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Hi Brian, No reason to have chills, taught me a very good lesson in life, woke me up and took the blinders off to the real evils in life. Strong, no I am not strong, but extremely nervous, hence my terrible vice. I happened to notice you have already spent &786.77. How is it you saved anything? Was this just to try out various devices? If so what mistakes would you recommend for me to avoid? I would not be able to afford that much and need to avoid any mistakes. One more question, in your experience regarding the eliquids, is there a big difference between where you buy them in so much as making them taste say, like a regular menthol analog? I have looked to find the cheapest eliquids I can find for menthol for cost purposes, and wondering if that is a mistake. Would the quality and taste of the cheaper eliquids possibly turn me off to this device? As I am now getting more of a handle on things, I am seeing how all of this is adding up even when just trying to keep it simple. 1 510 starter kit, $45, eliquid for 1 month= $50 to $60, and a cheaper passthrough for 510=about $16.99, car recharger for traveling or USB Passthrough Car Adaptor-$4.99 to $6.99, tea bags for mods=$3, NOT INCLUDING TAX AND SHIPPING. Estimate so far, $140-$160 with possibly tax and shipping. Now I am looking through more posts and it appears that the atty's burn out often and need extras of those to last at least 4-5 weeks, Joye510 Atomizer 5 pack=$39.99, now we need to add some more blank cartridges, kit come with 5 filled ones, Joye510 Cartridge Cores (5) x2= 10 carts = $6-$7. I know one should have a case, more batteries or another type of traveling charger, but I am excluding those for now to see what I absolutely need to spend for just 4-5 weeks worth. Is this starting to sound familiar? Do some people go overboard and buy so much more that can lead to over $700? Do they really need to spend this much? Ok, Now I am up to about $207-$215 with tax and shipping for the added atts and blank carts. I don't spend that much for analogs in the course of 4 to 5 weeks when I go the Reservation to buy them. LOL! I thought I was getting a grip on what I needed to get started and how all this made so much sense to me, now it is getting confusing as to savings and affordability. LOL!

Hi jnnfrlsw Nice to meet you. Congratulations. That seems to be a common theme here, and a strange one, why after vaping the analogs taste terrible. Good to know. I wonder why more people are not using these to quit? I first saw these advertized online for the first time last month. Never heard of them before despite it appears they have been out for at least 3 or 4 years. Can you please tell me how long it took from the time you placed your order to the time you received it from awesomeVapor? I have been trying NOT to buy any analogs so I can buy an ecig. But I am spending so much at my local store to get by another day until I figure this out. I know if I go to the Reservation and buy cheaper analogs now, I may not spend more to get the ecig, while I am trying to figure it out. I know now I am going to get the 510 for now with a manual battery type and some eliquid. Now I just have to find the best price and quickest shipping. Thank you for your post.

Hi Vegasvapor, I admit some models look so big and awkward to take out in public, glad you mentioned what I was wondering about last night. I will still look up The Spade. Thank You. Anyone try the mods? Which one has anyone found to work the Best? And if you do a mod with the Cart, how long do they become reusable? I can see where some of this can become costly and may need to try some of these other options to save the money.

Hi Kato07, I was looking at passthroughs last night. I am not understanding exactly what they do. For instance, I know they seem to have bigger batteries, and last longer, but can you use them while plugged in, not to waste your battery, say when you are just at home? Are there any chargers you can get to either warn you or stop charging the battery when they are done? Thank You for bringing this up.

Hi FTJoe, I am so happy you posted. I wanted to find you and tell you I am so happy you are one of the people who have chosen to get down to NO nicotine and succeeded. This is so encouraging. Thank You so much. Congratulations. I wonder if you were as heavy of a smoker as I am. I have tried to quit so many times. I am ashamed to say I was smoking up to 2 and 1/2 packs a day at times. I know this is no excuse, but I always seem to get into situations that add to stress and make me want to smoke more. AND TO BRIAN, (FDA GUY) I HOPE YOU READ THIS PART TOO! For years I was in a legal case that opened my eyes so wide I think I walked around in shock for a long while. I was once nothing more than a naive Christian housewife, and I loved helping my neighbors and loved all kids especially in the neighborhood. I volunteered my time and worked with handicapped children, including my own son. Then some years later, my special son began to have this strange dream. I can't go into details here, but it was always the same dream, and at the end of it, he was told by an angel he said that stood at the foot of his bed, to tell me to be prepared for things to come. The dream was detailed about what was to come into our lives and personal situation. Within a few months of this, my former husband turned into a monster trying to kill me. I could not believe it. I found out much later he was having an affair and had a devious plan to put own son in a State institution for the disabled, to avoid support, and the rest was to try to force me to leave by his abuse. I believe he wanted it to look like I abandoned him before a divorce he had planned but never told me about. This was, so he and his new Love could marry and take everything that was mine too. Long story short, I spent years with him dragging me through the Courts. During these years this man committed many crimes against both myself and his own son. He conned me out of our first property, then I got back on my feet and purchased a 2nd property on my own. Everyday both he and his girlfriend called and threatened me. Sometimes I would wake up to find damage to my car and property. One day he broke into my property while my son and I were visiting my Mom, and between him and his corrupt Attorney, they literally took over my property locking me out by changing the locks. This left my son and I homeless without even our clothes or personal belongings. Despite trying to bring charges in the Court to get my property back, and the local Police Department refusing to do anything because he had all my legal papers in the house, and they told me to take it to Court, his Attorney somehow managed to avoid everything and manipulate things. I could not get my property back by legal means. His corrupt Attorney even used fraud to evict my tenants who resided in the one apartment I rented out above the one I had resided in. I had so much legal evidence against them over time that they had to have a bailiff wheel it all out on a cart. Everyone in the Court laughed. The first Judge recused himself off the case. Then they began trying to threaten my mother who was dying of Cancer to try to get me to sign over a Quick Claim deed because he (former husband) could not get away with legally selling my property that he and his Attorney took by fraud. The threat they used again was to take my son away from me and hand him over to the State to be put in one of those residential facilities where they used to put away disabled kids, and fill them full of drugs to control them. After my mother passed away and I was really alone with no other family, he did the same thing again, after I got back on my feet. He was trying to take the property I now own, left to me by my mother. No matter what Attorney I hired, the Judges treated me like I was the criminal. I had so many strange situations occur during these times. I once met a private detective who chatted with me outside a Courtroom telling me, he just happened to be in the chambers while on another case, and overheard them making a deal against me with the Judge. I still was naïve, and did not believe him, despite him giving me his card and offering to help. I still believed the Courts were about truth and Justice. Of course, now I know better, they are Courts of equity run under the rules of Bankruptcy of a Bankrupt Nation. Have nothing to do with God, Truth, or the Balance of Justice. The Courts are about money and controlling their assets, meaning us. That was only the beginning. Things became rather bizarre after that. I finally caught on that no attorney will expose another, much less a Judge for corruption because they all belong to the same bar. You have to go out of state in a situation like this to get an Attorney that might even be willing to deal with something like this. One day, my son could not take it anymore. This was after years of my being held a hostage and prisoner in the Courts while crimes were being constantly committed against my son and I by those in the Courts. Everyday we were stalked, threatened and sometimes even physically attacked by my former husband and his cronies. He even tried several times to attack me right outside the Court room anytime he saw me show up by myself. Our lives were a Hell so long, I felt like we were living in Nazi Germany. My son could not take any more, and he threatened suicide. He said to me one day, “the reason I could not protect us was because I did not know how to think like the people who were doing these things to us.” He said “I never had evil thoughts like these people and could not understand their evil”. I prayed about it. Then I decided my son was right, I had to do something and deal with the evil. I was more like a flower child, not a fighter. All I wanted was to show others the Love of Jesus. I would help anyone who needed help regardless of what I had. I would babysit my neighbor’s children and sometimes bring home a hungry person and feed them. I had to learn how to fight evil both in the physical and in the spiritual. To do this I started spending all my time in the Law Libraries. I studied Law on my own. I spent much time in prayer and always prayed before entering the Courts. I had to learn spiritual warefare. God helped by having me meet people in the strangest of ways that taught me other things I needed to know. I sometimes felt like I was in the Twilight Zone. I could not believe what was happening to me. I was in the middle of something far bigger than just my own case. I found out there were many other people who were being perpetrated by fraud and the illegal taking of their properties and much worse by the same people doing it to me and there were Judges involved. While I was trying to learn, I once went to an Agency called “The Neighborhood Legal Services”, to see if I could get a free or cheap Attorney to represent me until I knew enough to represent myself. They had me pay a $300 fee and then set up another appointment for me to come in. I came next appointment, and they told me they had all their clients sit in a meeting where they would teach about their services and help them understand the laws. I sat in and listened. Then the person holding the meeting asked, “If anyone knew what the Constitution was?” I raised my hand proudly, and said it was really our “un-alienable rights” given to us by God and written by our forefathers for that purpose. As soon as I said that, I was kicked out and escorted out the door without any explanation told, "Not to Come Back". I was still so naïve; I was stunned and could not understand why. In the end, to try to make a long story short, I was shocked when I studied law besides what happened in my own case, I was nearly arrested for taking over my own case Pro Se. Over time, as I learned so much, I ended up indicting a Federal Court Judge and Three Attorneys’. They closed down the Federal Court that day to make sure that no one from the media had access to this information. I saw Attorneys running out of the Court crying because of my Indictment. It was what I found out by studying the laws and the history of law that shocked me the most. I saw years ago where we were really headed up front and personal. When I was done in the Courts, I had people following me and many threatening calls from lettered agencies many people never hear from. “If you know what I mean”. I became so angered by what I knew I started using my knowledge to help others. That was until one Judge openly admitted to me in front of other witnesses and right in his Court that there no longer was "A Constitution." I knew then, things had gone too far to deal with in the Courts. My hope in telling this story is for others to know these types of things are real and do happen to many others. I am an extremely nervous person, and for good reason. I saw and experienced the future we are now in and fought it years go in many ways I believe I was led to do. I could write a book about all the shocking things I saw and happened during those times. I am trying to help myself regain something I lost. My health and my ability to keep calm without this addiction. I could not have made it through what I did without Jesus being real and knowing him, and turning to him for his help, so I give him all the Credit. I want others to have Love and Hope and Strength and for us to Support each other. I am way out on a limb here, and I Sincerely hope with all my Heart and Love, that I have not offended anyone here or frightened anyone, but instead showed how we can have Courage, Love and Faith to overcome many things.

Hi Christopher, Yes, this helps immensely, now I am one step closer to choosing. Thank you so much!

Hi VegasVapor, Nice to meet the Moderator, Could you please tell me which Battery you prefer for this model, the automatic or the manual? Any pros and cons for either one? Thank You, God Bless

Can anyone tell me how many times can you refill (reuse) a blank cartridge? Also are there other ways to refill? I am hearing different terms like "dripping". Do the atomizers break down and need to be replaced and if so about how often? How often can a battery be recharged? I can see from one reply that at least 1 bottle of eliquid is needed per week, just trying to figure out other costs and products needed. Anyone know the best and cheapest place to buy eliquid? Any flavor recommendations for someone who is used to Menthol? What would taste most like a menthol analog. Thank You

Hi All, My head is swimming from trying to research this product. I am looking for an e-cig that is the most cost effective and lasting with the least amount of problems if possible. I cannot afford any mistakes right now or to buy the wrong product because cost is an issue. I was a heavy smoker, trying to quit. I am not doing well with the quitting part and under heavy stress. I am down to about 1 pack a day, and even that is a big struggle right now. I already posted in the "Noobie Questions and Help, under Tired Of Research...someone Tell Me What To Order!" by Leah. I actually had the same question and tired of the research. This was my previous post, in the wrong place! Sorry. "Hi, I have the same question? I am tired of researching and trying to find a product to buy? I am a heavy cig smoker for many many years. I smoke menthol Light cigarettes. My main concern right now is COST and trying to get through each day with this addiction, my stress level, and lost income. I lost much of my income in last 9 months and a nervous wreck. I also take care of my son who is multiply handicapped 24/7, and quite a challenge for someone all alone, not even any other family or help. I smoke about a carton a week and can no longer afford them, not even from the Indian Reservation. I am trying to quit smoking and not having much success. But I am down to about 1 pack per day on a good day. I have heard it is most cost effective to buy the liquid and refill. Can someone recommend what to buy that would be cost effective and LAST ME AT LEAST ONE MONTH OR MORE, and what would I need to buy to go with it? Is there a starter kit someone would recommend that would have all I need or most of what I need? I would like to buy from http://www.awesomevapor.com/ if possible, I like his simple but humble attitude and website as a small family business, any suggestions? Thank You so much for any help or suggestions" Thank you for the replies so far: Thank You Leah for your information and prayers. Great post filled with valuable info. FTJoe, thank you for the tips. Sorry for posting under Leah's Intro. I am not good with forums, and could not figure out after signing up where to post. Sorry about that. Brian, thank you for welcoming me to VT. Thank you for the link to your story, I am going to read it ASAP. Thank you all for this Forum, Support and Great Information.

Hi, I have the same question? I am tired of researching and trying to find a product to buy? I am a heavy cig smoker for many many years. I smoke menthol Light cigarettes. My main concern right now is COST and trying to get through each day with this addiction, my stress level, and lost income. I lost much of my income in last 9 months and a nervous wreck. I also take care of my son who is multiply handicapped 24/7, and quite a challenge for someone all alone, not even any other family or help. I smoke about a carton a week and can no longer afford them, not even from the Indian Reservation. I am trying to quit smoking and not having much success. But I am down to about 1 pack per day on a good day. I have heard it is most cost effective to buy the liquid and refill. Can someone recommend what to buy that would be cost effective and LAST ME AT LEAST ONE MONTH OR MORE, and what would I need to buy to go with it? Is there a starter kit someone would recommend that would have all I need or most of what I need? I would like to buy from http://www.awesomevapor.com/ if possible, I like his simple but humble attitude and website as a small family business, any suggestions? Thank You so much for any help or suggestions,