ddavelarsen

Consider this,
If you want to try to quit smoking and don't think you'll be vaping long, I recommend a regular 510 kit and pcc with gradually lowering your nic levels however if you're planning to switch from smoking to vaping (with or without hopes of someday quitting altogether) I recommend an eGo/ Tornado as it has much better batt life and much better performance. There are plenty of other great kits out there but from my experience this was the way to go for me. I just noticed that a lot of people recommend the regular 510 kit, when you can get the eGo for about $30 more.... Just thought I'd throw that out there as I see a lot of people making the switch from smoking to a 510, then almost immediately looking for something that'll last longer. So again, if you're not so sure about vaping, 510. If you really want to try to make it work do yourself a favor and order the eGo. That's my advice, take it for what it's worth.



All hail the eGo. It saved my life, and probably many more.

Very good point on drops--work very well for small amounts and testing flavors.

When looking at supplies the syringe I use the most is 1cc for accurate drop/ml.
using a 1ml syringe--remove the plunger, place cap or finger over other end of syringe. add 1 drop at a time until you reach the .1 ml mark. # drops x10= drops/ml. it really not too hard, I promise.

When I first started I only mixed in small amount and as my confidence grew, I began mixing in larger quantities.
I think mixing is easy to make too complicated (in the beginning).
Honestly, when I first started mixing I tried to keep things as simple as possible. I would put 1ml of PG (easiest to mix with in the beginning due to consitency)-- and add just a couple drops of flavoring at a time until the right flavor.
I started with the premixed flavors--fruit flavors or coffee flavors and would use flavoring to enhance the premixed and then moved to making my own creations.

now that we have scared you away from mixing......
It really isn't too hard, alot of trial and error.

if I can do it, anybody can !!!!

Excellent Kitsune! Another big +1 for you. I love this forum. Hedge, I partially answered this question a while back too, check post number 4 on Sensay's thread too if you're interested.

DIY is a wonderful, and addictive!, pastime and addition to your vaping repertoire. After the initial expense getting set up, you'll be able to mix liquids for as little as 25 cents per ml. No kidding. Well, that assumes buying large quantities of the more common cooking flavorings, but even so, it's far less expensive than buying commercial liquid. To me though the best part is being able to tweak your mixes to work best with your voltage and atty, and your personal tastes. I have a pretty unusual approach to liquid mixing because I vape high voltage, but it works for me and might for you if you're at 6V or more. (If not, if you're vaping 3.7V, then stick with the more traditional levels of up to 20% flavoring and mostly PG.)

For high voltage liquid, I use 100% VG base nic and as much as 48% flavoring, which can get very pricey (but still less than the cost of commercial liquid, assuming you've purchased large enough quantities of the basics kitsune mentioned). This should make more sense as you get into it more.

The only thing I would caution is using drops to measure. I say this because there are too many variables using drops. Different liquids with different viscosities have way different drop sizes, so you can't rely on the 30/ml rule of thumb very well. That's how I started too, and while it does kind of work for small batches (and that's how you'll want to test your mixes!), drops do not scale up accurately. If you're going to use drops for your testing, you have to measure how many drops in 1 ml for each of your inputs. For example, using a common disposable pipette, here are the number of drops per ml for each of my basic inputs:

100MG nic Base, 100% VG -- 16
100MG nic Base, 50% VG, 50% PG -- 26
100MG nic Base, 100% PG -- 31
VG, cut with 20% distilled water -- 15
PG -- 20
Average Flavoring -- 20

So you can see that there's a lot of variance depending on viscosity of the liquid you're inputing and each dropper is different. The 30 drops/ml assumption could get you weird results if you wanted to scale up, and you'll want to measure with each dropper you use.

Determining how many drops per input using your dropper is simple. Get an inexpensive graduated cylinder (the smaller the better for accuracy; mine is 10 ml and it's a bit too large for this purpose). Using your dropper, drip into the cylinder being very careful not to let any drops hit the side of the cylinder going down (if they do, they won't count properly), and count each drop until you get to the 1 ml line. You want to measure where the low part of the fluid comes right to the 1 ml line in the cylinder. Because of surface tension, the liquid will rise along the edge of the wall of the cylinder; don't measure the top of the edge, but the lower, flatter part of the surface. Hope that makes sense.

Rinse and dry your cylinder and dropper between each input you're testing, and try to do this at the common temperature that you'll be working with your materials. Temp can also affect viscosity of the liquids, and even 20 degrees difference could change your measurements. You can dry the inside of your cylinder with canned air -- or a paper towel and a coat hanger. Whatever works, but dry it out so drops of water remaining won't affect your count.

Don't forget to write down your count after each input! No need, probably, to ask why I mention this. You'll be able to pour most of the liquid you measured back into its container, so there isn't much waste doing this. It's really necessary for accurate record keeping.

I tried to upload my calculator but for whatever reason the uploads are failing this morning. If you'd like to see it I will be happy to email the file to anyone with basic instructions how to use it. It's very simple and direct, and lets you measure your inputs in both drops and milliliters.

That's all I have for now, hope it helps a little. Sorry to go off on the drops rant, but I've gotten in so much trouble with drops assumptions I wanted to get it off my chest. Have fun and as kitusne would say, Merry Mixing!

Excellent Kitsune! Another big +1 for you. I love this forum. Hedge, I partially answered this question a while back too, check post number 4 on Sensay's thread too if you're interested.

DIY is a wonderful, and addictive!, pastime and addition to your vaping repertoire. After the initial expense getting set up, you'll be able to mix liquids for as little as 25 cents per ml. No kidding. Well, that assumes buying large quantities of the more common cooking flavorings, but even so, it's far less expensive than buying commercial liquid. To me though the best part is being able to tweak your mixes to work best with your voltage and atty, and your personal tastes. I have a pretty unusual approach to liquid mixing because I vape high voltage, but it works for me and might for you if you're at 6V or more. (If not, if you're vaping 3.7V, then stick with the more traditional levels of up to 20% flavoring and mostly PG.)

For high voltage liquid, I use 100% VG base nic and as much as 48% flavoring, which can get very pricey (but still less than the cost of commercial liquid, assuming you've purchased large enough quantities of the basics kitsune mentioned). This should make more sense as you get into it more.

The only thing I would caution is using drops to measure. I say this because there are too many variables using drops. Different liquids with different viscosities have way different drop sizes, so you can't rely on the 30/ml rule of thumb very well. That's how I started too, and while it does kind of work for small batches (and that's how you'll want to test your mixes!), drops do not scale up accurately. If you're going to use drops for your testing, you have to measure how many drops in 1 ml for each of your inputs. For example, using a common disposable pipette, here are the number of drops per ml for each of my basic inputs:

100MG nic Base, 100% VG -- 16
100MG nic Base, 50% VG, 50% PG -- 26
100MG nic Base, 100% PG -- 31
VG, cut with 20% distilled water -- 15
PG -- 20
Average Flavoring -- 20

So you can see that there's a lot of variance depending on viscosity of the liquid you're inputing and each dropper is different. The 30 drops/ml assumption could get you weird results if you wanted to scale up, and you'll want to measure with each dropper you use.

Determining how many drops per input using your dropper is simple. Get an inexpensive graduated cylinder (the smaller the better for accuracy; mine is 10 ml and it's a bit too large for this purpose). Using your dropper, drip into the cylinder being very careful not to let any drops hit the side of the cylinder going down (if they do, they won't count properly), and count each drop until you get to the 1 ml line. You want to measure where the low part of the fluid comes right to the 1 ml line in the cylinder. Because of surface tension, the liquid will rise along the edge of the wall of the cylinder; don't measure the top of the edge, but the lower, flatter part of the surface. Hope that makes sense.

Rinse and dry your cylinder and dropper between each input you're testing, and try to do this at the common temperature that you'll be working with your materials. Temp can also affect viscosity of the liquids, and even 20 degrees difference could change your measurements. You can dry the inside of your cylinder with canned air -- or a paper towel and a coat hanger. Whatever works, but dry it out so drops of water remaining won't affect your count.

Don't forget to write down your count after each input! No need, probably, to ask why I mention this. You'll be able to pour most of the liquid you measured back into its container, so there isn't much waste doing this. It's really necessary for accurate record keeping.

I tried to upload my calculator but for whatever reason the uploads are failing this morning. If you'd like to see it I will be happy to email the file to anyone with basic instructions how to use it. It's very simple and direct, and lets you measure your inputs in both drops and milliliters.

That's all I have for now, hope it helps a little. Sorry to go off on the drops rant, but I've gotten in so much trouble with drops assumptions I wanted to get it off my chest. Have fun and as kitusne would say, Merry Mixing!

Hey Burn-- I love that. I live to torment my kids and now can be around to torment them longer !!!

Hodge--We don't have and exact how to--something I would love to do (but haven't)
However there is a great resource put together on the liberty flights forum, The creator of the thread has put much research into it:
http://www.liberty-flights.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1208.30

here's a quick summary:
supplies:
3ml or 5ml empty dropper bottle
1 or 3 ml syringe (if you have-can live without)
premixed liquid and/or unflavored liquid
flavoring of choice

1. Initially I start with 1-2 mls of base liquid (premixed or unflavored)--put into 3ml or 5ml bottle
2. add flavoring a couple drops at a time, shake, test. I test by direct dripping a couple drops. I use a paper towel-twist-and push into open end of atty to absorb excess between test vapes.
3. perfectly good to add more than one flavor.
4. be very careful with tobacco flavors--very strong
5. I always add a drop of menthol to my flavors to add a bit of cool throat hit.
6. keep track of what and how much you add (so when you want to make a larger amount you can calculate)

Roughly 3 drops = .1 ml, 30 drops = 1ml
the syringes are handy for handling larger volumes ( but can count drops)

I have used the todd mueller calculator: http://www.todmuller.com/ejuice/ejuice.php
This calculator bases the drops on 20 drops/ml and I have found that when measuring juice it's closer to 30 drops/ml. The calculator is accurate when looking at the mls to use......

Unfortunately I have to go get ready for work, but will be around a bit later. and see what else I can add or questions....
You can do this !!!!

Hi sensay, welcome to the light side! To get set up for mixing you'll want a few basic things. Unfortunately you can't get them all in one place. What a raw deal but that's just the deal. Actually, you probably can get most everything you need from one or two places, but there's going to be specific flavors you want that you'll have to go looking for. Here's a list of what I consider the basics:


PG and/or VG nic base, with a high enough nic level that you can cut it at least by half and still get your desired end nic strength. For example if you vape 24mg you could probably get away with 48mg base. 0 nic PG and VG. These are cheap, though PG is a bear to find except by mailorder. Flavorings. Common brands are Lorann's, Fairy's Finest, Capella, Perfumer's Apprentice, Flavour Art. I'm beginning to lean back toward Lorran's because they seem to be the most concentrated to me, which can be important if you like a Lot of flavor. Storage and carry bottles. I like to store larger quantities of everything in glass dropper bottles easy to find on eBay. 30 ml bottles would be a decent size to be handy to use but I have some 60 ml bottles for storing mixed liquid. Also 3 ml and 6 ml plastic drip bottles. Pipettes for dripping. One thing that can throw you is that different drippers have different drop sizes. You'll have to adjust your calculator for the number of drops you get per milliliter; that really varies! So using the same kind of disposable pipette can help to standardize mixing. (Disposable pipettes can be rinsed out and used many times.) Latex gloves. Mixing is messy and you don't want to get high-nic base on your skin; it can make you quite sick. A calculator for determining the volume of each component for your mix. Don't use mine, I found a math error that I haven't fixed yet. There's a thread here with a great calculator that also includes a ton of nice recipes and some 'how to' type information.
I think that covers the basics at a high level. Look through other threads here to find suppliers and many good ideas. You may hear some conflicting advice but you'll soon determine what you'll want to try first.

One thing that I'm figuring out that works well for me is to mix your flavoring together in a discrete bottle. Then you can experiment with PG/VG proportions, how much flavoring to add, etc without messing up a whole mix when you get it not-quite-perfect the first few tries. Also, you can mix with 0 nic base to test flavor and vapor properties before you commit your measure of nic base.

Good luck, have fun, ask all your questions and vape on! You found the right place.

It's totally worthwhile in that once you're set up it's very inexpensive in cost per ml to make your own. There is significant upfront expense, similar to getting set up for vaping itself. But once you're over the hump there, maintenance is very inexpensive, on the order of 25 cents per ml. But the real value of DIY is making your own liquid to your own specs. I vape 6V and commercial liquid just did not work for me. So I've formulated my own mix and it's perfect. This is something you cannot get any other way. So in that regard if nothing else, DIY is totally worth the effort and cost. That's just my .02.

May I add one thing. When you start mixing flavors for your own recipes, there will be some waste; some things will just taste like old socks and you'll have to throw them down the drain. That's right, I've made stuff that was not salvageable in any way! So what I learned to do is to taste new recipes with 0 nic PG or VG so that I don't lose the nic base too. Just a thought. When you hit that first recipe that's everything you hoped for you'll be hooked forever!

And don't forget about this one---LOL

http://www.vaportalk.com/forum/forum/gallery/image/293-thanks-shultz-and-rickey-indianapolis-ink/

Oh wow .. I was wondering if Ouster had made this thread. I was going to pitch in. Guess now I'll sit and wait it out. I hope for the sake of human decency that this guy isn't full of ****.

My husband has been deployed twice. Both times on a base with an APO. Not exactly sure how it works, but I'm thinking if it's a base with all the necessities meaning goods coming in and out I would think there to be an APO.

Regardless of how this turns out I want you all to know that you've succeeded in showing myself and each of us how truly good natured people can be. For me, it really touches the heart and proves that we haven't all sold our souls. Thank you for reinforcing our faith in humanity. Give yourselves kudos...no more talk of feeling foolish!

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I remember this.

This is the file that brought me to Vapor Talk in the first place. Christopher and his posting rules.

I was desperate to find a juice calculator and google brought me to one of Dave's threads with this calculator.

First, I couldnt DL the thing because I didnt have an account. Don't you just hate that??? O.k. so I make an account, and then try to download. I STILL cant download a ****ty 10K file????? WTF!!!

So I start searching again through google because certainly someone must offer up the file without the lame account rules. I searched by the file name, which always works like a charm. What did Google tell me???

VAPOR TALK VAPOR TALK VAPOR TALK

**** That site!!! O.k. He is using Trajan font, which is one of my all time favorites but still, this site is pissing me off. So what do I have to do? 5 posts? Are you ******* kidding me??? WTF!!!!

O.k. so I make my 5 posts and get the file and was relieved that I didnt have to come to this ******* site ever again. I forgot to delete my account...that was over 2 months ago...(true story)


Oh yeah....thanks for the update. =)

Dave, the spending buying habits with spouse, that is probably why I would be terrified to marry again after what my X spouse put me through. LOL!



Don't feel bad, even without one, I was so broke when I started to look into this ecig device on this same forum. I had lost 2 jobs, and was on this forum trying to learn what to buy on credit while I was trying to go cold turkey. I had about a week of severe struggling, when new neighbors started blasting music 24/7 and pushed me over the edge.



I then decided I could NOT afford to go to the local store here in N.Y. anymore, not even for 1 more pack of analogs. The prices here are just too outrageous. So I went to the Indian Reservation.



On the way back, just as I said to my son, "This will probably be the last time we go to the Indian Reservation", (I really believed because of all you good people on this forum that this electronic cigarette device was going to work), I suddenly hear a siren and flashing lights. Oh, great, like things were not bad enough!



I ended up with three tickets related to my very old jalopy that I keep trying to hold together just to have some transportation and trying to keep above water. From there, I was terrified what was going to happen when I showed up in Court and did not have any money for tickets. To make matters even worse, my son who is multiply-handicapped was given a ticket. They said he did not have a seat belt on, but he did. My son cannot defend himself in a Court of Law, and not good with answering questions, especially when stressed out, and Courts are a Big One for Stress. Now I am thinking they are going to put me in jail because I cannot pay the tickets, and my poor son will not be able to care for himself. I will never forget how this journey to try to quit analogs started for me, given this story. I had ordered my Joye 510 kit, but I had not received it yet.



I knew when I got my kit and my one bottle of ejuice that I could cut the "Nic" down with VG if need be. Problem was, after I did get my ecig kit, the only place I could get VG without waiting for shipping or spending more money I did not have was to go to Wal-Mart. I could not get there, because the inspection sticker on my car was expired, thus explains one of the tickets I had received.



A really good Sumerian on this forum sent me some ejuice after I began to get ill from the high "Nic", or I may have given up at that point. I had a carton of analogs from the Reservation, and I still do. I could have easily gone back to analogs when I got ill. But instead, because of the help I received on this forum, I have not had a single analog since I got my Joye 510 kit and started without any analogs the following day.



As for what happened about the tickets and the Court, I spend much time praying. I also wrote a letter to the Judge about my son. I did not want to have to embarrass him in front of other people in Court by revealing all handicaps in public as to why he cannot answer for himself. I prayed that somehow I would only have to pay $50, and they would not stress out my son. My prayers were answered exactly as I asked. The Judge even winked at my son, and he smiled with such relief as we left.



As for the good Sumerian, who helped me from this forum, I was told to "pay it forward". I did just that finally on the 1st of this month. Besides showing this device to anyone I can, there is a girl who lives in the lower apartment from us who smokes. She finally revealed to me after I showed and let her try my ecig months ago that she too could not afford to buy one. Another single Mom struggling. I gave her everything I started with and then some once I got the VP-PT, and a few other things I long waited to get.



USBpassthroughVP, I know if I can do it with what I went through, I know you too will do really well. There really is so much to learn, and the people here are so knowledgeable and helpful. I know that you are in good hands here if you need any help or any support, don't be afraid to ask any of us. I believe this is important. And the fact you are already here asking questions shows you're already on your way to being free from analogs.



I almost forgot, you asked about where to put the drops. Dripping was already mentioned, but here is a video that shows how to top off your cart, instead of dripping. Also Dave is right, it is hard to buy every ejuice in every strength. You can always cut down the "Nic" strength with VG or PG. You can get VG at Wal-Mart. I would not recommend buying the highest "Nic" level of ejuice to start with. If you can afford it, it is also good to try some other flavors of ejuice. You can even mix a drop or two with whatever flavor you have picked to try to match whatever type of analog cigarette you have been used to in your cartridges. Sorry, I guess I am jumping the gun. You can buy pre-filled cartridges with ejuice, but I think most don't do this all the time because it is costly, so they may buy bottles of ejuice to either fill or top off their cartridges with. So make sure to buy yourself some extra cartridges, called "carts" if you go this route. There are some really excellent Videos on YouTube to show just about anything you may want to see how to do. Try this one about topping off your cartridge with a bottle of ejuice:



http://www.youtube.c...h?v=q9PVrsCC5-0



Only difference, the Joye 510 does not have an inner cart like in this Video, but that just makes it easier.



Sorry guys for the long story, Hope this will encourage others that anything is possible, and Dave brought up the buying collecting habits. I also wanted him and his spouse to know without God and this forum, I would not be here doing so well! I thank God, this forum, and also a good friend and prayer partner who prayed with me during this struggle and recently (last month) passed away very suddenly. I always saw miracles happen whenever we agreed in prayer together for all we knew and all we could of this world, my heart is so sad now to know the world lost a real angel, my friend Marlene for whom I will try to carry on her same Love, Compassion and Prayers for others as well as her Great Faith!


USBpassthroughVP, you are in good hands here on this forum. I will be praying for you also!

HAPPY MEMORIAL DAY to all our vets...both past and present.
It's what's this day is all about.

So if you see one of our men or women in uniform today be sure to thank them for all they are doing.

Have a great day all!!

Only fly in the oinment I can see is the current limiter in the protection circut board on the batteries.These limit the current to prevent an axplosion caused by rapid discharge of the cell.The only time you could really get the full current flow would be on a unprotected battery or a straight passthrough hooked to a large enough power supply.

It's time for electronics 101, and how it applies to PVs.

Current flow (measured in amps) is the movement of electrons through a conductor. These electrons are sent out by the power source (volts) to act as the workers, and resistance (measured in ohms) is in the path of current flow and will slow the electrons (workers) down. Power (measured in watts) is the measurement of work being performed in the circuit, and will always manifest itself in the form of heat (doesn't that sound like heating up an atomizer to you?). Of course too much heat (power/watts) will pop the atty.

Now for the math, and I promise it's not that complicated:

A physicist by the name of George Simon Ohm discovered that there is a tight relationship between voltage, current, and resistance. This relationship can be described and predicted by mathematics, which has become known as "Ohm's Law". The basic statement of this relationship is that voltage and current are directly proportional (when we increase voltage, current will increase as well), and that current and resistance are inversely proportional (when we increase resistance, current will decrease).
Voltage = current multiplied by resistance
Current = voltage divided by resistance
Resistance = voltage divided by current
Power = voltage multiplied by current

Now let's apply Ohm's Law to a PV:

A 3.7v device with a standard atty;
Voltage 3.7v divided by an atty that is 3ohms = 1.23amps
The heat produced by this is determined by the power in watts which is 3.7v multiplied by 1.23amps = 4.563watts
We know this works, and we can use these numbers to compare the performance of the other combinations.

A 3.7v device with a LR atty;
3.7v / 1.5ohms = 2.46amps
3.7v * 2.46amps = 9.126watts (remember, this is the heat)

A 5v device with a standard atty;
5v / 3ohms = 1.66amps
5v * 1.66amps = 8.33watts (remember, this is the heat)

A 5v device with a LR atty;
5v / 1.5ohms = 3.33amps
5v * 3.33amps = 16.66watts (remember, this is the heat.....POP)

A 6v device with a standard atty;
6v / 3ohms = 2amps
6v * 2amps = 12watts (remember, this is the heat...on the bourder of POP)

A 6v device with a HV atty;
6v / 4.3ohms = 1.395amps
6v * 1.395amps = 8.372watts (remember, this is the heat....is this really any better than a standard atty at 5v?)

My ohm values for the attys are approximate, but you get the picture. This really answers all the questions "will this work with this?", "will that work with that?". I also think that anyone dabbling in making their own mods should understand these basics when choosing components that will work well together, and avoid injury.

Very well could be that the batteries are dying--how long ago did you get them??

The best thing I invested in and learned to use a multimeter to check the battery voltage (works great for atomizers to)--I know other things can affect voltage reading--but for me it has help me determine dead, dying or some other problem.

Using multimeter for 510: here we go..first set your meter to 200 OHM the touch the red probe to the black probe and you should get a reading of 00.0 if you dont and you get something like 00.2 just subtract the # from the reading you will get from the atty. Ok put the RED probe into the small hole on the battery side and the Black probe into the small hole on the SIDE of the atty or on the thread you should get a reading of 2.2 - 2.9 thats a good strong atty if you get anything above 3.2 send it back..lol the lower the # the better

Now the battery is done the same way EXCEPT set the meter 20v in the DCV section RED to the metal (Dent) on the battery or if you have a Mega just put it on the end that connects with the atty and the Black try and put it on the little gold band You will need to have someone hold down the batt switch while testing ..A half charged battery should read 3.6 - 4.2

I got a multimeter like this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Mastech-DT830B-Palm-Size-Digital-Multimeter/dp/B00066ZZO4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1274551185&sr=8-1

sorry long response !!!

I think we need a new vaping device called the "HR1256" just for principal's sake.

I sure don't doubt it's real. Governments are just doing a shake-down. They want their cut like pharma and tobacco do. Stupid analog businesses just don't know how to take advantage of the digital world. It's true in music, it's true in publishing, it's true in movies. The establishment (oh, we used that word with disrespect in the 70s!) just does not understand how to move sideways. What happens in reality though, is it ends up a diagonal path and everyone gets satisfied. Eventually. The trip getting there though is a big fat MF. Some day we'll see the end of prohibition too, I just may not live to see it. But it's bound to happen because reality is bigger than everybody. Trying to change reality is like pushing a rope up a mountain. Businesses try that every day; it just costs them time and money. Governments try that every day; it just makes them look stupid and the smart voters eventually get their way and vote the stupidest bureaucrats out. Unfortunately there's always plenty of stupid and inertia to drag things far beyond their logical conclusion.

The sane response to this is to acquire as large an inventory of critical products as possible. I'm glad I have my nic now; attys are next, and then connectors. I'm not going to take up analogs again until they make me. You guys in denial can go ahead and get ready to smoke or quit nicotine. Your choice. Just realize that eventually vaping will see its worth, and when all the big players have figured out how to get their cut, it'll all be okay again. Trust me. It's just about money.

I have some car chargers that I'll give you if you just pay for shipping. I have a couple that I am able to just give away. Contact me VIA pm if your interested

If you go to my site and go to the bottom of the products page, its the car charger right there.

Input, DC12v-24v
Output, DC5v +/- 5%
Max, 1000 mA

I have to say I agree with you on the Vapor Kings 555.
I have tried Stricklyejuice and vapornine and my first of course was Vapor Kings and is still my Favorite of all of them.
seemed to me the others were just not there. And YEAH for Me VK is like 2 hours from me and I get next day shipping ALWAYS!!!!
I have to say that is what I call PERFECT.

And have tried there regular Tobacco flavor and it is my favorite of any other I have tried as well...


Go Rob..his CS is great also..

I have to say that the Cohiba from Sticklyejuice (24 nic) is growing on me. Might want to try it and see if you need it in your mix somehow.

Cheers

I think that the wetbox idea is right on the money. The wet box uses cartos, and feeds juice from the bottom. A blind person should be able to feel for the button, and know where it is instinctively in no time. As snubber said, battery charging might be a challenge, so I would have several batteries that she can work with. I'm thinking maybe 6 batteries so she can have a storage box where she stores fully charged batteries. One battery in use, when it falls off vapor production put it on a separate box for staging "to be charged". place a battery in the charger over night and it will be charged by morning, out of the charger and into the fully charged box. Take a battery from the staging box and put it in the charger, charge all day, should be charged by night. Move charged battery to the fully charged storage box, move a drained battery from the staging box into the charger for the overnight charge. Get the picture?

With enough batteries, she should be able to handle this by feel, and the fully charged box should have more batteries in it than the staging box.

Filling juice bottles might be the next challenge, is something that she may need help with. I wouldn't want her spilling any on herself.

Blind people can learn all kinds of ways to be self sufficient, and getting to know her a little, and how she can use other senses to compensate will help fine tune the plan to her abilities. Concentrate on what she CAN do to compensate for what she can't (see).

So here is my idea for this contest. Let's "pay it forward". The way the contest will work is you are allowed 1 post per person. In your post you can name any other person on the forum who has somehow either inspired you, Made you laugh, or just in general makes well-written posts or responses. The winner will be chosen by a random number generator based on the post number in the upper right corner of your post. The winner will receive the Red Palm mod and the person they nominated will receive the Zircote and Maple mod. One entry per person please. Contest is open to ALL members of Vapor Talk (you need to have 5 posts so that I am able to PM you). The contest will end Sunday May 16, 2010 @ 8:00 pm est. Good luck and have fun!!!

Note: I may post a few times during this contest. In each post I make I will also add 2 names within the post. If my post number is chosen the mods will go to the people mentioned.

Please note: These mods take a 14500 battery and 510 atty (not supplied)

I'm also trying to do the same thing at my company. I've been sending information to our HR department, and also our health/safety/and facilities department.

Thanks Christopher, great article.

LOL - oh well. I have to say you were definitely a little too eager. But its understandable to be excited. People love Eastmall and I've sent them three notes with no response. I think we just expect too much these days with emails, we think we're being ignored when someone just decided to go out for the day (or two). On the plus side, it does not seem to be a rip-off. Payment on hold is probably just a clearing thing with the bank/CC co.

Please remember, the smaller retailers like the ones referred to on this site or it appears the one you dealt with, are a one to few person enterprise. Usually committed to the concept as opposed to the money. And welcome.

Ok here goes nothing my video

I've been reading all the posts and wondering what in the world I should do. I have no idea. I have to agree with all of you who have asked "How do I choose just one?". It's so terribly hard. I've been very tempted to not enter this contest at all because I don't want to chose just one person. Mark, you said..."In your post you can name any other person on the forum who has somehow either inspired you, Made you laugh, or just in general makes well-written posts or responses." Wow! What an awesome task you've given us.

My first response has to be to Michelle. Wow!! Thank you. I don't even know what else to say to that. You left me speechless. Thank you.

Okay, the speechless part is over. Here I go....

Who has inspired me? Chris & Sean's video's are what started it all for me as far as the forum goes. Dave and Brian and Jeff and Mark have inspired me almost from the beginning. Vacker and Brandon and FTJoe and TheSmokingMan and Keenan and so many others have all inspired me in their own ways. Some of them don't even post any more. Dave and Brian have lifted my spirits in more ways than one and have inspired me in untold ways. How can I ever thank them enough? I can't.

Made me laugh? OMG!!! Dr. J, Keenan, TheSmokingMan, Vacker, Brian, Dave, TeriJo, Mark, Jeff. I've laughed out loud more since joining this forum than I have for years and years. Thanks for the laughs everyone!!

I've read some of the most thought provoking, intelligent, well-written, witty, awe-inspiring posts ever...right here on this forum. All of those I've already mentioned have written some awesome stuff.

Brian and Brandon have done more for this forum than almost anyone else with their wisdom and answers about battery information. Dave has contributed a vast amount of info about doing the DIY juice. Dr. J keeps us informed by way of his videos and reviews. Vacker keeps us up to date on the bans, etc. Mark and Jeff are so great at jumping in and answering all of the questions and steering us all in the right direction. Not to mention keeping the laughter going along the way. I just know I'm leaving a lot of people out and I sure don't mean to, but this hard.

So, who do I pick? How do I choose? I think I'll just choose one who hasn't been chosen by someone else already and hasn't entered the contest. Yet.

I'll pick Vacker.

My deepest, heartfelt thanks to everyone who contributes to this forum and makes it the great place it is. I truly appreciate each and every one of you.

And thanks Mark. For doing this and giving me a good excuse to say a few things I needed to say.