Features Include

Changeable atomizer head
Faster liquid flow
Color Changing LED when battery reaches 50%
5 click lock feature (5 clicks to lock, 5 click to unlock

Each kits includes:

x2 eGo C batteries with 5 click locking feature
x5 Atomizers heads
x5 cartridges
x1 case
x1 wall adapter
x1 USB adapter
x2 Atomizer Head Cover
x1 manual

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Embargo: November 1st, 2011, 00:01am GMT.

Electronic Cigarettes Deliver as Much Nicotine as Tobacco Cigarettes

In an article published today in the European Respiratory Journal, results from a study on electronic cigarettes show users get as much nicotine from this product as smokers usually get from tobacco cigarettes.

The study, by researchers from the Universities of Geneva and Auckland, reports levels of cotinine (a product of the degradation of nicotine by the liver) in users of electronic cigarettes.

This is the first time cotinine data among electronic cigarette users in real-life conditions are published. So far, there were only laboratory data among naïve users who used this product briefly before their blood was tested for nicotine. These previously published data showed that naïve users obtained little or no nicotine from electronic cigarettes.

The new research published today shows instead that experienced users (all of them former smokers), in real life conditions (not in a laboratory) get a dose of nicotine similar to the dose that smokers usually get from tobacco cigarettes.

These results are important because governments in many countries are developing regulations for electronic cigarettes (currently, some countries prohibit them, others allow them with nicotine and others without nicotine). In this context, it is very important to know, for health authorities, doctors and consumers, that electronic cigarettes can deliver as much nicotine as tobacco cigarettes.

Geneva, Switzerland, October 31, 2011.

Source
Etter JF, Bullen C. Saliva cotinine levels in users of electronic cigarettes. European Respiratory Journal. 2011, Nov 1, vol 38, 1219-1220.

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Buying and Using an Electronic Cigarette: A Primer

The first thing to know is that everyone is different.
Everyone has different reasons for smoking cigarettes.
Everyone gets different things from the smoking experience.
Everyone has different needs and wants.
And everyone has different tastes

The second thing to know is that there is no perfect electronic cigarette.
They all have pluses and minuses, depending on your needs and wants.
What one person considers a plus may be considered a minus by another.

The third thing you should know is that you will probably change your mind.
There is a very good chance you will stop caring how much it looks like a cigarette.
There is a very good chance you will stop caring if it tastes like your old brand of cigarette.
And of course, there is every chance that you may not change your mind as well.

The last thing you should know is that there is a learning curve.
This is not going to be as simple as picking up a cigarette and a lighter.
Parts will eventually die on you, so you’ll need backups.
There are issues to overcome, and things to learn.
But in the end, it is well worth it to make the effort.

Prefilled cartridges versus refilling your own
Cartridges are basically made up of a mouthpiece and filler material that holds the liquid.

Using cartridges prefilled with liquid can become relatively expensive.
Also, this limits the flavors and strengths of juice you can use to what they come filled with.
Almost everyone quickly switches to refilling their own cartridges for the above reasons.
This is one reason your first order should always include at least 10ml of juice.

Cartridges can be refilled a number of times, but not indefinitely.
The filler material contained within the cartridge stops working quite as well after awhile.
Many people simply clean the filler and keep using them even longer.
Regardless, you will eventually need new filler, but can continue using the same mouthpiece.

One option is to buy your own cartridge filler, which is very inexpensive.
Another option is to buy blank cartridges that have filler but no juice.

Manual versus Automatic batteries
Manual batteries require you to push a button to activate the battery.
Pushing a button will reduce the degree of duplicating the cigarette smoking experience.
However, most people say it becomes second nature in less than a day.

Automatic batteries are activated by the act of inhaling.
Some automatic batteries are activiated by the sound of inhaling, and some by the suction.
Therefore, they may also be activated by such things as loud noise, wind, or car air conditioners.

Automatic batteries allow you to use your electronic cigarette hands free.
However, electronic cigarettes are too heavy for some people to hold comfortably in their mouth.

Automatic batteries have a cutoff which causes them to stop after a certain number of seconds.
This is the source of much frustration for most users, and detracts from their enjoyment.
It can lead to various issues such as juice in the mouth or poor vapor production.
With practice, certain techniques may be employed to help overcome these issues to some extent.

Manual batteries avoid the above issues by providing complete control over the atomizer.
The vast majority prefer the manual battery, but there are some that do prefer the automatics.

NOTE: Please see the various replies below for more information on battery options.

Throat Hit and Vapor Production and Flavor
Most people want a good throat hit, however some people want less throat hit.
But everyone agrees for the most part that more vapor is a good thing.

In general, throat hit and vapor production go hand in hand.
The hotter you can get the atomizer the more vapor and throat hit you should get.
But this may also cause the juice to lose some flavor as well.
And it will definitely cause you to use more juice.

Manual batteries will allow you to get the atomizer hotter for longer.
This is another important factor in the reason most people prefer manual batteries.

Also, vapor production and throat hit can be greatly influenced by the juice you use.
And at this point, vapor production and throat hit do not always go hand in hand.
Nicotine strength is often cited as having a very big effect on throat hit.
And different flavors from the same company often produce more or less throat hit and/or vapor.

Mods
Mods generally provide much longer battery life.
They use larger batteries that are more common, easier to get, and much cheaper.
For this reason they look far less like a cigarette.

Many also allow for higher voltage which will also allow you to get the atomizer hotter.
Many users eventually move to a mod for the above reasons.

Nicotine Strength
There does not seem to be a clear pattern as to what strength nicotine you might need.
Some people find they need higher strength than they thought.
Some find that they need lower strength.

The general rule of thumb is get something maybe a bit higher if unsure.
You can always get some that is lower to cut it back with.

And you can keep some around for spiking to a higher strength if a bad craving hits you.

PG versus VG juices

As far as differences go, this is what I have gathered from reading things here and there.

1) VG is thicker (more viscous)
2) VG vaporizes at a lower temperature
3) VG produces better vapor
4) VG is somewhat sweeter

Because of the above…

1) VG does not wick quite as well
2) VG may gunk up your atomizer more quickly
3) VG produces a somewhat cooler vapor which may reduce throat hit

Dry atomizers, flooded atomizers, and wicking
Basically, you want to keep your atomizer happy with plenty of juice, but not too much as to flood it.

A good sign that it’s flooded is that it gets a little harder to draw on and you get little or no vapor.
Flooding it, however, won’t hurt it at all, and you can just blow out the extra juice.

Letting it get too dry, on the other hand, is not good for the atomizer supposedly.
But regardless of whether it is bad for the atomizer or not, you still don’t want to do it.

You can tell it is too dry when it starts to taste like crap.
A nasty sort of burnt plastic type of taste.

One reason it might get too dry is if you burn through the juice faster than it can wick up more.
That is why people experiment with different kinds of filler materials to use in their cartridges.

If you take only a drag or two every now and then, you should be fine.
But if you use these like a cigarette, the wicking process will have trouble keeping up.
There are ways to deal with this, and people have different methods that work better for them.

And of course, when the cartridge is running low on juice, it needs topping off for this reason.

Here’s what probably happened…

Most good batteries come with built in protection. When the battery is drained too low the safety circuit kicks in to protect the battery and more so you, from any damage.  Is there a way to fix the battery? Yes, sometimes. The the following trick doesn’t always work but has saved me countless headaches.

• 1. Grab another battery of equal size and voltage (if you don’t have another, grab a 9 volt battery)
• 2. Connect the  positive and negative ends of both batteries (The second battery must be fully charged in order to repair the defective battery)
• 3. Hold for about 3-4 seconds.
• NOTE: Positive to Positive, Negative to Negative!

Essentially you’re “jumping” the battery.  It should cause the protection circuit to “reset”. Place your defective battery back on the charger and wallah, red light

I hope this helps some of you save a couple bucks and drive a little extra life out of those mod batteries.

-Chris

The recent Box Elder Scandal has shown just how inconsistent DIY nicotine can be. Vapor Talk does not condone DIY e liquid creation but we’re fully aware that some users prefer mixing their own liquid for various reasons.

Nicotine poisoning describes the symptoms of the toxic effects of consuming nicotine, which can potentially be deadly. Historically, most cases of nicotine poisoning have been the result of using nicotine as an insecticide.

Sixty milligrams of nicotine (the amount in about 30-40 cigarettes), has the potential to kill an adult, who is not a smoker, if all of the nicotine were absorbed. This figure is ~120 mg in chronic cigarette smokers, smoking an average of 20 non-light cigarettes delivering ~1.7 mg of nicotine each daily. One cigarette’s-worth of nicotine is enough to make a toddler severely ill. In some cases children have become poisoned by topical medicinal creams, which contain nicotine.

Regardless of the reason, nicotine testing is absolutely essential for not only creating a proper mix but for your own safety. Nicotine poisoning is very real. If you’ve received an incorrect batch or mixed liquid incorrectly it can result in illness or in extreme cases even death.

A member on our very own forum happens to sell nicotine testing kits. We are not affiliated with their site but thought it imperative that every DIY’er have a tester in their tool kit. Eliquidtest.com provides users with an inexpensive testing kit. Test your e liquid and find out just how much nicotine is in it. Keep in mind-bottled liquid is going to be +/- the milligram content stated. However if the bottle is off by 10x or 20x the amount indicated on the label then you’ve got a problem and so does your supplier.

Stay safe and test your e liquid – http://www.eliquidtest.com Kits start around $17 bucks.

Signs of Nicotine Overdose  

• Extreme anxiety
• Cold sweats
• Dizziness
• Headache
• Insomnia
• Tingling feelings
• Confusion
• Panic attacks
• Depression
• Heart palpitations
• High pulse rates
• Increased blood pressure
• Fatigue and weakness
• Reduced appetite
• Diarrhea
• Stomach pains
• Nausea
• Vomiting
• Chest pain
• Hearing or vision problems
• Seizures

Unlike a cigarette, it’s advised that you take long, slow drags on each and every owners manual, but most don’t know just how long or how slow they’re supposed to be doing it. Can I get an amen Noobies? OK Moving on…

Once newbies ‘get it’, their other e cigarette issues are secondary. There’s a lot of posts where forum members advise new users to use the proper technique, but it’s all scattered throughout the forum.

So, here you go..I’m doing a ‘guide’ based on using a MANUAL 510, which is one of most popular first models.  (This is applicable to most e cigarettes)

Steps

1. Press the button for around 1-2 seconds BEFORE you start to inhale
2. Without letting go of the button, draw on the ecig slowly. Your inhalation should be at least FIVE seconds long guys!

It’s just THAT easy!

If you’re frustrated because you don’t feel like you’re getting anything, that’s because you’re probably smoking it like an analog, short, quick puffs. It’s what we’re USED to doing, but this is NOT a cigarette.

While ordering a manual PV is strongly recommended for everyone, if you have an automatic version, (where you just ‘drag’ on it to get it started), then you use the same method, you just don’t have to hit any buttons beforehand, so take a ‘primer puff’ and you’re good to go!

Bottom line is, take a LONG drag…at least 5 seconds in length

Credit: domino38 (ECF Member)
Edit By: Christopher

As a professional chemist, I would recommend storing long term in glass. Nic in high concentration will slowly dissolve plastic, and PG will leach plasticizers from plastic. VG might too.

Sun’s fridge issues were with flavored juices stored six months, some of which were not even opened. I believe they were early Johnson Creek. The culprit was probably water in the JC recipe. I think decomp would have happened anyway, regardless. I do not think it was necessarily the fridge itself.

A sealed glass bottle of unflavored nic juice will not allow water in. The only reactant here is O2, which if there is little head room is negligible. O2 is very slightly soluble in PG or VG, and will be present in trace quantities in the solution no matter what you do, but it is not enough to make any appreciable change in 100 mg juice, even if it all reacts.

I use glass bottles from specialtybottles.com for storage of my unflavored 35-100 mg VG nic juice. The ones with eurodropper inserts, since I use them for syringe dispensing. Just stick an 18 gauge blunt needle through the center hole. With these inserts, accidental spill, which is a DISASTER with 100 mg juice, is eliminated. I use 50 mL bottles (although given how fast I go through them, I should have used 30 mL), fill them almost to the rim, put in the insert and screw on the cap.

I store them in the freezer. As long as they are brought to room temp before opening them, the liquid will not absorb much water from the air. I pull out one bottle at a time for juice making. I just pulled out a 100 mg VG bottle stored since January, and it has not even discolored compared to the original very slightly yellow, as in VERY slightly yellow. In my freezer, PG and VG do not freeze (I have some DV PG juice stored too), nor do they expand. VG becomes VERY thick, like rubber cement at the temp of my freezer. I have not tested for nic content, but the juices I make now are in my opinion no less potent than when I got the juice fresh.

Cool, dark, and dry is appropriate for a bottle opened and being actively used for DIY. Sealed is sealed, and extreme cold almost eliminates the kinetics of any O2 reactions and mold or bacteria growth, which is also almost eliminated by nic itself, PG or VG. I keep many 50 mL bottles in a sealed container in the freezer (actually a pet food container).

From what I know about these chemicals, I expect the juice to last certainly much much longer than 24 months, and probably many years.

This long term storage is for unflavored, and undiluted nic-juice only. I do not store flavored DIYs this way. I make them in relatively small quantities and vape them up before making more. Flavors are probably the most unstable part of e-juice, and the presence of water in them will hasten their decomposition into nasty tasting products. Fridge cold does not really change this a lot, it is dependent on the flavor itself. Fruits are especially prone, since they are esters that tend to hydrolyze to organic acids (sour, vinegar, vomit taste) and organic alcohols (wet-dog, funky taste).

Even unfrozen, liquid PG nic-juice in the freezer will still have slower reaction kinetics than room temperature liquid. Increased viscosity, such as VG nic-juice, will further lower kinetics of reactions of nic with O2: the molecules do not move around much to find each other. But all reactions slow down with cold regardless of viscosity changes. The fact that neither of these liquids freeze solid in the freezer is good. Solid is chrystalline, and is generally not the same composition as the liquid, in other words, freezing solid will promote separations…although after it melts to room temp, it can be mixed back to original uniform composition.

Is freezer storage overkill? Maybe. As I said, sealed is sealed, and the total reactions possible if its sealed are low. But I get a singular pleasure from taking one of those 50 mL bottles out, knowing it will be as fresh and potent as the day I bought it, even years down the line.

Based on my decades of chemical knowledge, I do honestly think this is the best option for long-term unflavored nic-juice storage.

1. Power Supplies!

You can’t vape without power, that’s an obvious thought. What power is best for your buck? I’ve been at this for a while with different power-sources and I’ve come to a few good conclusions.

#1. 14500 Batteries

If you’ve got a cheap mod box, these things come 2 for $5 from any online chinese store. Stock up and keep them charged. They last nearly all day for most people and keep their life for a long time. Make sure if you’re used to a 5v vape to pick up some low-resistance equipment that we’ll discuss later but for the price, these can’t be beat bang for your buck-wise. [Battery Junction is also another great place for batteries]

#2. A Passthrough

You can get a good cheap passthrough from most websites for around $15 but don’t expect them to last, even the good ones. You’re almost constantly handling the wiring which means it will eventually short out within a few months to a year, you never really know. While reliable when first used, take care to keep backups on you if they begin to fade out.

#3. Keep a standard socket.

If you have adapters, keep them but stick to the same socket. I tend to stick with 510 everything. This means all of my passthroughs and boxes all universally fit all of my atomizers and cartomizers. You don’t want to be caught spending more money on a device that uses something different than the rest.

2. The Vapor-Maker!

Atomizers cost around $8 each when not bought in bulk and you never know when one will short out on you. While they generally do last a long time. I’ve found a viable solution for the cheapskate vaper.

#1. CE2 Cartomizers being used as Atomizers

$10 for 5 of these puppies will keep you going. They’re built just like atomizers and carry the same punch. If you lose one, don’t fret, you’ve got four more left in the box to cycle through. Just pop them open and clip off the wicks and you’ve got the best cheap atomizers money can be skimped on.

Also, clean your equipment regularly and rotate around 5 cartomizers at a time to keep you going. Clean them all at once with your method of choice to keep them running like new and be careful not to pop them while dry-burning.

[Most packs of Cartomizers are about 8-10 bucks and come in a pack of 5. If you're using a device such as the eGo or Joye 510, look for cartomizers that have the 510 fitting. They pack almost the same punch as an atomizer at half the cost]

[3. Juice!]

If you’re looking for e liquid on a budget, the Forever Vapor store carries e liquid at a fairly low cost: Click Here

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Finding a job is tough but getting you through the hard times is all about preparation. Keep back-stock. Keep backups of your hardware going so you don’t have to rely on paycheck to paycheck purchases.

Nobody becomes a smoker as a result of will power. In fact it is the other way round. Can you imagine somebody as a child making up his or her mind that when he or she grows up he or she will become a chain smoker determined to smoke at least 30 cigarettes a day? Nobody in his or her normal senses would do that.

Then why do so many people become smokers? Let us sit and think about it for a minute. Of course there are a lot of other reasons like the ones I have listed below but I would like to pin point to one specific reason, which I have added, at the end of the list.

Many, in fact most people become smokers as a result of an experiment. What often starts as an experiment becomes an experience and before they know it, it becomes a pattern. So let us examine some of the factors that contribute towards making a person a smoker, chain or other wise.

Peer pressure. One bad apple is enough to make a whole barrel of apples bad. And during the age of thoughtless youth (most people develop the habit before the age of 25) every one is ready to take up a dare. So when peers compel others to take a puff, one just has to take a puff or else face the danger of being branded as “chicken” or “goody-two-shoes”.

Availability. Cigarettes are available every where and almost any body can get them and that is one major factor that contributes to the development of the habit. Another reason is that cigarettes are so damn cheap!

Aping. Movie stars and other celebrities who smoke look so cool, and this is more than enough reason for youngsters to start smoking just to copy their matinee idol.

The Feel Good Syndrome. Cigarettes are often identified with the “cool factor” and so it is a great way to impress others if you can delicately balance the cigarette between two of your fingers and blow up a puff of smoke while you are in your friends’ circle.

Stress busters. Cigarettes are often wrongly identified as stress busters and one of the best ways of driving away sleep. So when we see others resorting to the habit, we are tempted and even coaxed into taking a puff. If one parent smokes there is a 25% chance that the child too will grow up into a smoker. If both parents smoke, there is a 75% chance that the child will become a smoker.

Attitude. This is a good one, but strangely enough this cause is seldom identified as one of the reasons for picking up the habit. One thing about most of us is that there is a rebellious strain in all of us. There is something in us that generates an urge to protest against existing rules and norms and during our teenage, what better way to express our defiance than by sporting a lighted cigarette between our fingers or lips.

Wet Paint.

It is not just some thing about smoking. It is a general tendency of every human being. The moment some body tells us not to do something a strong feeling develops in us to do the very thing that we were asked not to do. If you want to understand what I mean, just consider how people really want to touch and get the wet paint on their hands in spite of a big sign that says “wet paint”.

Cigarette smoking may be dangerous to health but just how dangerous is something that we have to convince ourselves about. But the sorry fact is that unlike wet paint, we just can’t wash of the effects of smoking with water or turpentine. Nor do the effects fade over time, they just worsen. Smoking is not something that we can experiment with. You just can’t take a risk like smoke for a couple of years and say, “look guys, I survived.” It is a matter of life and death.

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