I was told to start with a 12 by the stup at the b&m that I went to. I was trying to quit smoking and had worked my way down to 6 cigs a day. I hated vaping 12 because I would take one or two hits and then hack my lung up. Fortunately I DID quit smoking, but it wasn't until I talked to someone else about reducing my nic levels that I started to LOVE vaping! The flavor! The yummy delicious flavor! I can chain vape all day long now and the only thing that hurts is my bank account! I'll take it![emoji3]