CASEACE79

Well you have a lot of really good questions and congrats on making the effort to quit. I haven't had a real cigarette in over 2 years. This really does work. It is not a gimmick. So let's get into your questions and then I'll make some recommendations. First let's talk about the difference between the eGo-T and eGo-C. The eGo-T was the 1st tank style eGo. The "T" stands for tank. The mouthpiece is the tank for the device. The cone and atomizer are built in together and screw into the battery. Inside of the cone there is a spike that pierces into the mouthpiece. The liquid goes into the spike which feeds into the atomizer. The eGo-C is the exact same system except that the cone and atomizer are separate from each other. Making replacements cheaper to buy. Now on to the bad news. Both have their flaws. The tanks are really,really small and need to be refilled quite frequently. You also can't draw on them very hard at all otherwise you get this annoying whistle and it can cause leaking. They are also known for dry hits. So what's the difference between atomizers, cartomizers, and clearomizers. Atomizers basically are a tube with a piece of silica wick at the bottom that sits in a ceramic cup. The wick is wrapped with wire that heats up and vaporizes the juice. The downside to this is you need to drip 4-5 drops on the atomizer at a time. Vape the liquid away (about 8-10puffs) and repeat the process. Not very conducive to driving and you can over drip which causes leaking. Cartomizers were created to address the constant dripping issue. It's relatively the same size tube as an atomizer and it also has a coil that heats up the e liquid but that coil is surrounded by a poly fill material that holds more juice. You can also get cartomizer tanks (often referred to as carto tanks) which is a tank that surrounds the cartomizer, the cartomizer has one or more holes in it to continually feed the poly fill inside the cartomizer. The downside is that many people find the flavor of an atomizer much cleaner than a cartomizer. Honestly not enough to outweigh it's convenience IMO. You may get a batch where a couple are bad but the good news is that they're cheap. Clearomizers are the idea of putting an atomizer inside of a tank. They do not work consistently enough for me to recommend any of them. They have all had wicking problems and one will be amazing and the next one you will have to throw away after 5 min. of using it. The atomizer can't sit on the bottom of the tank as if it's completely surrounded by liquid it's flooded and can't produce vapor. Soo you have to put it above where the juice is, but then you have the problem of getting the juice from the bottom up to where the coil is. They try to accomplish this by having long strands of wick going down into the tank. Only problem is that the whole system is fighting itself. Gravity is trying to keep the juice going downward while the wick is trying to work juice up to the coil. Resulting in dry hits. The vivi nova works the best out of all of them but you still get some that are bad out of the box. So automatic and manual batteries. Automatic batteries require you to inhale to activate. Unfortunately they aren't sealed and juice WILL eventually get down in the battery causing it to short out. Always go with a manual battery. So on to my recommendations. I would stay away from the eGo-T and eGo-C kits. I would recommend a couple eGo twist batteries, charger and carto tank. The ego twist is a lot like the standard eGo batteries except you can adjust your voltage between 3.2 to 4.8 volts. Higher voltage creates more heat and more vapor. eGo Twist starter kit I know I said to stay away from the clearomizers but the kit is cheaper than buying the batteries and charger seperately. And this way you can decide for yourself. Here's a pretty nice tank. It's made of glass as some juices react with plastic tanks. [url="[url="http://www.valleyvapes.com/Triple-V-Pyrex-4ml-Premium-Tank_p_71.html"] They also carry cartomizers on the same site. And you'll need a carto punching tool to put holes in your cartomizers. It's not the best carto punching tool but it's cheap and it'll work. [url="[url="http://www.valleyvapes.com/Cartomizer-Punch_p_15.html"] It may seem like I'm pushing valleyvapes but I'm not. Honestly never even shopped there. Was just looking for a cheap starter kit and they just so happened to have a nice carto tank setup. Just trying to save you money not having to pay shipping from 5 different places. If you need anything just PM me. Worst case scenario is we do a Skype call to make sure you're good to go. I'd say good luck but it really isn't that hard.

As far as quick shipping http://www.juicyvapor.com Has different size sample packs. Not with all of their flavors though as they have way too many. Some fun ones they have are Ecto-plasma and Fruit striped gum. Another vendor a lot of people like that have sample packs is http://www.rawrvapor.com

As far as quick shipping http://www.juicyvapor.com Has different size sample packs. Not with all of their flavors though as they have way too many. Some fun ones they have are Ecto-plasma and Fruit striped gum. Another vendor a lot of people like that have sample packs is http://www.rawrvapor.com

Not a problem. I have been exactly where you are. Actually it was Uma and a couple others who have me advice on picking up my 1st eGo kit over 2 yrs. ago. Very similar to what you got except there wasn't any VV options then. Lucky dog!!! Lol!!!

Hi Uma! The only reason I didn't recommend a tobacco isn't because I don't like them cause I love a good tobacco. For a new vaper though I think it's easier to find a fruit flavor or bakery flavor. Tobaccos automatically have something going against them when it comes to a new vaper. The preconceived notion that tobacco means that it tastes like a cigarette. Well you and I know that a cigarette flavor is impossible. To truly appreciate a tobacco you have to first understand how we taste vapor. To me vapor is more tied to smell than taste. When we taste a strawberry we get texture, juice, temperature ect. When we taste vapor none of that is present. Wrapping your brain around this concept allows us to appreciate a good tobacco. A good tobacco to me will taste like good pipe tobacco smells or how a freshly opened pack of cigarette or cigar smells. I just think as a new vapor understanding that is asking a bit much. Lol.

@Uma thanks I will def be trying that out! I made a post to find different sites that offer packages where you can but sample packages of all of their flavors to figure out which ones you would like the best, do you know any besides aliceinvapeland.com? I want to order there's but it takes too long as caseace had said :-/

@case thanks so much you've been a really huge help :*)

CaseAce has your back. The only thing I can think of to add, is the prefilled Honey Flue Cured Tobacco from LiquidXpress.com 12mg if they have it.
It might not be your cuppa-tea... some love it (like me) and some hate it. But I leave you the link, because I don't know what side of the fence you'll fall on. If nothing else, they're great for in a pinch when your other carto's need replacing or whatever. Never hurts to have backups! Just ask Nana.

Nope the kit is perfect. You did great. Keep in mind that even if you don't like the flavor of the juice that it doesn't mean vaping won't work for you. There are literally 1,000s of different flavors. You might want to pick up some blank cartomizers to refill yourself with whatever juice you want. The brand most of us like are made by Boge. Here's just one link. You may find them cheaper as there are tons of vendors who carry them. http://old.310vapers.com/e-cigarette-accessories/e-cigarette-cartomizers/bulk-deals/boge-lr-cartomizers-15-pack-mix-n-match.html# Here is a great carto filling tutorial. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PICBRi37Zs0 Also try and stay away from tobacco flavors as they really don't taste like a cigarette. A lot of vendors have sample packs so you can try lots of flavors. I'd I have yet to find someone that didn't find at least 2-3 flavors in their "a little bit of everything" sample pack that they love. http://www.aliceinvapeland.com Now only do this after you order samples from a different vendor first as Alice In Vapeland takes up to 2 weeks to ship. They are very popular and a very small organization.

Well you have a lot of really good questions and congrats on making the effort to quit. I haven't had a real cigarette in over 2 years. This really does work. It is not a gimmick. So let's get into your questions and then I'll make some recommendations. First let's talk about the difference between the eGo-T and eGo-C. The eGo-T was the 1st tank style eGo. The "T" stands for tank. The mouthpiece is the tank for the device. The cone and atomizer are built in together and screw into the battery. Inside of the cone there is a spike that pierces into the mouthpiece. The liquid goes into the spike which feeds into the atomizer. The eGo-C is the exact same system except that the cone and atomizer are separate from each other. Making replacements cheaper to buy. Now on to the bad news. Both have their flaws. The tanks are really,really small and need to be refilled quite frequently. You also can't draw on them very hard at all otherwise you get this annoying whistle and it can cause leaking. They are also known for dry hits. So what's the difference between atomizers, cartomizers, and clearomizers. Atomizers basically are a tube with a piece of silica wick at the bottom that sits in a ceramic cup. The wick is wrapped with wire that heats up and vaporizes the juice. The downside to this is you need to drip 4-5 drops on the atomizer at a time. Vape the liquid away (about 8-10puffs) and repeat the process. Not very conducive to driving and you can over drip which causes leaking. Cartomizers were created to address the constant dripping issue. It's relatively the same size tube as an atomizer and it also has a coil that heats up the e liquid but that coil is surrounded by a poly fill material that holds more juice. You can also get cartomizer tanks (often referred to as carto tanks) which is a tank that surrounds the cartomizer, the cartomizer has one or more holes in it to continually feed the poly fill inside the cartomizer. The downside is that many people find the flavor of an atomizer much cleaner than a cartomizer. Honestly not enough to outweigh it's convenience IMO. You may get a batch where a couple are bad but the good news is that they're cheap. Clearomizers are the idea of putting an atomizer inside of a tank. They do not work consistently enough for me to recommend any of them. They have all had wicking problems and one will be amazing and the next one you will have to throw away after 5 min. of using it. The atomizer can't sit on the bottom of the tank as if it's completely surrounded by liquid it's flooded and can't produce vapor. Soo you have to put it above where the juice is, but then you have the problem of getting the juice from the bottom up to where the coil is. They try to accomplish this by having long strands of wick going down into the tank. Only problem is that the whole system is fighting itself. Gravity is trying to keep the juice going downward while the wick is trying to work juice up to the coil. Resulting in dry hits. The vivi nova works the best out of all of them but you still get some that are bad out of the box. So automatic and manual batteries. Automatic batteries require you to inhale to activate. Unfortunately they aren't sealed and juice WILL eventually get down in the battery causing it to short out. Always go with a manual battery. So on to my recommendations. I would stay away from the eGo-T and eGo-C kits. I would recommend a couple eGo twist batteries, charger and carto tank. The ego twist is a lot like the standard eGo batteries except you can adjust your voltage between 3.2 to 4.8 volts. Higher voltage creates more heat and more vapor. eGo Twist starter kit I know I said to stay away from the clearomizers but the kit is cheaper than buying the batteries and charger seperately. And this way you can decide for yourself. Here's a pretty nice tank. It's made of glass as some juices react with plastic tanks. [url="[url="http://www.valleyvapes.com/Triple-V-Pyrex-4ml-Premium-Tank_p_71.html"] They also carry cartomizers on the same site. And you'll need a carto punching tool to put holes in your cartomizers. It's not the best carto punching tool but it's cheap and it'll work. [url="[url="http://www.valleyvapes.com/Cartomizer-Punch_p_15.html"] It may seem like I'm pushing valleyvapes but I'm not. Honestly never even shopped there. Was just looking for a cheap starter kit and they just so happened to have a nice carto tank setup. Just trying to save you money not having to pay shipping from 5 different places. If you need anything just PM me. Worst case scenario is we do a Skype call to make sure you're good to go. I'd say good luck but it really isn't that hard.

It's like all these mod makers know it's tax time. Lol!!! If I can swing it cool. If not I'm sure the next "shiny" is right around the corner. Some of Gepetto's stuff just isn't me. The devil and horror stuff just ain't my style. I do appreciate it though. It's just with pieces like that I think it should go to someone it fits to truly be appreciated. I'll only try for pieces that speak to me. The two above do. I would love to own either.

It's by Stiff over at vapor wall. Just concerned with the timing of everything. The Orion V3 is soon and he's making a limited run of these that I may or may not make be able to swing. I'm not missing the Orion that's for sure. If not I'll just have to save up for a Gepetto pipe. or Man is a genius! Vapable art!!!

Hoping to get this one.

Oh and also you can use a pair of tweezers to crimp the coil around the backside of the wick. The idea isn't to get the wick closer to the post as it is to have as little room as possible when the coil leaves the surface of the wick to the positive post.

I've tried Bobas on 32g,30g,and 28g but only with 400 mesh. All of which aren't nearly as good as a carto tank. You're right Bobas would probably shine on the spheroid. Holding off on the spheroid till I get my pipe.

Just got some juice from heathers heavenly vapes. $13 for 30ml is a great price. Not to mention their juice is awesome.

Gotta get me some of these. Now those are drip tips.

Weird went to edit my last post and it created another. Damn tapatalk. Well guess I'll do it this way. These guys are using clay, tru stone, carbon fiber, wood, and kanthal wire. Now we're talkin!

Gotta get me some of these. Now those are drip tips.

Also what voltage are you using with what ohm atomizer? Plays a huge role in throat hit. As far as vendors please try http://www.aliceinvapeland.com order their "A little bit of everything" sample pack. I haven't met anyone who ordered it that didn't find at least 2 or 3 flavors they didn't fall in love with. I'm really picky when it comes to juice. I vaped the same juice every day for over a yr. without finding something I could vape for more than an hr. without switching back and I fell in love with 4 flavors from AIV. Shipping right now takes a really long time though as they have just moved their entire shop across country. Takes 10-14 days to ship but it's mixed to order and well worth it.

Rick is also someone I pay close attention to as a reviewer. He is a bit of a Jim fanboy but that's not really fair to Jim because there is good reason Rick likes his products soo much. He's just that damn good. Lol.

I know a lot of you are aware of the Orion. Well the V3 is just on the horizon. (Within the next month) I am one of the 1st 50 on the list so I'll update this thread with any and all new info. First lets go into what the Orion is first and then I'll go into what's new in the V3. The Orion is a Hybrid device (the genesis atomizer is permanently affixed to the body of the device) made by Les (Nosmoker on the forums) out of Germany. The top cap and mouthpiece are one unit. The button is an electrical button developed by a guy named pailpoe from France. It can be run with one sleeve for an 18350 or add another sleeve to accommodate An 18650. It's known for it's amazing flavor compared to other hybrids. The list (which is very long) can be found on http://www.vaporwall.com. I personally have been on it for over 4 months now. (I was given the opportunity to buy the V2.1 in Dec. but passed due to the V3 coming out) Ok now on to what is new about the Orion V3. Part of the reason for such the long delay in production is that Les was acquiring patents for some things on the device. The V3 has a new air intake and draw control ring, which honestly is brilliant. It also reduces leaking that plagues genesis atomizers. And that's pretty much all we know at this point. Here are a couple pics of the air intake and control ring. Keep in mind that this is still a prototype if ya can believe it.

i got ya Rixter and my post wasn't to call you out but to clarify and reiterate what I and you were saying. And we thought Ohms law math was the most confusing part of this conversation. Lol

Yes using standard attys, cartos, clearos that use the same gauge wire running at 9w would taste identical. When you start using different gauge wire it is not the case. You could make a 2ohm coil with 32g kanthal and one with 28 gauge kanthal and they taste way different.

Yes using standard attys, cartos, clearos that use the same gauge wire running at 9w would taste identical. When you start using different gauge wire it is not the case. You could make a 2ohm coil with 32g kanthal and one with 28 gauge kanthal and they taste way different. So much so I could pick them out blindfolded.