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Just for kicks, let's compare apples to bazookas:

Vision eGo Spinner 1300mAh Variable Voltage (3.3-4.8v) battery - $21.00 (No need for two batteries totaling 560mAh when you have well over twice that much battery life with one Spinner)
510 USB Battery Charger - $2.99
USB Wall Charger - $2.50
Boge 510 Stainless Steel Cartomizers 2Ω or 3Ω (five pack) - $5.50
Drip Tip - $1.99
Shipping - $3.00

Total: $36.98

E-liquid from $2.00 to $2.95 per 10 ml., depending on brand and quantity ordered. Dekang five-packs are usually $10.00.

ahhh but like I said all KR808D-1's are the same. V2 is expensive. You can get a starter kit at litecigusa for about $30 cheaper and they have great customer service.
I have a problem with affiliate site owners who only hype suppliers because they make a profit off of them.

Living in the State of Colorado, everyone thinks I'm vaping something else, and that's not legal here, only in your home. Just waiting for the man to pull me over.....

GMC = Garbage Minus Class....

Sounds like a stuck automatic, if your unit starts when you inhale (without pressing a button) its a auto unit, and they can go bad. A buddy of mine has one and will start up if you turn the stereo up!!

Most here use manuals, press a button and inhale.....

Start with a quality unit, bounce around the forum and you will find many choices, and lots of advice!

Better buy two, so you can get thru a half a day...

I would bet your body would absorb the coloring ok. You might have "purple lung" for a while. Remember eating those blue popsicles and how your tongue would be blue for a while? I wouldn't get a chest x-ray after vaping grape. Might freak the doctor out

Heck I will have a sandwich in one hand and be baiting a hook with a minnow on the other one. Enough Makers Mark is bound to kill any bacteria haha.

Just arrived last night, and haven't set it up yet (hopefully will tonight), my new Nahual RBA and my new Stiff's Pipe Stem Drip Tip. For now it is on my Roller, but as soon as my Stiff Nutz Groove Pipe is here, it will go on it. Can't wait!!

My magic wand.




and here's the Stiff Nutz Groove Pipe, to give you an idea of the overall method to my madness.

Welcome, it's a great place.....

Kanger batts are under recalls, take them back and demand full refund....chomp...

Happens to all of us....Had a pear/peach that was fantastic....for about a week. Mtn Dew tasted great for a month... Then went yucky...month later, tasted fine....

Mint seems to help some flavors, caramel helps others..just keep playing....

Saw this yesterday, I'd a thrown that thrash out way early...

I rest my case. Actually some of it is pretty good and some not so good. A person just needs to try them all and decide what floats your boat. I would just not put all my eggs in one basket and run the risk of having nothing to vape until the mailperson delivers the next shipment.

Hard for a juicemaker to make a profit if he has to make large batches just to steep ahead, but only sells half...it's kinda like a great wine that needs an hour to breathe, only juice takes time. Frustrating yes, but would rather steep than use months old juice, because the guy does large batches, and appreciate when I'm warned that steeping is required

Mods feel free to move this to the review section if needed, but I thought I would post it here since its really not an e-cig review or a liquid review as much as a comparison, but if you think it belongs there please move it.

First off I am a huge fan of Kanger products, and I like both of these a lot. As with anything in life, there are pros and cons of each. I am going to compare these on the basis of the following criteria:

1. Looks
2. Taste-Vapor production
3. Ease of use
4. Maintenance
5. Cost of ownership


1. Looks: I like the way both of these clearomizers look but easily prefer the look of the T3S over the T2. I give the advantage here to the T3S. It is clearly marked a KangerTech product with the logo and name on the unit where the T2s do not have this. I also like that it has a gauge for liquid level both upside down and right side up since you fill from the bottom on these. They both come in color, but I find the looks of the T3S more appealing. Advantage T3S. It has a very clean uniform fit and finish. The ONLY complaint I have about the looks is the mouthpiece is clear which looks cool when unused but after a few draws you can see the condensation in it. Its there in the T2 as well, but with a black mouthpiece you cannot see it. I have had to get used to this.

2. Taste and Vapor production: Here is another area I am conflicted. With the T3S the flavors taste the same from top to bottom for me so far after vaping at least a tank of my go-to flavors with them. I might have to give the T2 a slight taste advantage for the first 1/4 of the tank, but after that it drops off for me unless I swirl the wicks which I hate to do. I do not notice a huge difference in vapor production but it seems the T3S produces slightly more. As my wife pointed out, there is definitely more of a "throat hit" from the T2 but at this point I am happy to tame that down just a bit. There is not a huge difference in this category either, but would give a slight advantage to the T3S since I think it produces slightly more vapor and the fact that my flavors taste the same from full to empty with all my flavors.

3. Ease of use: The T2 wins this one hands down. It is virtually impossible to get liquid in the air holes and-or flood a T2 from my experience. They fill from the top, very easy to do with little mess.You can fill while still attached to the battery. With the T3S you have to turn it upside down, unscrew the bottom, either be very very careful or plug the hole with a Q-Tip, put the bottom back on, and then re-attach it to the battery. Both are very easy to change the coils, although the T3S has an advantage here as you can easily change coils with a full tank as I have already done a few times (I will get to this later). One thing to mention here is due to the design of the T3S it doesn't work well for me with a lanyard on stock Ego batteries. It is fine on my Spinners, they have plenty of space and threads, but on the smaller batteries it screws down too far and places the lanyard ring in a bind and sometimes creates a distance that it doesn't make contact and you have to mess with it to get it to fire. I have gone back to using my Spinners anytime I plan to use a lanyard when using my T3S. I cannot efficiently use my lanyard and my EgoT 1000mah or my Ego Mini 400mah because the ring blocks the coil from making contact with the battery.

4.Maintenance: This is also a category where I am torn. It may be too early in my use of the T3S to accurately talk about this, but of the 10 I ordered with 1.8ohm coils standard I have replaced all 10 with 2.2 ohm coils that I ordered. The coils that came standard started flooding one by one but after exchanging them the leaking is minimal, but still there. I never had anything like this happen with the T2s. So far, there is definitely more maintenance with the T3S than the T2 for me anyway. Every coil I have used leaks at least a little and when refilling there is a procedure of blowing out, swabbing down the air hole and mouthpiece. It reminds me of the Ce4s in this regard. Let me say this, its not terrible. There is not liquid running out the bottom of these, but to say they don't leak a little would be being dishonest in my reviews. The second part is how easy it is to change the coils. With the T2 I always took out the coil, soaked the tank and cap in alcohol for a day or two, then let it air dry and go back into the rotation. With the T3S you just turn it upside down and unscrew the bottom, unscrew the old coil, screw in a new one, swab out the air hole, and screw it back on. I think it is more efficient as long as the coils last similar time-frames.

5. Cost of use: This is where there is not a lot of difference on the surface but as time goes on I can see either one having the advantage here. Up front costs are similar, in the neighborhood of $5 with one coil. The coils for the T2 are $2 and for the T3S are $1.39 so there is a difference there but not huge given how long they should last. I believe the T3S in the long run will be more efficient. I cannot count how many half tanks of liquid I have poured out of my T2s when a coil blows. It seems to ruin the whole tank and even if not, most comes out when you try to pull soaked wicks out and replace with new ones. That's why I gave up on even trying this with the T2s. With the T3S if I blow a coil I can replace it and continue to use the liquid in the tank. You can also buy replacement bases with the T3S ($2.50) but cannot buy replacement lids for the T2 (That I am aware of) and I have had a couple of them get the threads messed up and this renders them "spare parts".


Bottom line is I like both these units for different reasons. I am planning to continue using the T3S as my daily driver for now but will not ever be bummed out at all I have with me is a T2. They both are great delivery devices. I just love finally being able to vape a whole tank of liquid with no drop-off in flavor or taste without having to top them off all the time. For a total noob, I would probably recommend the T2 over the T3S due to the ease of filling and lack of maintenance. I would give a slight advantage overall to the T3S head to head with the T2 as long as you dont mind a little maintenance and an occasional leak. I know there are ways to fix them, add wicks, rebuild, etc... but that's not me. I want to buy something and it work and for me it does, but there are definitely minor leaking issues similar to but not as bad as my experience with CE4s.

This is my first non-liquid review so please, be gentle lol.

Hey everyone!

Picked up smoking (after 10 years off) in September '11. Tried e-cigs as a last ditch effort in March of this year, and seriously haven't even thought of an analog since (I even gave away the half pack I had left)!

Needless to say, I'm in love with this technology and honestly enjoy vaping more than I ever enjoyed smoking.

Looking forward to learning more about the ins-and-outs here...

cheers!

K

"taste still on the battery " ? Is that possible? Alcohol and a qtip?

Thats what I did and the qtip was black. I am used to cleaning them every time I charge them as a habit, but I must have missed this one too. As I continue to vape this I am increasingly convinced that I just so happened to blow a coil when I first fired up the freshly charged battery and thought there was something wrong. The residual taste was still on the battery when I put on the fresh tank. All is well now!

LOL You mean my Jedi Knight Cpl Daisy Woojie? The Wooj is a fearsome weiner dog mix. Chiweenie she is known as!

Loving, fearless, squirrel and all beasties of the world hunter! FEAR THE WOOJ!

Too funny!

All my wieners are mini lol

Yahoo!

Mine has rolled off the table onto carpet a few times, a couple of times onto harder surfaces but never on concrete. It's survived it all. When my V1 control head started to come loose it was while I was changing tanks.

I've run into "that device is no good because it might break if you drop it' threads ad nauseum. Try dropping your smartphone, tablet, or other electronic device and see how long it lasts. I don't understand the mentality that expects ecig devices to be indestructible.

All these sound-alike brands/styles, numbers and abbreviations give me such a headache. I'm so glad I discovered the RBA's a few years ago. lol.

Just when I've gathered enough info on a product that's great for taking to the bar, or for getting newbies started up nicely, I run across threads and videos full of gripes and fixes. Then I have to go back to all the newbies who trusted what I had set them up with, and explain how to fix them. I hate hype. Man oh man, Why can't life be simpler?
Now the eVod coils that vapers like to put on their protanks to stop the gurgling, are changing. They aren't making those same eVod coils anymore. Does this mean the fix for the protank will also be changing again?
oops, I'm ranting. lol. But, seriously, when does this ever stop? I feel so sorry for the vendors too, who were stuck purchasing the promised land, only to see V45 come out within a week.

Is the T2 the same thing as the T2S? Does the T2S leak like the T2? Or do I have that backwards? Is there a one that doesn't need a fix? What should I set the noobie up with? I can't go telling a newbie to take it apart and fix it with an extra silica they don't happen to have on hand... I mean, really. I''d really like some honest to goodness honest products to recommend and honestly, I don't know what they are.

I didn't mean to rant in this thread, but seeing as how the FIX is a topic, ...