shen_long86 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 hey guys i just got my 26650 cartel copper mech mod and i got 2 mnke 26650 imr batteries with it and an nitecore intellicharger i2. my question is how long do these batts usually take to charge? i put the batteries in the charger at 1 pm, so it has been about 5 1/2 hrs since i put them on charge and all 3 lights have stopped blinking and are solid yellow. does this mean that they are only half way charged? i did test one after the lights stopped flashing but it barely worked, so i am assuming they are not fully charged. i apologize guys this is my very first mech mod and i am not used to having to charge batts this way, this is the only reason why i am asking... -thx drake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling789 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) As it charges, the lights blink, one light, then two, then three, when they're all solid, it's fully charged For the initial charge of a new battery, I like to charge them, then pull them off the charger for about 4 hours, then put them back on the charger. When you say "barely works", did you check it with a volt-meter to see if it was charged? Edited March 7, 2015 by Earthling789 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen_long86 Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 Dont have a volt meter...by barely works i mean i put it in the mod and get very little vapor production...and both my rda's are running dual 0.8 ohm builds that work fine on my ipv mini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling789 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 A mechanical mod @ 4.1V and 0.8 Ohms, is only 21W of power. I'm assuming you run your IPV-mini higher than that? If so, that would make the difference, because the mech cannot possibly produce more Wattage unless you lower the resistance of your atty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen_long86 Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 No i usually run my ipv between 21 and 25 watts...and i get more vapor off that than my mech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling789 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Odd... perhaps you need to adjust your top-connector screw for a better/tighter connection? Four Watts is not a lot of power, but in the scheme of overall power, 25W is 20% more power than the mech can produce, so that is a huge difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen_long86 Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 I tried all adjustments i could think of...eg 510/battery screw, and the pin on the fire switch...still no improvement. I am going to take it all to local b&m tomorrow and have them check it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling789 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Did you clean it well? Sometimes the excess machining oils and packing oil can cause huge Voltage drops when you fire it. One of the Brass mods I have did exactly that until I cleaned it top to bottom, inside and out... including all the threaded areas... After it was cleaned well, it worked beautifully. If that is not the case, perhaps someone can give you an hand with adjusting it properly for optimal performance. The Cartel is a good looking mod, and should work as good as it looks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen_long86 Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 How should i clean it?...vodka soak, plain water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling789 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 I've cleaned heavily oiled ones with a little dish-soap and warm water... just make sure to let all the parts dry WELL before you re-assemble it. If it is just a little oily/dirty, a good metal polish and soft cloth will do just as well. Use a nail-brush or old toothbrush for the threaded areas and be sure to polish it to a high-shine. I also put a tiny bit of Vaseline on the threaded areas, especially on Copper mods, to prevent the parts from locking together. Copper is really bad for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen_long86 Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 Gotcha thx earthling will go and clean it and let it air dry over night and test it again tomorrow. Before i head to my b&m, also going to try another build...probably around 0.5 and see if that helps as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling789 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 NP... let us know how it works tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen_long86 Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 Will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaping_jake Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Curious; when you shake it do you get battery rattle? Also did you wind the top adjusting screw out and let your rda screw in all the way down then tighten your center post? i like to screw the center post back a bit tighten down the rda until i cant, back off the center post some more and tighten down the rda again, and finally tighten the center post back up. this way i know they are connecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaping_jake Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 By the way i also have a I2 charger and love it, works flawlessly. I was picking up a the D4, digital version of the I4, but where i was purchasing it it was out of stock so I went with the efest luc 4 charger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen_long86 Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 Curious; when you shake it do you get battery rattle? Also did you wind the top adjusting screw out and let your rda screw in all the way down then tighten your center post? i like to screw the center post back a bit tighten down the rda until i cant, back off the center post some more and tighten down the rda again, and finally tighten the center post back up. this way i know they are connecting. Jake i did the adjustment so there isnt any battery rattle and i did adjust the 510 pin to for my rda...and it still wasnt working properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonculp Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 i put the batteries in the charger at 1 pm, so it has been about 5 1/2 hrs since i put them on charge and all 3 lights have stopped blinking and are solid yellow. This is the thing that concerns me. I have never had any of mine do this. My I4 with go solid green when charged. I, like you, don't have a lot of experience so I could be wrong. I think possibly you got a bad batch of batteries, or some that have discharged too much, or the charger isn't charging them. A multimeter might help you narrow it down. (like Earthling789 said) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen_long86 Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 This is the thing that concerns me. I have never had any of mine do this. My I4 with go solid green when charged. I, like you, don't have a lot of experience so I could be wrong. I think possibly you got a bad batch of batteries, or some that have discharged too much, or the charger isn't charging them. A multimeter might help you narrow it down. (like Earthling789 said) That is my same thoughts jason...but i did clean it last night and let it air dry...just reassembled and adjusted and it hits a little bit harder but not much...even with a new 0.6 ohm build on the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling789 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Yep, something isn't right... fully charged, those batteries should push 4.1V minimum (closer to 4.2V) and @ 0.6 Ohms, that's 28-29W! I'm leaning towards bad batteries... but you'll only know that if you can get a meter on them. Cleaning your MOD should have minimized Voltage drop issues, and an all Copper Cartel should have negligible Voltage drop! Copper is an EXCELLENT conductor of electricity Thinking back... 5.5 hours on the charger to reach full on the i2 power meter seems high too... even when I've drained mine to minimum levels, they charge fully within 3 hours on my i4 charger. That may be a good indication those batteries were drained too low (before you got them) and are now damaged, or the were a bad batch to begin with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen_long86 Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 Yea earthling that is what i am leaning towards as well...i will find out later when i take it up to my b&m to have them check the batts. I think that they may have been bad when the other guy bought them originally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling789 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Might have been bad before... or, most likely the other guy drained them too far down, thus damaging them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen_long86 Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 Yup earthling it was the batts they were junk...got 2 mxjo 26650 imr's 3500 mah and it chucks like it should now...and the guys at the shop were jealous that i got this mod for a steal. jasonculp and GeorgeF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonculp Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Cool! I bet you will enjoy that setup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen_long86 Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 Oh yea jason...they also built a new dual coil setup at 0.45 with 26ga and it works great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling789 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Awesome! Glad you got it running right! I'm slightly jealous now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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