts and it would be in vain as we have no say to aide in the acceptance of this only money will talk for the vaping community....here's my .002 cents


Peace and Vape On !


Angel

http://www.e-cig.org...o-cigarette.pdf

[SmokinHammer]

I think I'll have to write the fine folks at Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids and remind them that the thing that tastes like bubble gun and is bad for kids...  is bubble gum.