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Even after year of trying everything that was available, I was never able to stop smoking. One day, five years ago, I saw a co-worker outside sucking on what looked like a pen (eGo T 650 mAh) and exhaling plumes of what looked like smoke but smelled so much better. I stopped and starting asking questions. That night after work I stopped by the B&M and bought myself my first vape gear: an eGo-T 650 mAh battery, two CE4 tanks with 1.5 ohm coils with a 5-pack back up, an AC adapter, a charging cable, and three bottles of juice. Back then, it cost a total of $165.00 A few days later I went back and discovered that eGo had a new battery out -- a 650 passthrough! And Kanger put out a new tank -- a T2 with top coils/short wick. I started vaping and collecting more back ups, more juices, never really looking back. The six packs of smokes I had in the fridge remained there for another two years until I finally threw them away. The first six months or so, I'd tempt fate and would light up just to see if I still liked it or not. The answer would be... not. Haven't looked back since. Around the first six month mark, I was playing on the internet and discovered a different vape forum. It was too big, the people weren't very patient with "noobs", nor were they very kind or friendly so I continued looking around. Hey! Check out this new place I found! It's called Vapor Talk. The people were very friendly, very knowledgeable, and I felt welcomed here. It's where I call 'home' now. The people are wonderful, they are all about helping new vapers with their questions no matter how many times they answer the same thing. They enjoy derailing threads, but that only makes the conversation more interesting and the subject comes back around... eventually. Yes, we do periodically get some bad apples here, but it's rare and they usually get tired of our slower pace and go away. The good ones stay. Eventually, I was asked to become an admin here, and it was a scary thing, and I'm still learning. This long-winded thing is my way of saying a BIG THANK YOU! to @Christopher for starting this forum, to my fellow admins and mods, and to all the wonderful members here (both old and new), who make the forum a place to hang my hat. These days, after all this time, I no longer have any doubts that I'll ever go back to smoking. Vaper Talk has played a huge part in helping with this. Happy 5-year vaperversary to me!

That's a worry you simply don't need. I doubt you would flag a positive, but who needs the worry? If your friend can afford drugs, your friend can afford a vape.

I read this in a blog called Vaping Post this morning. Thought it quite interesting seeing that it was done in the good ole USA. (I wanted to copy/paste the link and my computer wouldn't cooperate.) Air Sampling confirms secondhand vapor is harmless Results obtained from an air sample of a small non-ventilated vape shop, clearly indicate that the amount of toxic substances present in the air where a lot of vaping is taking place, are of insignificant levels. The California Department of Public Health has been carrying out air sampling in vape shops throughout the state, as part of its initiative to determine the health effects of second-hand vapor exposure. Earlier today in his blog, Public Health Expert Dr. Michael Siegel pointed out that the results for this report were obtained from a relatively small and non-ventilated vape shop, where many of the employees and 13 customers were actively vaping while the sampling was taking place, hence what would be considered a situation presenting a high level of exposure to second-hand vapor. However, given all these unfavourable conditions, the results still reported no dangerous levels of exposure to any hazardous chemicals. The main results of the air sampling go as follows : Nicotine: Not detected Glycidol: Not detected Formaldehyde: 7.2 ppb Diacetyl: Not detected using standard method 2,3-Pentanedione: Not detected using standard method Acetyl butyryl: Not detected using standard method Acetoin: Not detected using standard method Acetone: Not detected Ethyl benzene: Not detected m,p-Xylene: Not detected o-Xylene: Not detected Toluene: Not detected Acetaldehyde: Not detected Acetonitrile: Not detected alpha-pinene: Not detected Benzene: Not detected Chloroform: Not detected d-Limonene: Not detected Methylene chloride: Not detected Methyl methacrylate: Not detected n-Hexane: Not detected Styrene: Not detected Finally putting fears about formaldehyde to rest? Dr. Siegel pointed out that the level of formaldehyde detected, is consistent with the levels normally found in indoor and outdoor air levels under baseline conditions, adding that the only other chemicals detected were ethanol (alcohol) and isopropyl alcohol. “This study, although conducted under very high exposure conditions in a small, non-ventilated vape shop with many employees and customers vaping and clouds of vapor visible, did not document any dangerous levels of exposure to any hazardous chemical. Nicotine exposure was essentially non-existent. Formaldehyde exposure was no different than in many indoor and outdoor environments at baseline. Acetone, acetoin, other aldehydes, toluene, benzene, and xylene were not detected. Chemicals that have been associated with “popcorn lung” were also not detected by the standard method.” stated Siegel. No justification for governments to ban vaping “This study adds to the evidence that under real-life conditions, ‘secondhand vaping’ does not appear to pose any significant health risks.” concluded the public health expert. He added that whilst he himself has been behind many of the smoking bans that took place, based on this current evidence he fails to see a reason as to why governments should ban vaping in public spaces. “With regards to vaping, I just don’t see any reasonable evidence at this time that it poses any significant health hazard to bystanders.”

ok so, something more like this?

I love my yappy little dog... except, thankfully, he's not so yappy.

A truly "must have" for the aspiring mad scientist. From my friends at www.webstaurantstore.com Did have to hack off seven inches of the legs to make it sitting height but now I can stop mixing on the dining room table!

Thanks guys. I told her all of you guys advice and she is finding vaping much easier. She has now gone just over 1 month without smoking, so we are both really happy with her progress

Starting a new mod company. Calling it Last Vape.

Stripped, sanded, and polished.

Hell I'm only 42 and forgot about it until someone told me it was happening. I went outside and said "Yup looks darker than it should be." Went in and went back to work. My wife says i need to be more personable to others.....

This is a mock-up I done in Photoshop but it would make a cool shirt.

Regulated mods (ones where you set voltage/wattage/temperature) have a really good track record, but there's also that rare one that has a fault, or one that someone has modified or done something stupid with... Mechanical mods (where you press a button that makes the battery contact and complete a circuit) have a good track record too... IF THEY ARE USED CORRECTLY, and people aren't being stupid... like trying to fire a 0.05 Ohm coil, or using batteries that cannot handle the Amp demands their coil is pulling. Explosions were still uncommon even years ago, before battery technology became better! Like @Tam said, most problems are with cheap Chinese batteries, knock-off batteries, damaged batteries, or where someone pops a battery into their pocket or purse (unprotected) and loose metal manages to make contact between the positive and negative posts, creating a run-away discharge/venting. There's no reason to panic... your mod is 99.9999% safe if used correctly AND you are using a good, reputable battery of the correct Amperage specification for your coil needs. Stick with Samsung, LG, Sony, etc. batteries, and make sure they are at least 20A... and you should be fine for all your vaping needs.

This is a great live session between the Vaping Biker and Mouch. Fabulous information!!!!!

I received this Mod set up from Health cabin and Id like too give you all my review/thoughts on it Right off the batt when I took it out of the shipping envelope I was impressed at how good it was wrapped up It could of fallen out of the truck and bounced around on the highway and still been untouched.. This setup comes in a few different cool color combos I wanted the Blue one and Im glad I got it it looks awesome (got a lot of compliments on it) In the box pretty much the standard contents manuals,usb cable,spare glass/orings etc the tank comes with a Proc1 coil 0.4ohm pre installed and 40-80W and a second ProC4 50-110 W coil. This is a 228W mod that runs on 2 18650 batts and it has all the Temp control options SS NI etc and has the option for an analog or digital clock display It also has a puff counter and option for preheat settings and probably a few more other things Im still trying too figure out Th display screen is huge and very easy too see and you have the option of what you want too set as your screen Ok Ive been vaping it on and off for a week now I started with my batts at 3/4 charged after 250 puffs I had too charge them not too bad. Im using the ProC1 col at 56w and the flavor/cloud is awesome. I havent tried any of the TC settings as Im not that tech savy and Im still trying to learn but in straight up Watt mode Im diggin it . The procore tank is new too me its a MTL tank for sure and uses the same coils as the baby beast which is a plus for me I like tanks that can use other coils. It doesent use a standard 510 drip tip that pushes in this one actually pushes over (see pic) The mod feels great in the hand and has the option of two fire buttons one is on the side the other is the tap pad located at the top of the mod on the screen side. Whats different about this mod is there no protruding buttons the fire button on the side sits flush with the mod. Ive seen a few reviews where others do not like the fire button n the touch pad as it is very sensitive and can fire if put in a pocket/bag etc (you have the option too lock this fire button as well as the up and down adjustments also touch pad) I happen to like using the touch pad to fire it just feels right too me as I hold it. Another thing this Mod has is pressure sensors located on either side of the Mod you basically tap/squeeze the mod in your hand to bring up certain menus with in the Mod Pretty cool feature takes a bit of getting used too to get the hang of it All in all this is a pretty cool mod setup with lots of cool features. I would highly recommend it especially for those of you that like cool tecky features and like I said its great used in regular Watt mode.. this is my review for you guys I hope it makes sense If I figure out more things it does I will update it here Heres a few pics the touch screen for the fire button is the space above the display and the adjustment pad is just under the screen the main fire button is up top too the left

Weeded the front flower garden to include digging out a small tree. No debilitating fits of coughing and gagging! This old fart got tired and had to sit down after the tree. But this old fart could breath!!!! First time since I can remember.

This is unfortunate but it seems to be typical. From Facebook:

"Smoke" can be colored because it is created by the act of something (a chemical additive) "burning" Vapor cannot be colored. The vapor (even if it could be colored) on the draw into your mouth/lungs would be absorbed by the body, and any coloring would likely be very bad for you to inhale. If any juice manufacturer is attempting to create juices that provide a "colorful exhale", I would NEVER attempt to try it!

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I just received a Templar AIO kit by Vapor Talk in the mail yesterday. Since setting it up I have been vaping on it exclusively. Here are my first impressions. Packaging: Very nice box art. It is definitely representative of the Vapor Talk brand. If I hadn’t already seen photos of the device I would have been tearing into the box in anticipation of checking out the contents. Instead, I tore into the box in anticipation of actually getting my hands on what was inside. The contents: It’s no frills. You get the mod, 2 coils, the standard USB charging cable and a manual that is easier to understand than most I have seen. The mod: Very simple to set up and operate. The hinged cover for the charging port (located on the bottom of the device) easily swings out of the way and has a magnet to keep it in place when the cover is in the ‘closed’ position. The top comes off easily, even with the child proof design. I had no trouble screwing a coil on and filling the reservoir/tank couldn’t have been simpler. The appearance is sleek, fits well in my hand and appears to be constructed well. There do appear to be a couple of minor differences and/or omissions between the manual and the device. The manual says the charging light will flash 4 times to indicate a successful connection. I connected the device to 6 different ports with two different charging cables and each time I got a solid red light. This was after the initial “charging” because the fact the light didn’t flash 4 times was actually brought to my attention after the fact. The device also must have been mostly charged because the charging light went from red to green in a matter of minutes. The other omission I noticed from the manual is the battery mAh rating. It isn’t listed in the manual but is listed on the VT website – 1000 mAh. Operation: Charge it, 5 clicks to turn on, press the fire button, inhale and enjoy. It doesn’t get much simpler than that. Experience: Overall it will serve as a very capable backup for me. I have been using it exclusively for close to 24 hours as of this writing and other than the fact that I might need to step up the nicotine it has served its purpose. I normally vape 3mg between .1 and .2 ohms, so going to .5 ohm just isn’t giving me the same “hit” I’m used to. I have done everything from short 1-2 second drags to longer 8-10 second drags. Casual hits every few minutes to chain vaping. The tank does get warm when chain vaping. I will admit that I was actually hoping it would serve as a nice little stealth vaping device, but with .5 ohm coils and the way I do DTL hits, that just isn’t going to happen for me. It might be a little stealthier if I up my PG, as the juice I have in it right now is a 10/90 PG/VG ratio, but even if I switch to a 50/50 or even a 60/40 I think I’m going to be producing quite a bit of vapor simply based on the way I vape. The airflow does not appear to be adjustable. That’s fine and doesn’t take away from the operation of the device; it’s just tighter than my personal preference. Appears to vaporize the liquid and utilize the battery very efficiently. I am still on the original 2ml of liquid I put in the tank, though I’m definitely getting toward the bottom end of that. By comparison, I would have easily gone through 6-9ml of liquid with one of my normal setups with the amount of vaping I have done and I would have easily drained 2 2500 mAh batteries, though I have no idea how close to drained the battery is. At 1000 mAh I would have though I'd have had to charge it a couple of times by now, but I'm still on the original charge.

It's a built in battery. After a year or more it will gradually hold less and less of a charge and fade away eventually just stopping but it won't matter because by then you'll have 5 or 6 different devices

To add to the idiocy -- let's just ignore all the years people have been vaping before this "crisis" came up and we're all healthier than we've ever been... but don't let facts get in your way. SMH

I work with a girl who's SO became deathly ill "due to vaping". (When I questioned her, she admitted that it was black market THC her SO was vaping EXCLUSIVELY for a week, when she became ill and then CONTINUED TO VAPE THE STUFF!) Some of the other employees were blasting vaping on the spot because of this person's illness. So I posed the question, "ok, if vaping as a whole is responsible, why am I not ill or dead? I've been vaping for nearly 6 years." The room got totally silent. Then I explained, that I KNOW what's in my juice, because I make my own. What they NEED to be upset about is WHAT this person vaped and WHERE they got it, NOT with vaping as a whole. A few of the employees actually apologized, stating, if they had known that there was black market/tainted juice out there and that could have been the cause of the illness, they would have kept their mouths shut. I just reminded them there is always more to every situation than just what you hear/see on the surface, get the facts before you blow off steam.

Check this little bugger out! It's about the size of a lipstick tube. 20700 hybrid mech pipe bomb. Great for collecting finger prints.

@Tam and @Walt are correct... Increasing the volume of creamy flavors (Vanilla, Malted Milk, Cream, Ice Cream, etc.) will reduce the "bite" of the fruit flavors. Like Walt, I've found that certain brands of fruit flavors are much harsher than others, and some of the "candy" flavors are very citrus-acidic and artificial tasting (just like Tam said). I also prefer Capella and TFA (The Flavor Apprentice) fruit flavors over others.... CAP are some of the best IMO... I would also suggest lowering the candy flavor (or eliminating it all together) and play with the ratio of Blueberry and malted-milk/ice-cream flavorings until you find the right balance. Mix in 5ml - 10ml batches until you find the ratio you like best... then you can make gallons if it if you wish

I have only been 4 days no smoking. But, you have to start somewhere. I'm 58. BUT, I have my 78 year old mom now just starting to get used to vaping on my ipic mini. She likes the juice I made, so here's hoping. Shes been smoking since she was 15!

UPDATE- GOOD TIMES!!! So I revisited the build- cut my wicks just under top of tank level- shorter length probably wick easier to coil- more cotton thru the actual coil and less in channels. Also put an extra loop on my coils as it could easy handle it space wise and changed juice. Not sure what it was- probably mixture of juice (seemed to have no flavour on the dripper too but was tasty as hell few days ago) and cotton clogging up channels but good times ahead!

Same here. Using a smok Al85 Now a 220 watt alien. maybe it's just where I live and work it's mostly the younger crowd using the mods and building coils. We have a store here and every time I'm there I'm the oldest one in the place! Sent using The Vapor Talk mobile app

All of the members on the forum could throw recommendations at you, but the only one who can tell you what you like is you. Not that I'm trying to give you a hard time or anything but flavor is so subjective. What one person thinks is perfect, it will taste like dirty socks to the next person. It will all depend on what tastes good to you. One eliquid vendor I liked a lot when I first started out is EC Blends. They have little 5 ml samples for under three dollars (usually something like $1.99 or so). You can customize the juices as much as you like. My all day vape for several years now is an almond joy flavor. I would never have guessed I'd like it this much. Ever. You might surprise yourself with what you find tasty. If you want more throat hit, you'll want a little more PG in your eliquid. This is the flavor carrier, thins the liquid and gives better throat hit. If more vapor, smoother throat hit, a little sweeter, is your thing, then go a little more on the VG. For the set up you have I would recommend going with a 50 PG/50 VG to start. You don't want to go with anything thinner with that tank. Also, at the beginning, go up a little on the nicotine. 3 mg isn't enough for someone trying to get off cigarettes. I'd go at least a 6 mg or 8 mg. If you vape too much and get too much nicotine, yes, you'll develop a headache. Just stop vaping for a little while and it should go away on its own. Make sure to drink lots of water. Vaping dehydrates you so increased water intake is a must -- not soda, not coffee or tea, or anything other than plain water. If the juice tastes a little "bad" when you increase the nicotine, then just have the vendor increase the flavor a little to mask it. Hang in there, we've all been through it. The first few weeks are especially trying because your body is detoxing from all the carcinogens that you took in with cigarettes. If you can hang in there, this will pass.

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This is actually a great question and one that I'm often asked. There is an easy way to actually visually see the difference between vaping and cigarettes. Grab a smoker and some tissue. Fold the tissue in half, then ask the smoker to blow through the tissue. Ask them to do this three more times. You'll be absolutely shocked at the yellowing left behind on the tissue paper. Now, repeat the process with your e cigarette, do it 5 or even 10 times. You should notice, no stain And if for some reason there was a stain, switch liquids because I've done this test more times than I can count for people and I've never stained tissue with an e-cigarette. On a side note, as british born guy, I'm pretty self conscious about my teeth. (Cavity free my whole life!). When I was a smoker, no matter how hard I tried, I generally suffered from yellowing. These days I'm pretty happy with how white my teeth are. It's been 8 years now and my teeth look great. (And any yellowing that I do have is likely from coffee).

If you are anything like me you will find that over time your collection of vaping stuff will seem to magically grow by leaps and bounds. Especially if you start to DIY your own juice. And your patience with sorting through jumbled mess in a shoe box will quickly wear thin. With this in mind I came up with a no frills design that anyone can make cheaply (under $10) and very quickly but will allow you to expand as needed. Here Is what we are making. One for Juice bottles and One for Atomizers. First step is deciding where you are going to place it. Whether in a cabinet, cubbie hole, a desk or table top then measure and write down height,width, and length. Now we drive to Home Depot for the 2 types of wood needed. I already had the materials at home left over from other projects so I just made both. You can do the same or just one or the other. First the juice bottle one. You need a 2"x2"x8 foot board (although they actually measure 1 1/2" wide not sure why?) Cost is around $2 Now you decide if you want Home Depot to cut your wood to size which they will they just won't guarantee precision cuts. Based off of the measurements you took before, If your shelves are going to be less than 36" long then you need 3 of each size if more than 36" then you need 4 of each 2" 4" 6" 8" If more than 4 shelves high than go up on each piece by 2" This will form your bases. Next look for this cart somewhere in the lumber section. Look at the 1 1/2" size pieces (poplar is the cheapest) and grab the amount for the number of shelves you plan to make in either the precut sizes or have them cut down to the size needed by Home Depot. For my 2 units I used (1) 2x2x8 and (4) 1/4x1 1/2x48 hobby boards. The bottle space was 34" long so I needed 3 bases up to 8" high and 4 shelf's 34" long. I used (3) of the remaining 14" hobby boards on the atomizer shelf and cut (2) 6" high bases leaving me with a 10" piece of 2x2x8. Once back home find a flat place to work and grab any type of glue and start assembling the bases. Starting with the largest 2x2 piece lay it on it's side add glue to one side of next smaller size and stack it on top like so. While glue is still wet adjust the pieces so cut edge and sides line up as even as possible. Continue on until all bases are glued. Allow glue to dry for a few minutes. Place bases with cut edge down where you planned for with 3rd one in the middle or 3rd & 4th evenly spaced for longer shelf's. Then place hobby boards on other cut edge like so For the atomizer one there is an extra step. Grab a pencil, ruler, and some atomizers. Lay them like so. This will help you get a feel for how many will fit on your shelf and what spacing is needed between them. Then make 3/4 of an inch mark on both edges of shelf and using another shelf as straight edge draw a line down the center. Now transfer your spacing marks to that line. Now grab a drill and a bit that is slightly larger than your 510 connector on the bottom of the Atomizer (I used 9/32) and drill at your marks you can either drill all the way through or stop right before test with an atomizer to make sure base lays flat against shelf. Do the same for other shelves. Once you are done with that I recommend you glue shelves to bases. And were done! As I said at first no frills but very useful. Now you get to decide what else you could use this shelf for or maybe sand and stain or paint them. After finding more attys (I swear they are reproducing by themselves) I added a couple of more shelves And here is one way that I decided to finish it. As for me after looking at the first picture I really need to get my bottle labels under control and now I know exactly where to place them on the bottle for optimum viewing. Thanks for reading. As always all comments, critiques, and or questions are much appreciated.

Welcome to vapertalk! Don't have a mage but I like 2x28+32 in my RDA's. I'm looking for flavor though. As far as tricks, I only know one. Vape three times, roll over and take a nap. Love that trick. My wife, not so much.

Thank You :D Actually we are going to start auto posting "interesting" topics to Facebook and Twitter as a way to drum up more conversation within the forum. We have a ton of followers that hang out more on social media that on the forum so this helps draw them back into the forum.

So what do you do when you get a sexy new polished SS mech mod and all of your tanks are black? You take a black tank and sand all the paint off and polish it! Sent from a galaxy far far away

I'm not holding my breath.......... http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CONGRESS_VAPING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Ask and ye shall receive! Sent from my SM-G950U using The Vapor Talk mobile app

Ok, so I've read endless chatter about these things so I tried one. I'm pretty impressed. It might mute the flavor just a sliver in comparison to say the Serpent SMM but I haven't vaped it much yet. It is quite the performer especially considering it is top airflow. Put a quick and dirty 7 wrap, SS26, 3.5mm coil set in it and vaping on TC. Good fog, good flavor, easy build. Not much to complain about. Looks perdy matchy matchy sexy on the mini to boot.

I was bored today and the paint on one of my first mech was coming off. I kept thinking about what to do with it and it came to me out of the blue! I used to be into RC car and very truck competition and I had a bunch of decals so I went digging. The decals they use are of real good quality and relatively inexpensive. Here's what I came up with. Sent from a galaxy far far away

Forgot to add the tank has a flip top that is great for easy fast filling Just slide the top section back and flip it back

Nailed it! Fount this on Pinterest and had to share

I honestly laughed out loud. The dog IS really cute. Now, I do really like Jeff Dunham's character, Walter. Since I heard him say it, I've wanted a one day job at Wallmart just to say "Welcome to Wallmart. Get your **** and get out!" That would be priceless!

Hi all I'm new to this I can't believe I'm not smoking anymore I've been smoking for 33 yrs I tried everything the gum the patches nothing helped till I started vaping man why didn't I start sooner I'm 15 days cigarette free with this vaping thingy I don't even crave a cigarette I can't believe I'm doing this I'm not coughing as much anymore I was smoking 2 packs a day now nothing when I started vaping I'd smoke a cig when I had to charge it now I bought another vapor so now I haven't smoked in 2 weeks I'm so happy I need to read more about this vaping thingy so that's why I'm here have a great day night evening where ever you all are Sent from my iPhone using The Vapor Talk mobile app

iJoy Tornado Nano RTA - close out sale 7.95 This came with a clear glass installed and a black tinted glass in the box. I put the black one on, started vaping and got a surprise! [emoji41] When it gets warm or hot it turns semi-transparent white. The darker portion on the bottom is the juice. Sent from a galaxy far far away

Can't go wrong with Tri tip and chicken in the smoker....

Sorry, I couldn't resist [emoji41] Sent from a galaxy far far away

Finally snagged me a noisy cricket v2 and i am already in love with this mod! It is soooooo versitile, currently running a 0.44 in reg. series and its killer. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk

Got these in a few days ago but I've not been feeling well and forgot to post here. All from the VT store: 1 - Kanger Aerotank 2 2 - 5-packs of coils for the above 1 - Aspire Nautilus X (@Christopher's recommendation and I'm really liking it so far!) 1 - 5-pack 1.8 ohm coils for the above Then, @Christopher added Ace of Spades pack, extra cartridges, juice, eGo battery holder... and his generosity knows no bounds! I'm trying the Ace of Spades cig-alike, and so far I'm liking it a lot more than I would've thought for stealth vaping. Still in the testing phase right now but so far I'm pretty impressed at its performance.

Aha. Thank you! My fidget toy has 6 strings and a whammy bar.

Someone on Reddit just told me that I have been using my CE4s clearos way too long and the discoloration I found is likely "burnt silica". *headdesk* I can absolutely confirm that I've been using them too long. I didn't realize. Just been putting up with the slightly off flavor until it gets so burnt tasting I can't stand it. This may stand as the dumbest thing I do in 2017. LOL