Char

great idea...I wasn't sure about mixing them...are you buying a vg flavored liquid and pg flavored liquid, and then mixing them together...or making your own with vg, pg, flavoring and the pure nicotine? I have the ingredients to make my own, but didn't ever know what ratio to mix pg & vg....and I've never quite figured out if I'm supposed to 'thin down' the vg...like with vodka or something? I'm going to mix up a batch of a mix tomorrow using your 70/30 ratio, and see how that goes for a few days...hopefully this will solve the muscle aches since so many people here seem to think they are somehow related to pg and lactic acid...

I have been vaping for about 8 months. I also have been to the dr. and had a complete check-up...the only question the dr. asked me about e-cigs was that she 'heard' that the liquid has formaldehyde in it...but didn't say that that would cause the muscle/body pain. It's not 'cramping' like a muscle cramp...it's just widespread body pain.... I've just tried a whole day on vg liquid...and the pain seems a bit better....but I'm not totally sure; and also have been drinking more H2o... I have to say tho..that vg is not near as flavorful tasting as pg...phoo.

I sure hope there is a solution...I'm pretty sick of it and, just today, finally figured out that all this pain started around the time I started vaping....I've been to doctors and more doctors trying to figure out why I'm having so much body pain...pretty much everywhere....sick of it. If you come across anything helpful; please, please let me know Have you heard of this before from others? and if so, did switching to vg help? I'd sure like to know if others have gone thru this...

so if you find out anything, anything at all!! will you pls. let me know...it's a painful mystery that's for sure

thanks everyone for your input...I'm going to try the all vg liquid; any good brands that anyone knows of, please let me know ok!! also going to try the more water/liquids too..altho, I do drink a lot of liquids anyway.... could it be that the pg turns to lactic acid in my body and I'm more sensitive to it...I dunno. ...I sure wish there were some kind of a simple 'test' to know for sure...maybe just getting off the pg for a few days will tell me. are there any problems that you know of related to the vg e-liquids?? what a pain...literally !!!

I've 'heard' or 'read' somewhere around here about muscle pain and pg. Now that I want to read about it; I can't find anything. I have constant muscle pain...and it 'seems' to coincide with vaping...phoo. Should I switch to something else? and what would that be exactly? I can't stop vaping...I love it and haven't had an analog since I rec'd my e-cig in the mail that very day I quit smoking and haven't had one since...so, have to get to the bottom of this muscle pain. Any help would be appreciated.

ohhhh, I hardly think so. I have to ask you about your avatar tho....is that a picture of you? If it isn't, then I think you own my brother some money for using his photo without his permission!!! The first time I saw that picture, I actually had to check it out to see if is WAS my brother on this site. So, who is that?

thanks...I'll do that sometime....who knew...I'd be on an e-cig site and talking abou art vaping and art YEA! and I don't even have to leave my studio anymore to go have a smoke...who knew!!!

Hey SmokinHammer...I will go to the lounge and post something for you I do architectural rendering for a living; and when I'm not doing that...I paint mostly in oils. And yes I do have a website..I'll post that in the lounge too....I don't think I'm supposed to do that here right? I LOVE abstract and minimalist! And I do enjoy doing something "really simple" there just isn't a big market here for that kind of art and a girl has got to make a living somehow!!!

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! Seriously, thanks Chris for the call, and for standing behind your product I sure do appreciate how you have taken care of this. Char

only the two that came with the Spade...and one is was d.o.a. (it happens) I'm going to try the battery the "wrong way" go look at the last post re:Mark!

ok..thanks....gonna try the battery the other "way" maybe it's labeled backwards or something?? gggeeeezzzz...I'm an artist, not an engineer!!!! (maybe that's the problem here lol!!) I'll try this one more thing but I have to tell ya, Chris just called me and he's shipping me a new one YEA... he said it's the seal on the battery where the atty attaches; and that it needs to be repaired. What a great guy with a great company

that's a little scary for me to do! I think I'll wait till I hear from Chris...I've tried everything everyone has suggested..pretty sure I just got a "bad one" arrgghh! For sure it has power; the lights sure do light up, but not when I attach the atty...then it's just plain dead; no lights, nothing, ZIP. boo hiss. thanks tho for trying to help. I appreciate it

oh thanks! I'll try that and see....

oops, sorry, posted same thing twice