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Crown Pear from German Cancer Research Center pointed out that, the sweet flavor in vape will  stimulating consumption, which is irresistible to teenagers.” She said , the high and low volatile  nicotine in vape makes her worried. “It is poisoning the children.” A small bottle of common specification contains about 180 mg of nicotine in smoke fluid, actually this is for several days, but people never know it.It is said that adult lethal is the dose of 50 mg. Is electronic smoke vape pen playing jokes on people’s own life?

The data of nicotine lethal dose is quoted again and again, but has never been reliably tested. In 2014, Austrian toxicologist Baird Mayer, cracked to its reference: this terrible figure is a German pharmacist wrote at will more than 100 years ago, and he won this conclusion in an unconfirmed textbook based on the data in 1856 .
 
Since a century and a half, the unconfirmed “50 mg” that has been passed down from generations, while there were constantly someone smoking far exceeds the number of nicotine, when their bodies have no lasting damage. Copenhagen Bill Spielberg General Hospital recorded a case of  a 36 year old women. She tried to use smoke vaporizer liquid to commit suicide, swallow up to 1500 mg nicotine, which is the 30 times of the so-called  lethal dose. In the hospital, the patient kept complaining collywobbles, and frequent vomiting. The doctor gave her activated carbon, 6 hours later she recoveredfrom the hospital.

 
Some Essential Facts about Nicotine
Actually, the effect of this material to body has not much  difference compared to other “potentially dangerous” hobby products: 12 cups of coffee, in general, will make the heart beat faster.“Essentially, the dangers of nicotine to the body is not bigger than caffeine, it is just addictive.”Addiction research expert Batra said. And the intensity of addiction is really controversial. In animal experiments, smoking tobacco less addictive than pure nicotine smoking, in the process of forming a cigarette addiction, there are many other ingredients at the same time. Many electronic smokers seem to slowly reduce the demand for nicotine, turning to lower  nicotine content smoke fluid, some smokers don’t even need to smoke the vape e cig at last.
 
Recently, London University college did a large study on 6000 smokers  to prove it, “steam” smokers quit rate was 60% higher than those smoker who rely on nicotine patches or rely on the willpower of the participants. But how about the people who have never smoked? Will vape/steam Xnot full of fragrance make their addiction? There are some people often call weed vaporizer pen as a “gateway drug”. For this, the cologne electronic smoke clique claimed that: “Non-smokers will not be interested in electronic smoke.”Lux o said, he often give it to acquaintances for smoking.” They try to breathe,” he said, “then give my liquid vape back, just like this.”After all, a man without addiction why try smoke candy scent vape pen? The research also proved this conclusion.
 
Previously, Greece heart disease specialist Constance Cupertino Sally, made a world wide investigation, the object is more than 19000 electronic vape smokers. Only 0.5% of those surveyed become smokers by electronic cigarette smoking , more than 80% of the respondents have completely get rid of the bondage of tobacco. Only the minors may need legal protection. In adolescents, the Arab hookah is getting popular.This is a kind of color smoke tube system, smoke fluid is from fruit, the official said it does not contain nicotine. But who wants to allow young people smoking on the school playground? In the discussion, most people agree: smoke tube toys should not appear in the hands of minors, the liquid allowed is only to be sold in the bottle that small children can’t open, and must be made clear. A new policy is from European Union regulation, nicotine containing liquid will be traded like tobacco products  in the future, such as banning advertising and provisions contained, gooding’s peak. As to Pearl Crown from German cancer research center,  it is not strict enough. She want to make these liquid among the ranks of the medical products.“So that they can only be sold in drugstores. She believes that only in this way can prevent minors get the access to them.

But if so, those minor punks will give up electronic cigarettes, like before, to find a way to get more direct to the cigarettes? So their body will be subject to greater damage. And once they are adult, only they need to enter the nearest supermarket or a 350000 vending machines then buy cigarettes. Queen Mary, university of London institute of addiction research expert Peter Jack thinks. However, the thought that electronic cigarettes liquid should be bound in the regulation of drugstore shelves is very absurd, “this will lay the monopoly of cigarettes, and the harm of them are at least one hundred times larger than the electronic vape pens.”

Jack thought, to protect the body from the influence of the harmful substances in the unclear steam, only need to use “consumer rights and interests protect law” regulation, and too strict rules will lead to electronic cigarettes die out. Cardboard is once infamous, because they can release dangerous formaldehyde, however, now people don’t buy cardboard in pharmacy.“Medical product is difficult to own the permission to sell , the process is expensive, and it may take years,”  Jack said, “and after getting the permission after several twists and turns, people will still wish to maintain its original appearance and try hard. Because of this, the regulation that nicotine replacement can only be sold in pharmacies is still a bubble can not be blow up over the past 40 years.”

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thanks for the link.
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mike

What an awesome speech in favor of eCigs by Lord Viscount Ridley!





And here is the Transcript for those with bad audio
http://saveecigs.wordpress.com/2013/12/18/transcript-of-viscount-ridleys-debate-on-e-cigs-in-the-house-of-lords-how-it-should-be-done/