Tonikallinn
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Just bit the bullet. 30ml of 50mg salt nic Alchemist should arrive in a few days
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Well. Tried something. I stopped vaping at around 24:00 last night. Now it is 10. It took me around 10 hits at 75w to get a buzz.....
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21 minutes ago, kylefonger said:1 hour ago, Tonikallinn said:So basically it's either a throat hit or a buzz? ****tt i miss the times i could just take a few hits off the Crown in the morning and get buzzed as ****. Maybe i should look into getting both the Nic salts and the normal 18mg, ig. Even though the whole point of getting the Suorin was to save juice.... i mean, i will be in the long run. Im just worried with the 50mg nic salts that i vape too much of it and wont feel anything with the 18mg. I hate going to lesser nic levels and try to get used to it after using higher nic levels, i usually just end up vaping more, then
So a basic run down of the problems. I want a throat hit and a buzz, can only get either at a time.
I enjoy vaping and im not one of those people who can just use it to get satisfied and just stop (meaning with 50mg my nic intake would probably get ridiculous, unless i would get overwhelmed. Hard time going to lower nic juices again). I honestly believe im more addicted to the action of vaping and the throat hit and buzz is just a bonus....You probably won't affect your nicotine addiction, in that you'll still feel just as buzzed if u use ur sub ohm, lower nic, device again. Your just getting a LOT more vapor-containing-nicotine when u use the subohm. These ultra portable devices don't produce the same level of vapor so u get a higher nic. The advantage to the "salts" is the smoothness on your throat. Sooo, maybe u should try regular freebased nicotine (old style juice) that has a 80/20 (PG/VG) ratio. A 24mg or 36mg in that case would give u the buzz and throat hit your looking for.
Its max 70/30 ratio for these pods. So i feel like the max i should go for is 25mg?
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19 minutes ago, Squid said:
Why not just go with a subtank mini, a1.5 ohm coil and a 70pg/30vg liquid at 18mg? I have been vaping 7 years, and that would give me a harsh throat hit and a nic buzz.
I already ordered the Suorin Air, and i'd be using a 70/30 18 mg in that
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Oh myyy apparently a 30ml bottle of salt nic Prophet line her is 50 USD!
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49 minutes ago, kylefonger said:4 hours ago, Tonikallinn said:two problems there. Not sure about the throat hit and i enjoy vaping. I dont want to go TOO over the top with how much nicotine i take it... And forgot to mention that the Suorin Air is 16w, if that makes any difference?
The point of nic salts is to have no throat hit. Most throat hit comes from PG. A 36mg nic salt is just as "harsh" as a 48mg. And, depending on the brand, neither should really be harsh at all.
So basically it's either a throat hit or a buzz? ****tt i miss the times i could just take a few hits off the Crown in the morning and get buzzed as ****. Maybe i should look into getting both the Nic salts and the normal 18mg, ig. Even though the whole point of getting the Suorin was to save juice.... i mean, i will be in the long run. Im just worried with the 50mg nic salts that i vape too much of it and wont feel anything with the 18mg. I hate going to lesser nic levels and try to get used to it after using higher nic levels, i usually just end up vaping more, then
So a basic run down of the problems. I want a throat hit and a buzz, can only get either at a time.
I enjoy vaping and im not one of those people who can just use it to get satisfied and just stop (meaning with 50mg my nic intake would probably get ridiculous, unless i would get overwhelmed. Hard time going to lower nic juices again). I honestly believe im more addicted to the action of vaping and the throat hit and buzz is just a bonus....
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1 minute ago, kylefonger said:3 hours ago, Tonikallinn said:I use the .25 Ohm coils. Im not really worried about taking in too much nicotine, that's why i asked also about Nic salts. The Suorin Air has 1.2 ohm coils. I want a good throat hit and a buzz. So i was just thinking about going with normal 18mg? The only Nic Salts i know about here in Iceland are the Prophet line, 25mg and 50mg. Havent tried any of their juices tho....
9mg at .25ohms would be akin to 36+mg at 1+ohms. I'd go with the 50, especially if your looking for a nice buzz. I've been vaping for quite a few years and hadn't remembered what a "quick" nic buzz felt like lol. You'll love it but definitely take it easy. I ended up dripping down to the 36mg (from 48mg) so I could vape a touch more. It's all about how much you want to vape to some degree. Get both and try em out but I'm guessing 50 will work great!
two problems there. Not sure about the throat hit and i enjoy vaping. I dont want to go TOO over the top with how much nicotine i take it... And forgot to mention that the Suorin Air is 16w, if that makes any difference?
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Or is 15 maybe better? The whole reason im going to a pod system is i use wayyyy too much juice. So i dont want to go for 15mg if that turns out too be unsatisfying :/
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1 hour ago, kylefonger said:
What's the ohms of your crown 3's coils? Before nice salts I played around with ohms and nic levels and found that they were user dependent... What I mean is this:
0.5 ohms = 6mg
1.0 ohms = 12mg
2.0 ohms = 24mg
I usually Vaped 3mg back on subohm coils. I now use multiple ultra portable vapes (breeze, campak, iShare, Mi-Pod) and I've found that the 36mg is about perfect.
You don't want to be taking long or repetitive pulls off these little guys since ur likely to burn the coil out faster so I suggest going hogher than you'd expect and vaping less.
Also, throat hit is not going to come from nic salts. They are extremely smooth. I've noticed certain brands are more or less harsh, however, such as Mr. Salt-E and Naked 100. I only buy from Vape Joose now as they transitioned to only nic salts and their flavors are damn smooth.
Hope this helps a bit. I've been out of the game for some time
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I use the .25 Ohm coils. Im not really worried about taking in too much nicotine, that's why i asked also about Nic salts. The Suorin Air has 1.2 ohm coils. I want a good throat hit and a buzz. So i was just thinking about going with normal 18mg? The only Nic Salts i know about here in Iceland are the Prophet line, 25mg and 50mg. Havent tried any of their juices tho....
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I was also wondering about Salt nic juice but i feel like 25mg salt nic wouldn't really give me a throat hit
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i use 9mg on my Crown 3 at 70w. I ordered the Suorin Air and was wondering how much nic i should use on it. 20mg? Im looking for a throat hit and a buzz
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And btw. Id be throwing a 5 wrap, 30g x 3, 38g outer. On the Bonza RDA. Ohming at .225. is that prettty legit, or?
Yeah it is. My bad. Still arcs up a lot quicker than ss and Kanthal -
Yeah, I'll see how it turns out. Quick question though. Isn't it Nichrome? Isn't nickel used for temperature mode?Sorry bit late to reply on this thread but I’m all for fused claptons over single cores. Ni80 has very little ramp up time and I throw these on my mechs happily (just check resistances first as nickel ohms out pretty low). I don’t really bother with SS or Kanthal claptons on single battery mechs as I’m not huge on the ramp up time but will happily throw the SS in a VW mod as I can add preheat to get them up to temp quicker.
As Walt says it’s all personal preference. Play and see what your happy with but just check resistance if your using mechs. -
Just now, Walt said:
Get a few in short lengths and try them. They are all good usable constructions. You'll use them up in time. By the time you add in shipping the cost difference won't be that great.
Thing is none of these are available here in Iceland. And its estimated to ship 12 days from Fasttech. Im thinking about just buying one of the tri 30g core and one dual 26g core. The 30g ohms a lot higher and would work for dual coil setup on a mech. Thank you very much for taking your time to respond
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Wouldn't this be about in between the two? : https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10040550/9625980-authentic-vapor-storm-ni80-high-density-fused
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2 minutes ago, Walt said:
30x3+38 would ramp quick. Give it a shot. Just don't buy 1000 Ft the first time around. See if you like it first.
I found a dual core n80 26g with 40g outer.... it would Ohm a lot lower...i don't think ill be using a mech? Sorry to have you explain this but uh.... about .15 ohm with the dual core and .22 with the tri core. What are the benefits of each wire?
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45 minutes ago, Walt said:
It's not really that simple. The inner cores handle the bulk of the current and for the most part heat the outer wrap wire. As you increase the number of cores, you increase the surface area of the coil but require more power to bring those cores up to a vaping temperature. Larger diameter wrap wires have more mass and require more heat from the core wires to achieve vaping temperature. As far as how much power a coil will handle, that is mostly a function of the wicking material used. Simple low mass coils will heat faster and hotter and burn the cotton before larger high mass coils at the same power settings. Most folks will find a "favorite" coil construction. What constitutes "favorite" is purely subjective. Most folks just experiment. Myself, I have found that simple wire up to simple two core claptons cover every atty I use nicely. Every atty will respond "best" to a specific build. Some like simple wire, some Claptons.
I have my Bonza RDA on the way which as a LOT of airflow. I kinda want to go with that tri core 30g n80 with 38g n80 outer wire. That would ramp up pretty quickly, right? Im just using a simple 22g 8 wrap Kanthal a1 build and it takes like 2 or 3 seconds to ramp up if they're cold.... I could as well of course just go with higher wattage and shorter hits... would basically be the same thing, i guess. Im just wondering if i should rather find another brand with dual core and with thinner outer wire?
Edit: Found this wire here..... https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10040550/9625982-authentic-vapor-storm-ni80-high-density-fused
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I was taking a look at Fasttech for prebuild wire spools. I was going for dual core but the ones i found had 30-32g outer wire, which apparently makes the ramp up time really slow. The only ones with 36-38g outer wire are triple core claptons. I don't know too much about his and would be glad to receive a few tips...
There's the link for one of the triple core ones. You can click ''Model'' and see the other two. Im not specifically looking for a certain Ohmage, ill be using it on a regulated device. And i want kind of an in between of the ramp up time and how much wattage the wire can actually handle. When im at home i can't be blowing huge clouds because my mother can't handle the smell of e-liquids and very well. And lower wattages really slow up the ramp times, it seems
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I was wondering if it would be safe to drip an RDA with the squonk pin isntalled?
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Just got the Coilart Mage mech kit. Jesus christ the flavor that comes off RDA's is amazing... i just have a basic 24 kanthal 8 wrap that came out at .39
Was going to go lower but 5 wrap 24g kanthal has way too little surface area.... im very happy with the purchase. This is a great mech kit for starters
I was going to put a picture in but the lowest i got was 1.7MB in file size....so..
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2 minutes ago, krix66 said:
The box(or a website you can order it from) generally have an ohm limit rating. If you can find it on directvapor.com and read the description it will tell you your ohm limits
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Mine goes to .05 and i don't think i will ever be going that far down....my batteries don't allow it anyways and i can't find batteries here that go above 20-23A
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6 minutes ago, Walt said:
Pretty much anything you like with that mod and those batteries. If the build is to low in resistance the mod will tell you so.
A regulated mod uses a DC to DC converter which to a great degree isolates the batteries from the resistance of the coil. I think it's easiest to think of with the converter in the middle of the supply side with the batteries and the demand side with the coil. On the demand side the mod will adjust the voltage to whatever is necessary to achieve the power setting you have chosen. On the supply side the voltage is whatever the two batteries are putting out in series. The amperage demanded on the supply side is simply the chosen power setting in watts divided by the voltage the batteries are achieving with a bit of loss due to the converter.
Here is an example:
You are using a 0.15Ω coil and you have the mod set to 150 Watts. For this example I'm going to be generous and say that the converter is 95% efficient. You are now asking the supply or battery side to provide 157 Watts. You have been vaping for a bit and your batteries are not achieving 3.5V each. In series they are providing 7V. 157Watts/7V = 22.4A that the batteries must provide. That 22.4 amps must run through both batteries as they are in series so each battery should have a CDR or continuous discharge rate of at least 22.4A. What will your mod do if you are only using batteries that provide 18A? Depends on the mod. Some will throttle down the voltage on the demand side and provide less power than what you are asking for. Some mods will tell you that you have insufficient power available for the setting. Some mods will ignore the condition as the manufacturer has specified the use of 35A batteries which btw we all know do not exist. So what happens if the condition is ignored? If you are vaping every 30 seconds on new batteries you will probably not notice a difference. If you are chain vaping like crazy on an older set of batteries, well, I don't know. The potential for a problem exists.
From everything I have read and heard, the VooPoo has a decent chipset. It should provide adequate protection. It is however always good to understand what is going on in a mod and not just use any old battery expecting the mod to compensate.
So let's say i have a build that's .186. The recommended wattage seems to be about 50-100w (100w probably being too hot to vape). I do 109.5/7.2 as the nominal voltage is 3.6. Which equals 15.2Amps. Im good to go? Does that mean that at max each battery is providing 15.2Amps? On the samsung 30Qs which are 20Amp continous? And the converted is actually EXACTLY 95 percent
And do you not really need headroom for a regulated device because of their safety features?
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I have a Drag 157w box mod, which is a dual 18650 box mod. I want to start building but i am not sure what Ohms are safe for my batteries. I have both 2 VTC4s (2100 Mah 23Amp rated by mooch) and Samsung 30Qs (3000Mah 20Amp rated by mooch) and was wondering what minimum ohms are safe for each. I would really prefer to use the 30Qs as they're higher Mah, and then use the VTC4s on my mech with a resistance that i know is safe for a battery in a mech . How do Ohms work on a regulated dual battery mod???
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Just got the Alchemist Nic salt juice, 50MG. Now is to wait for the Suorin air :D