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I second the "mastering the art of the draw" comment. When I started I woudl take a hard drag, inhale, take another, inhale, and another, inhale and hold it like i was smoking "something else". Then I found a longer solid slow draw held in my mouth for a bit then inhaled produced the throat hit I was looking for. I also agree the Nic % is something to nail down. I use 24mg right now, and do not see backing that down any time soon. I also prefer more PG than VG because I like a god throat hit.

Another piece of advise is to not get too married to one flavor because you will stop tasting it after a while and when we quit smoking our tastes change. Flavors I loved at first are now just "ok" and flavors I wasn't crazy about are now my favorites.

Its an evolution type thing for me, I am thoroughly enjoying vaping now more than ever, because the guesswork is over. I know what set up I like, and have found 4-5 liquids I can vape all day. I do not see myself ever progressing to a "Mod" or anything like that as long as my batteries are replaceable once they wear out in a year or so. Ego style batteries should last around 300 charges, and I get around 24-36 hours between charges and rotate batteries. By my math my batteries should all last between 1.5 and 2 years.

The cartomizers on the stick batteries always leaked on me when I first started before finding better options. That was what led me to this forum in the first place. I have never gotten liquid in my mouth with my Kanger T2 Ego CC longwick Clearomizers from The Veteran Vaper.

The keys are

Battery (I prefer Ego Style over everything else, get at least 1000mah or Spinner 1300mah)
Delivery System (I prefer Kanger T2 for ease and cost of replacement heads)
Liquid (VapeDudes is my #1, Sweet-Vapes #2, no #3 as of yet)
Charger (Kits come with one but you can buy separate for about $10)

Its that simple. It is easy to make it complicated and tough but once you break it down to the basics it is not that complicated at all.

Welcome! I think you will find vaping exponentially cheaper than smoking cigs, at least I have. My weekly expense has gone from $150 a week to around $30 for the wife and I. Once you buy your starter kit, a couple extra batteries, and find the delivery device (clearomizer, atomizer, tank, etc...) all that is left are replacement coils and liquids.

Just take the time and spend the money to get decent equipment, thats the biggest mistake I see people make; myself included at first.

My start up kit was from VapeDudes.com and was their eGoT starter kit with 2 1000mah batteries each fitted with a CE4 clearomizer, charger with wall adapter, and 3 bottles of liquid for $38.95. Then I bought 2 Vision Spinner 1300mah from Sweet-Vapes.com for $24.95 each and added an extra wall charger for $10 with wall adapter. I have found I like the Kanger T2 (Ego CC long wick clearomizer) the best and have found veteranvaper.com to be my top source for these. They are around $5 each and replacement heads are $2 each when you order 10 or more. VapeDudes is my go to liquid supplier however Sweet-Vapes also has some good flavors including the best tobacco out there imo, in their "Traditional Tobacco".

So basically I got 4 batteries, 2 chargers, 10 clearomizers and 10 replacement heads for around the same cost as a week of smoking, and these will last me probably a year or more. All I buy now is liquid.

There are a lot of ways to justify smoking over vaping, but cost is not one of them in my opinion.

I second the "mastering the art of the draw" comment. When I started I woudl take a hard drag, inhale, take another, inhale, and another, inhale and hold it like i was smoking "something else". Then I found a longer solid slow draw held in my mouth for a bit then inhaled produced the throat hit I was looking for. I also agree the Nic % is something to nail down. I use 24mg right now, and do not see backing that down any time soon. I also prefer more PG than VG because I like a god throat hit.

Another piece of advise is to not get too married to one flavor because you will stop tasting it after a while and when we quit smoking our tastes change. Flavors I loved at first are now just "ok" and flavors I wasn't crazy about are now my favorites.

Its an evolution type thing for me, I am thoroughly enjoying vaping now more than ever, because the guesswork is over. I know what set up I like, and have found 4-5 liquids I can vape all day. I do not see myself ever progressing to a "Mod" or anything like that as long as my batteries are replaceable once they wear out in a year or so. Ego style batteries should last around 300 charges, and I get around 24-36 hours between charges and rotate batteries. By my math my batteries should all last between 1.5 and 2 years.

Maybe its just me, but assuming since you ordered online you used a credit card, I would probably at this point initiate a "charge back" through my credit card company. If after three weeks you have not received an email response AND there is no number to call I would assume the worst and protect my wallet.

The "Throat Hit" that mimics smoking to a certain degree, as well as the flavor, comes from the PG(Propylene Glycol) and the vapor production comes from the VG (Vegetable Glycerine) in the liquid. I prefer 70 or 80% PG and 30 or 20% VG depending on what the vendor offers. I find I get plenty of vapor from those mixes as well as a nice throat hit even at the lower voltage I like for most flavors. With that said, all flavors are different. Some 80-20 produces more vapor than other 80-20 mixtures. Its all about finding what works for you. I like a good throat hit and strong flavor, so I go with a higher PG mixture. Also PG is thinner and more easily absorbed by wick type delivery systems like the Kanger T2 I use. Pure VG is difficult to use in a lot of clearomizers using the wick system because of how thick it is.

I second the "mastering the art of the draw" comment. When I started I woudl take a hard drag, inhale, take another, inhale, and another, inhale and hold it like i was smoking "something else". Then I found a longer solid slow draw held in my mouth for a bit then inhaled produced the throat hit I was looking for. I also agree the Nic % is something to nail down. I use 24mg right now, and do not see backing that down any time soon. I also prefer more PG than VG because I like a god throat hit.

Another piece of advise is to not get too married to one flavor because you will stop tasting it after a while and when we quit smoking our tastes change. Flavors I loved at first are now just "ok" and flavors I wasn't crazy about are now my favorites.

Its an evolution type thing for me, I am thoroughly enjoying vaping now more than ever, because the guesswork is over. I know what set up I like, and have found 4-5 liquids I can vape all day. I do not see myself ever progressing to a "Mod" or anything like that as long as my batteries are replaceable once they wear out in a year or so. Ego style batteries should last around 300 charges, and I get around 24-36 hours between charges and rotate batteries. By my math my batteries should all last between 1.5 and 2 years.

The cartomizers on the stick batteries always leaked on me when I first started before finding better options. That was what led me to this forum in the first place. I have never gotten liquid in my mouth with my Kanger T2 Ego CC longwick Clearomizers from The Veteran Vaper.

The keys are

Battery (I prefer Ego Style over everything else, get at least 1000mah or Spinner 1300mah)
Delivery System (I prefer Kanger T2 for ease and cost of replacement heads)
Liquid (VapeDudes is my #1, Sweet-Vapes #2, no #3 as of yet)
Charger (Kits come with one but you can buy separate for about $10)

Its that simple. It is easy to make it complicated and tough but once you break it down to the basics it is not that complicated at all.

There is not enough difference in Blu,V2,NJoy Pro, or any other "stick" rechargables to tell in my opinion. The first thing I and especially my wife had to get over is the quality stuff doesnt look or feel anything like a real cig. I bought a "Topaz" kit before finding this forum and got help with real e-cig type products.

I never thought you were using expense as an excuse, I didnt mean to come off that way. I just pointed out that you said it was expensive so I knew you had to be using Blu or some other "Mall-Pharmacy" kit that are overpriced and borderline garbage.

I have also found I prefer my smaller eGoT 1000mah batteries for certain flavors over the Spinner. Regular batteries without the variable voltage settings usually run about 3.5-3.7v and for my fruit flavors and spearmint I prefer about that range of voltage. WIth tobacco and coffee flavors I prefer it to be at 4.0v or just above and thats where the spinners come in handy. One thing to understand is resistance and voltage, there is a great chart on here somewhere that shows this. My T2s come standard with 1.8ohm resistance and to me, anything above 3.8v tastes burned so I keep a few 2.2 -2.4ohm resistance on hand for those few flavors I like the higher voltage with. Right now I am in my office, at my desk, vaping VapeDudes Spearmint in 24mg 70%pg 30%vg at 3.5v and loving life!

Ask anything, there are no stupid questions. I love helping people avoid the same mistakes I made at first. So many start with Blu, V2, or others without realizing you can get quality products a lot cheaper that work a lot better. The batteries I have last me 24-36 hours. I have yet to have two dead batteries at the same time, I could get by just fine with the starter kit but I like the Spinners higher voltage setting for my tobacco flavor.

Welcome! I think you will find vaping exponentially cheaper than smoking cigs, at least I have. My weekly expense has gone from $150 a week to around $30 for the wife and I. Once you buy your starter kit, a couple extra batteries, and find the delivery device (clearomizer, atomizer, tank, etc...) all that is left are replacement coils and liquids.

Just take the time and spend the money to get decent equipment, thats the biggest mistake I see people make; myself included at first.

My start up kit was from VapeDudes.com and was their eGoT starter kit with 2 1000mah batteries each fitted with a CE4 clearomizer, charger with wall adapter, and 3 bottles of liquid for $38.95. Then I bought 2 Vision Spinner 1300mah from Sweet-Vapes.com for $24.95 each and added an extra wall charger for $10 with wall adapter. I have found I like the Kanger T2 (Ego CC long wick clearomizer) the best and have found veteranvaper.com to be my top source for these. They are around $5 each and replacement heads are $2 each when you order 10 or more. VapeDudes is my go to liquid supplier however Sweet-Vapes also has some good flavors including the best tobacco out there imo, in their "Traditional Tobacco".

So basically I got 4 batteries, 2 chargers, 10 clearomizers and 10 replacement heads for around the same cost as a week of smoking, and these will last me probably a year or more. All I buy now is liquid.

There are a lot of ways to justify smoking over vaping, but cost is not one of them in my opinion.

Sometimes if a deal sounds too good to be true.....

VapeDudes is my go to place for liquid except Tobacco and could care less about whose flavors they are similar to. Most Ice Cream places carry the same flavors. I find this discussion and especially the correspondence a little unsettling. I have spoken with Jennifer several times and have the utmost confidence in them and their product.

VapeDudes is my go to place for liquid except Tobacco and could care less about whose flavors they are similar to. Most Ice Cream places carry the same flavors. I find this discussion and especially the correspondence a little unsettling. I have spoken with Jennifer several times and have the utmost confidence in them and their product.

I will be vacationing in Cherry Grove SC in the upcoming weeks and have never been to a real vape store. Is anyone here from that area and know of one there? It is in the Myrtle Beach area. I would like to see what a "Mod" does and looks like in person. Everything I have gotten so far I ordered online without trying first, would be cool to actually see how some of this stuff works before taking another step toward a Tesla-Provari etc....

With my Spinner 1300mah I cannot even turn it all the way up using 1.8 and 2.2 ohm resistance without getting a severe burned taste. I get all mine at Sweet-Vapes.com for $24.95. They had all colors in stock the last time I checked. Brian at the Veteran Vaper told me he is trying to get them and when he does I will order from him even if he is a couple dollars more. He said since Chinese New Year things got a little scarce but is normalizing now. I vape my fruit flavors at 3.8v with 1.8-2.0ohm and my tobacco flavor at 4.0v and 2.2ohm. Just the sweet spot that works for me. I have two EGO 1000mah as backup that always run at 3.7v so having 4 batteries is not a bad idea BUT I have not even turned on one of the 1000mah since my Spinners in.

I mean to me traditional tobacco from my supplier is exactly like an analog or very close at least to me. On another forum there is a 6 page thread bashing it as nothing like tobacco. And I mean forum reviews not the reviews on the supplier sites as they are vetted before posting and can be manipulated.

Hey I didnt know this thread existed! I am a huge herp enthusiast! I was a partner in a wholesale herp supply company in my younger days called Mid South Herpetological Supply and have had about every non venomous and many venomous species available in the pet trade. Currently I am out of the trade but everyone in town knows me and my son has the bug too. He is 8 years old. He currently has an Amelanistic Corn Snake, a Piebald Ball Python, an albino tangerine Honduran Milk, and an ornate Box Turtle. All were the result of rescue. Animal Control knows me and has me on speed dial when an exotic is abandoned in apartments, dorms, and rental houses-foreclosures and I take them, ensure they are healthy and eating, and re-home them. In the last year we have relocated over 50 specimens of variousherps. A lot of bearded dragons, Ball and Burmese pythons, and corn snakes (kinda boring standard stuff) but included was also a 4' albino eastern diamondback, a 5' albino monacled cobra, and a gaboon viper all illegally owned. I let my venomous certification expire at the end of last year just because I do not want to take those risks any more but I know the people at a somewhat local herp zoo-venom extraction facility and I utilize them now when there is a venomous species involved. All venomous species are now housed at Kentucky Reptile Zoo and are part of the venom extraction program. You might follow them on Facebook, very good people.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kentucky-Reptile-Zoo/282054578695?fref=ts


Just thought I would share. The ones we kept are those my son absolutely fell in love with, especially his Piebald Ball Python named Burt, except the HUGE 5.5' Amelanistic Corn Snake that has the nastiest attitude of any Colubrid I have ever had. I figured it best he stay with me, plus he is fun and puts on quite the show for friends and guests lol.

I have never owned a Mod, not sure I ever will. I am only chiming in to second the Vision Spinner recommendation. I love my spinners. My eGoT 1000mah instantly became backups. Charging time is about 4.5hours for me pretty consistently and I vape all day and night but find 2 is plenty for me. Having access to a charging area at work helps since no matter if I am home or at work I can charge one as soon as it dies and switch to the other. The battery life for me is around 28-36hours depending on what I am vaping and the settings I use. I prefer 3.5-3.8v for fruit flavors and around 4.2-4.4 for my Tobacco flavor and Spearmint all with 1.8-2.2ohm Kanger T2s.

As to further hijack the thread, I am also a herp enthusiast and my son genetically got the bug. He has an albino tangerine Honduran, a piebald ball python, an amelanistic corn, and an ornate box turtle. All were rescued from being abandoned in apartments in my area and dorms at the local college. Animal control has be on speed dial, I have rescued and relocated over 50 herps in the last year. I used to be a partner in Mid South Herpetological Supply back in the 90s when Crutchfield and others were just starting to get into the specialty Boas and Pythons and I had the pleasure of holding the first Leucistic Burmese Python documented way back in the day.

I personally was so ready to give up analogs that I have not had any issue whatsoever. I am at the point where I prefer my e-cig to analogs, but what it took for me was finding the right liquid and set up. I tried all the fruit flavors and some other sweet flavors and none were satisfying to me at all. Once I got my first order of Traditional Tobacco from Sweet-Vapes in 80/20 24mg nicotine I never looked back, the urge went away. I am fond of the taste of tobacco. I see so many on here that say they try and stay away from it, but for me it was imperative to have something similar and for me, this is it. As a disclaimer there are plenty that do not like this flavor, and in no way am I trying to get you to order from them, just sharing what worked for me. I never had any irritability or anxiety, in fact I have all but quit taking the anxiety meds I was on while smoking analogs.

My wife also has quit, but it was not as easy for her. She kept a pack in her purse and smoked it over the course of a week when she first started vaping but then found her "satisfy me" flavor in VapeDudes Spearmint and Strawberry Fields.

Personally I think it is mental, not physiological, since you are still getting the nicotine (probably more than from analogs) and any withdrawal is from habit.

What type of equipment are you using? One of the things I hated at first was constantly having to worry about having batteries charged starting with 808 stick type from the mall. Then I got a eGoT 1000mah starter kit with 2 batteries which shortly led to two Vision Spinner 1300mah so now I never have to worry about one dying and being without one.

You will get there, its a mindset. Its not easy, and each person is different.

I have never owned a Mod, not sure I ever will. I am only chiming in to second the Vision Spinner recommendation. I love my spinners. My eGoT 1000mah instantly became backups. Charging time is about 4.5hours for me pretty consistently and I vape all day and night but find 2 is plenty for me. Having access to a charging area at work helps since no matter if I am home or at work I can charge one as soon as it dies and switch to the other. The battery life for me is around 28-36hours depending on what I am vaping and the settings I use. I prefer 3.5-3.8v for fruit flavors and around 4.2-4.4 for my Tobacco flavor and Spearmint all with 1.8-2.2ohm Kanger T2s.

Good deal right there.Of course someones children won't get a meal here in the states.I don't begrudge suppliers a fair markup as they provide a valuable service to us.

It is amazing to me how subjective taste is when it comes to liquids and makes me wonder if reviews are even something to pay attention to lol. Some of the flavors I like the most are those others detest, and flavors I detest are those some seem to like the most. Just a thought after stumbling across a thread on another forum about how disgusting a certain flavor is and that flavor is my all day vape and the best overall I have found after trying at least 50 flavors from 5 different suppliers.

Some people love Dekang, I find it unvapable like many of the flavors I have purchased. I am giving away probably 300ml of assorted liquids to another forum member (if they ever send the flat rate box hmmhmm) and almost all of those got great reviews.

So basically what I am saying is if I like a liquid there is no guarantee anyone else will like it and obviously vice versa. Its just funny how two people can taste exactly opposite things from the same product.

Never used that one but for $24 more you can get a starter kit with two 1000mah EgoT Batteries with CE4 clearomizers and 3 10ml bottles of liquid for $38.95 from VapeDudes.com. For an economy setup I havent seen a better deal anywhere. The liquid alone is almost $18 alone. These batteries last me over 24 hours on a charge even vaping a lot. Just a tip, you can spend just a little to get a LOT more.