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[Jolly]

(Please only post questions OR additional noobie info in here to keep this thread clean. ie: no thank you, good post, etc, posts)

This is to help you play catch up on what the veterans know.

Basic ecig Parts

A.) Cartridge - holds the ejuice and is also a mouth piece. this part can be replaced with a drip tip and is what most do
B.) Atomizer - has an element that heats up the ejuice and as you pull air threw it vapor is produced.
* sub B section - you can also use cartomizers, they are atomizers with filler to hold juice and are a tad shorter in size.
C.) battery - these will be 3.7v Lithium Ion batteries, they supply the power to the atomizer. they come in auto (activated by suction) or manual (activated by button)

Common Ecigs


What's the best ecig
This is more dependent on how you vape and your needs for vapor, throat/lung hit, battery life needs and other factors.
Most people will advise the ego/tornado/riva as they all have a nice battery life and are built good (ego being the favorite of the three)
this is the ego mega and regular batteries with manual buttons


Ecig Model Numbers
These are based on the atomizer they use
when one says 510 kit, they generally are referring to the cigarette shaped ecig. like the first picture of this post.

Why we tell you not to get cigarette shaped ecigs
A cigarette shaped battery runs $12 for a normal manual 510

9hrs at $20 (ego battery) 540mins
45mins (510 kit battery) 540 ÷ 45 = 12
12 (batteries) x $12 = $144

so for mAh (Milliamp hours), it is a lot less expensive to buy a larger battery.
this will also keep you from having to buy more batteries. explained after next set of math.

510 kit batteries needed for 9hrs
9hrs (540mins) ÷ (45min run time + 2hr charge time = 165mins) = 3.272727273 batteries needed to run 9hrs on 510 kit
3 x $12 = $36 - 1 ego battery = $20 = $16 saved. that is initial cost only!!

45min x 2 is what you have ready to go after your first needs charged (90mins).
your first battery is going to take 2hrs to charge so by the time you run out the other two the first is done charging.
so just to keep going you would need at bare minimum you want two 510 chargers, this means more $$.
why you ask? at night when you don't have a single battery to use, you will only be able to charge 1 while you sleep. it would be more ideal to have 3 or one of the larger chargers that do more than one and have no less than 10 batteries ready to go.
on top of this when you go out you will have a pocket full of batteries, making this not a very portable device to bring with you.

other than that you have to recharge more often and the more you charge the more you replace. batteries have an # of recharges before they start failing to keep their charge. now you may say by logic that you are only charging once on those small batteries in that 9hr time, so there isn't an issue on life, BUT, the smaller the battery the less times you can charge it before the failing starts. also consider that you have 3 batteries that will fail

First Order
When you get an ecig make sure that you have spares of everything.
the atomizers, cartomizers, batteries, and juice are all going to need purchased at some point again.
Your first cart should consist of NO LESS than, 5 atomizers, 2 packs of cartomizers (5 in a pack), your kit, 2 extra batteries (i would advise mega batteries), 1 extra charger, and a nice amount of juice.
the last thing you want is to have to wait on something you didn't buy enough of to come in. if one thing is missing you will go right back to smoking, nobody wants that.

Mods and Why
Mods are usually over looked or not even known to noobies of the ecig world.
these devices can be anywhere from 3.7v to 8.4v.
the point is that some people need one of two things, longer battery life with less cost and/or an aggressive throat hit.
as a newbie i wouldn't advise a mod above 3.7v that doesn't have the option to go as low as 4.2v
if it is not a variable voltage you are stuck on that till you get something lower if you don't like it.
i say 4.2v because any 3.7v battery charges UP TO 4.2v. most people love vaping that initial fresh charged battery. voltage drops after usage to as low as 2.9v

Mods will use batteries like these

these are all 3.7v batteries with a much longer charge life vs a kit ecig.
you can find almost all of these batteries from US suppliers for $5 each.
a 3.7v mod using the largest battery (18650) can last you 4+ days @ $8 for the battery.

some mods can last up to 4+ days before needing to be recharged.

I'm not going to go into mods or pictures of mods. you can do that on your own, also watch youtube videos about the mods before thinking its large.
the standard ones people use are
silver bullet
mako
tekk mod (prone to cracking at the top unless you find someone that knows how to make them correctly)
some sort of wetbox (check reviews of these missys wetbox fails quite often due to her under rated buttons and cost $15 to fix)
(there are a crazy amount of mods out there, this is just a small list of the most talked about)

Abbreviations

General

Noob - Beginner
OP - Original Post(er)
Analog - Regular Cigarette
Mod - Homemade device or a Moderator.
Pull - The act of sucking on the mouthpiece to pull the vapor into your mouth
TH - Throat Hit (The tingling sensation in the back of your throat)
Vapor - the "smoke" emitted from an e-cigarette
Vape, Vaping - The use of an e-cigarette (similar to the term "smoking" when referring to an analog)
Topping off - Adding drops of e-liquid to your current cartridge.
Dripping - Vaping by adding a few drops of e-liquid directly on the atomizer instead of using a cartridge.
Dipping - Sticking the bridge of the atomizer in e-liquid.

E-Cigarette

E-cig or E-cigarette - Electronic Cigarette
PV - Personal Vaporizer
Atty - Atomizer
Cart - Cartridge
Bat - Battery
Filler - The fiber found inside your cartridge that holds your e-liquid
PCC - Personal Charging Case
SD - ScrewDriver
JS - Janty Stick
PT - Passthrough or passthrough battery
2-piece/Disposable - 2 part e-cigarette. The Battery and a "cartomizer".
Cartomizer - An atomizer built into the cartridge, marketed as disposable (you throw it away when the e-liquid is used up).
3-piece - 3 part e-cigarette. Battery, Atomizer, and Cartridge.
Cutoff - Refers to how long the battery will activate the atomizer before shutting down (safety measure to protect the atomizer).

E-Liquid

E-juice, e-liquid, juice - the liquid nicotine that you fill your cartridges with.
DIY - Do it yourself (homemade e-liquid mixture)
PG - Propylene Glycol
VG - Vegetable Glycerin(Glycerine = glycerin = vegetable glycerin(e) = glycerol)
PEG - Polylethylene Glycol

Suppliers

VT - Vaportalk
VG - Vaporgalaxy
VB - Vaporbomb
ENS - electronicstix
JC - Johnson Creek
PS - PureSmoker
TW - Totally Wicked
EST - E-smokeytreats
JS - JantyStick
SD - ScrewDriver
GG - The GG!

Miscellaneous

FDA - Food and Drug Administration
ECA - Electronic Cigarette Association
NRT - Nicotine Replacement Therapy (patch, gum, e-cig)
PH - Public Health
BP - Big Pharmaceutical Companies
BT - Big Tobacco Companies
ALF - American Legacy Foundation
'Anti's - Anti-smoking people who do not acknowledge that vaping is a viable alternative to smoking analogs.
RYO - Roll your own (tobacco)

Universal Forum Lingo

AFAIK - As Far As I Know
BTW - By The Way
DOA - Dead On Arrival (didn't work from the moment I got it)
FWIW- For What It's Worth
FYI - For Your Information
IDK - I Don't Know
IIRC - If I Recall/Remember Correctly
IMO or IMHO - In My Opinion or In My Humble Opinion (some mean 'H' to be Honest)
IOW - In Other Words
JK or JJ - Just Kidding or Just Joking
JS - Just Saying
OMG or OMFG - Oh My God and it's adult extension
PITA - Pain In The ***
PWN - Own or "dominate"
ROTFLOL - Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud
ROTFLMFAO - ^ Adult Extension of above
SOL - (can't be helped or fixed)
(SP?) - Used when unsure of the spelling of the previous word
TIA - Thanks In Advance
TMI - Too Much Information (too personal)
TOS - Terms Of Service ("the rules")
TROLL - A person that posts in a forum/thread with the sole intention of provoking an argument (can sometimes also imply a "spy")
TY - Thank You
WOOT - Exclamation, as in Hooray! (Sometimes: Want One Of Those)
WTF - Same As below
WTH - What/Where/Who The Hell
YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (your experience may differ from mine)

Edited by Christopher, 08 August 2011 - 04:08 AM.

[Christopher]

Congrats you just got yourself a sticky! Awesome topic. Some really great information here.

[ThaHodgehound]

VERY NICE JOLLY!!! U just got a +1 too!!!!

[KaYoTiiC]

AWESOME.... I'm still learning so this really helps.


Thanks

Edited by KaYoTiiC, 17 November 2010 - 07:34 AM.

[Roober]

Great post Jolly!!! And to add in for the noobies, grab an ego guys! its worth it for starters! Next buy one of Jolly's tekk mods!!! Gogo!

[Alisa]

Roober, on 18 November 2010 - 11:10 PM, said:

Great post Jolly!!! And to add in for the noobies, grab an ego guys! its worth it for starters! Next buy one of Jolly's tekk mods!!! Gogo!

Its agreat article on e cigarette.thanks for this information about e cigs

[BEERCITYVAPRZ]

Just learned a few new things myself, awesome! ohhhh yeah, you can also use CARTO = cartomizer, sometimes vapers think CARTO means just a regular plastic cartridge or cart.

[cheshyl]

Thanks Jolly, that really helped me out with some of the things I wasn't sure of.  Learning, but not quite there.

[Jolly]

How to go about selecting a mod.


all mods that use dual batteries will give you the same vapor production.
all mods that use single battery, either boosted or not give the same vapor.
your vapor is more based off of the atty/carto ohm matched with voltage and amps used.

a boosted mod (uses single battery with higher voltage output) will produce less over all vapor above the batteries charge. this is due to the booster board drops amps to achieve higher voltage. the loss will not be huge but if you are used to something like a dual battery 5v and try a boosted you will notice boosted at 5v to be less on the th, warmth, and vapor.

the main things that you should look into, are as follows.
1.) how long do i want to go between charges
2.) do i what tube or more boxed size
3.) do i want something pretty to look at or a work horse that can get banged up (i like the work horse because sometimes i tend to drop stuff a lot)
4.) vv or single voltage
5.) price, quality, and need vs want. (what we want isn't always what we need, example: i'd like vv, but i don't need it as all my cartos are 3.2ohm and i like them on 5v just fine.)

Edited by Jolly, 25 December 2010 - 07:34 PM.

[Erik]

This was a great resource for a newbie like me. Thank you!

[PsychoMaster]

Man after reading this I feel enlightened. I always thought mods seemed expensive, but when you only pay around %8 for such a big battery that lasts so long, it seems you would save a lot more in the long run than using even an Ego/Tornado (what I have). This has given me something to seriously think about.

[Dose]

By far the most informative newbie post I've ever read. Kudos to you Jolly!

[Nanna]

Hey thanks for this. My eGo arrived in the mail last  ight, I charged it while I slept, used Phee's wonderful video (thank God) and then came straight here. This is really good information and MUCH appreciated.

Everybody was a noob once!  

[Sharon]

Alisa, on 26 November 2010 - 03:28 AM, said:

Its agreat article on e cigarette.thanks for this information about e cigs

So much to learn.  I hope everyone will be forgiving if I forget what some of the letters mean.

From the Noob

[Mephare]

Awesome post. Helps out newbies like me a ton. Thanks!

[Tomcat]

Thanks for all the awesome info.. Kudos

[Razgriz916]

I wish I saw this topic before my sis got me some crappy junk model that cost like 100 bucks

[Cheriepye]

Hey I really enjoyed this! I will be coming back frequently... lol

Edited by BirdDog, 17 April 2011 - 12:03 PM.

[NocturneKing]

Thanks for the information Jolly...I'm expecting a Joye 510 Kit this upcoming week and could use all the info i can possibly get  

[Roscoe]

Great info man thanks.