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    Burn got a reaction from Brian in Cartomizers, Vapor Talk, And Cartridges?   
    I may make an assumption here so I will apologize ahead of time. If you are 18 or older and your parents ground you or wont allow you to make a small credit card purchase. I do apologize for making a statement that does not apply to you. If you are indeed 18 or older and getting grounded by your parents, as a token of my sincere regret, I can refer you to some terrific therapists that you may seek out in the future.

    If you are under 18, it is illegal for you to purchase electronic cigarettes as it is with tobacco based cigarettes. Not only will you cause risk to yourself with the law but you will also cause risk to the vendor that irresponsibly or unknowingly sold these to you. The electronic cigarette industry has been under fire for underage users of this product and these sales to minors are being leveraged to ban electronic cigarettes altogether. For the sake of the people that enjoy or depend on these devices to rid themselves of tobacco, I kindly urge you not to purchase these devices.

    On a personal and humanitarian note, Picking up nicotine in the form of tobacco is one of the stupidest decisions i have ever made and I have made some doozies. I suspect there are others on this forum that feel the same way about the horrible day when they smoked for the first time. If you can stop now, please do, I assure you, avoiding very addictive nicotine now will all you to avoid writing a forum post like I am in the future when you reach your 30's

    good luck!
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    Burn got a reaction from noXious in Cost   
    I beleive it is far cheaper to DIY. My recent calculations has me at $.13 per ML, please bear in mind, I am at 8MG strenght, even 24MG would be under $.50/ml

    Startup cost really isnt that bad. All you really need is dropper bottles ($.79/ea for 2dram size), rubber gloves and pipettes for transferring liquid. My Original start up costs (equipment) was under $20

    For materials, I use 100MG base liquid that I get for $99 for 250ML, at 8MG strength and consuming 5ML per day, that is almost a 2 year supply. PG or VG is fairly inexpensive (make sure it is USP)as well. Many can find it locally, I just get it from online vendors. Flavoring was the key, I did not like Loranns oils very much or capellas flavorings. What I did find is that I LOVE Decadent Vapours, which is sold over at TW (Totally Wicked).

    Putting the mixes together is not any more complicated that being able to count drops. You have 3 basic ingredients, liquid nic, flavoring and a dilutent. You count the drops of the 3 to make the mix. You DO want to be careful and respectful of the liquid nic power. As long as you are not reckless or sloppy about it (I make my mixes in my kitchen sink) you can be very safe.

    O.k. now for some linkage:

    Here is where I got all of my supplies:

    2dram plastic bottles, latex gloves, syringes, pipettes and PG/VG are all priced nicely at:

    http://www.ecigexpress.com/diy-supplies-c-3

    Liquid Nicotine is purchased here, I can state from experience that the quality of the liquid is very good:

    http://myfreedomsmokes.com/diy.html

    Finally, the flavorings:

    The native site of the supplier (not a store) is:

    http://www.be9.net/decadentvapours/flavours.htm
    (favorite flavors include; apple pie, cafe brasiliano, french apple tart, Strawberry tart, Tiramisu, Choc o Mint, Mentholyptus and Sour Cherry)

    These can be purchased at Totally Wicked
    http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com/products/e-liquid-flavourings/decadent-vapours-10ml-flavour-2-product.html
    (this British company ships out of the US so dont let the funny accents and bad teeth fool you)

    And finally, you need to create the recipes to make your mixes. There are many but I use this one:

    http://www.tji-java-ide.com/e-cigarette/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=88

    You can save your recipes, which is handy. You will see one towards the bottom called: "Decadent Vapors (Any Flavor) by Burn". That is my base recipe that I use, I created it when I was at 12 MG strength.

    Whomever starts mixing their own, enjoy. Fresh juice, ability to customize and cost will all be benefits you will enjoy when creating your own.
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    Burn got a reaction from nana in Cost   
    I beleive it is far cheaper to DIY. My recent calculations has me at $.13 per ML, please bear in mind, I am at 8MG strenght, even 24MG would be under $.50/ml

    Startup cost really isnt that bad. All you really need is dropper bottles ($.79/ea for 2dram size), rubber gloves and pipettes for transferring liquid. My Original start up costs (equipment) was under $20

    For materials, I use 100MG base liquid that I get for $99 for 250ML, at 8MG strength and consuming 5ML per day, that is almost a 2 year supply. PG or VG is fairly inexpensive (make sure it is USP)as well. Many can find it locally, I just get it from online vendors. Flavoring was the key, I did not like Loranns oils very much or capellas flavorings. What I did find is that I LOVE Decadent Vapours, which is sold over at TW (Totally Wicked).

    Putting the mixes together is not any more complicated that being able to count drops. You have 3 basic ingredients, liquid nic, flavoring and a dilutent. You count the drops of the 3 to make the mix. You DO want to be careful and respectful of the liquid nic power. As long as you are not reckless or sloppy about it (I make my mixes in my kitchen sink) you can be very safe.

    O.k. now for some linkage:

    Here is where I got all of my supplies:

    2dram plastic bottles, latex gloves, syringes, pipettes and PG/VG are all priced nicely at:

    http://www.ecigexpress.com/diy-supplies-c-3

    Liquid Nicotine is purchased here, I can state from experience that the quality of the liquid is very good:

    http://myfreedomsmokes.com/diy.html

    Finally, the flavorings:

    The native site of the supplier (not a store) is:

    http://www.be9.net/decadentvapours/flavours.htm
    (favorite flavors include; apple pie, cafe brasiliano, french apple tart, Strawberry tart, Tiramisu, Choc o Mint, Mentholyptus and Sour Cherry)

    These can be purchased at Totally Wicked
    http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com/products/e-liquid-flavourings/decadent-vapours-10ml-flavour-2-product.html
    (this British company ships out of the US so dont let the funny accents and bad teeth fool you)

    And finally, you need to create the recipes to make your mixes. There are many but I use this one:

    http://www.tji-java-ide.com/e-cigarette/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=88

    You can save your recipes, which is handy. You will see one towards the bottom called: "Decadent Vapors (Any Flavor) by Burn". That is my base recipe that I use, I created it when I was at 12 MG strength.

    Whomever starts mixing their own, enjoy. Fresh juice, ability to customize and cost will all be benefits you will enjoy when creating your own.
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    Burn got a reaction from Phaseman66 in Ms. T Multi Flavor Review   
    I really like Vapor Fiend's template for reviews. Presuming he doesn't object, I will use this for mine. Very nice for reading.

    Ms. T Baker Essentials (http://mstsbakery.com) is a "hand made" e-liquid shop. Ms. T (Tammy) makes all of these herself upon order, similar to tasty vapors. Her service is excellent. Not knowing this was a one person shop, I called the customer service number (hoping to not get routed to China) to inquire about the flavors and Ms.T answered. She walked me through her menu and made some suggestions. I bought 12 total flavors, some fruit, some desserts, a coffee and some mints. Available in 6, 10 and 15 ML, reasonably priced for hand made mixes. Here is a review of the 6.

    24MG PG/VG mix (currently only available as her PG/VG blend)

    Overall: Personal tastes are going to vary as well as performance. I have vaped at LEAST 3 ML of each that were reviewed. These were all done on a Standard 510, without any mods. While the appeal of the flavors do vary as well as my impressions I do stand firm in one area. The e-juice is of high quality and you can tell it was made shortly before shipping. Many stock brands are sitting in a warehouse for months before delivery. You can tell the difference in the quality of a made to order liquid.


    Red Hot Cinnamon Sticks: Smells very good and the taste is certainly cinnamon. It was very good when I first tired it but after a ml or 2 it felt somewhat weak. I didn't notice any real aftertaste. It is a bit sweeter than I hoped but I love strong cinnamon, like red hots or hot tamales. this is more along the lines of cinnamon gum. I did finish the 6ml bottle and I found other alternatives I like better so I will buy those. If you like cinnamon gum or flavored toothpicks, I would recommend this for that taste. Atomic Fireball fan? Keep on looking.
    Score: Smell= 8, Taste=8, Vapor Production=5, Throat Hit=6. Grade: B-


    Peach: Tastes and smells more like a fruit blend but not peach. The flavor was o.k. but not great. I also had Apricot and it tasted very similar to that. The Fruit flavors I was seeking was almost jolly rancher strong. This peach is very sweet and really didn't have a distinguished peach taste. Not only was it not what I had expected but it really did not taste that appealing to me. I did finish the 6ml bottle but wont buy this again.
    Score: Smell=5, Taste=4, Vapor Production=6, Throat Hit=6. Grade: C-

    Blueberry Muffin: The smell is excellent and fruity. The taste is sensational. What a pleasant surprise. I had heard this was good and the real product exceeded that. It really tastes like a warm blueberry muffin. The muffin and blueberry are not distinct flavors, which is a good thing. The flavors are well blended and come across as one flavor, just as the muffin does. Inhale is mostly sweet the real payoff is the exhale. Complex flavors but really blended as one pastry would be, Outstanding! A premium breakfast/dessert vape. I highly recommend this flavor. So good when I have it with my morning ice coffee.
    Score: Smell=9, Taste=10, Vapor Production=8, Throat Hit=6. Grade: A+

    Wintergreen: Wintergreen is one of my favorite flavors of candy/gum and I was really looking forward to this one. Smell is very faint, almost no smell. Taste on inhale is not sweet and a bit medicinal. Exhale is rather bland with a faint wintergreen taste and medicinal aftertaste. My expectations were high but even with moderate hope, it just didn't have much flavor. I could not get through 2Mls of it. I did add some Ethyl Maltol to it to reduce the aftertaste and add some sweetness. I also added some Loranns wintergreen and some sucralose (liquid splenda) and I got it pretty close to what
    I was hoping for. The aftertaste was lessened but still there. I was very disappointed and surprised this was the same maker as the other juices I received. I cant recommend this to any fan of the flavor. It could be just the mix but the other mint flavors I tried had the same issues.
    Score: Smell=3, Taste=2, Vapor Production=4, Throat Hit=4. Grade: F

    Butterscotch Pudding: The smell is quite good and I could pickup on the butterscotch right away. The taste is very good, overall. Inhale is sweet with some butterscotch. Exhale is all butterscotch and cream, pretty simple makeup. It is a single flavor and I couldn't help but wonder if it was better as a multi flavor, with chocolate for instance. It is more creamy, like pudding than it is a candy. I think it is very pleasant and would satisfy a butterscotch palette. I would buy again.
    Score: Smell=8, Taste=9, Vapor Production=6, Throat Hit=5. Grade: B+

    French Toast: I am not a huge fan of French Toast, as many are but I did like it enough to try it for variety.The smell is very good and accurate, strong maple smell. The taste was a very big and pleasant surprise for me. Inhale is sweet with strong maple. Exhale is a terrific blend of maple, bread, butter and even cinnamon. I am amazed, once again how much it tastes like a baked product instead of a menu of flavors you would associate with the confection. The Maple is strong and I am sure that is intentional and loved by most. I am not a huge maple fan so I couldn't vape it all day. The quality and accuracy is unavoidable, even for someone, like me, who orders this breakfast twice a year, if that.
    Score: Smell=10, Taste=9, Vapor Production=8, Throat Hit=8. Grade: A-

    Bonus Flavor: T's Morning Blend: This is not an available flavor on the site, in fact Ms.T doesn't even know it by that name. When I called her shop, I asked her what was her favorite flavor. Of course, she didn't have one... I asked her what was in her e-cig right now. She said "a 50/50 mix of Butterscotch Pudding and French Toast". I also tried the mix and it is really, really good. The flavors mix quite well even though the butterscotch loses its creaminess. The Maple flavor become more of an accent and this combination, in my opinion, is better combined that the 2 flavors alone. This blend is just a hair below blueberry muffin as my favorite from Ms. T. An all day blend, great in the morning, with your coffee that I really recommend.
    Score: Smell=9, Taste=10, Vapor Production=8, Throat Hit=7. Grade: A

    Summary: The quality of these juices, even the ones I didn't care for were very good. I think DIY liquid makes a difference and if you want to see what I mean, try a place like Ms. T that does make these fresh juices from good flavorings. She defends her home turf very well, the bakery items are uncanny and this is what i will associate this vendor with. The fruits are fair and the mints were unusable to me, without modification. To be fair, most don't offer mint flavors (sans menthol) for probably a good reason. I wish every discerning vapor lover could get a pull of the Blueberry Muffin, it really is remarkable, even if you don't like the pastry very much.

    I like this distributor and will reorder the unique bakery flavors from Ms.T again.
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