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[brijmin]

Riva vs eGo


Well my backup unit arrived yesterday. I got a Riva 510. The look and feel is just about the same. I have noticed some slight differences.


1. The button. It is rubber and has a nice feel. The way it fires is different. There is a slight delay after you stop pushing the button where the atty is still active and the button still glows. Its only about a second.

2. The button ring. The eGo has a slight depression ring around the battery. The Riva has a ring but is not inset.

3. The Cone. The code does not seem to fit as tightly around the top of the atty. This leads to better air flow.

4. The air slots. There are air slots at the top of the battery of both the Riva and eGo. the slots are a little wider on the Riva. This changes the draw and air flow making the draw easier on the Riva, but only slightly.

5. Charging. While charging the Riva's button glows BLUE the entire time. There is a RED indicator light on the plug and a RED indicator on the part that screws on the battery. Couple that with the BLUE on the button, looks cool in a dark room. I charge my equipment in the bathroom. Its dark in in there and makes a nice night light.

6. Battery. Riva 510 Power: 4.1v to 4.2 at 750mAh - eGo Power: 3.7v to 3.8v at 650mAh. I also tested my eGo Passthrough and that one was at 3.7v to 3.8v at 650mAh.



Over all I am very pleased with the Riva and will be buring this one in for the next few days. The biggest difference is in the Voltage. There is more popping and snapping because of the higher Volts. So far I am really digging the Riva. For now it is my primary device. If you have a chance to pick one up for a good price GO 4 IT!!!! To be honest I only ordered the Riva for the spare parts like the charger and cones, etc. For now the Riva is my go to device.




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TECH TIP:

mAh stands for Milliamp Hour, a technical term for how much power a particular battery will hold.

Volts or V are an electrical measure of energy potential. You can think of it as the pressure being exerted by all the electrons Battery's negative terminal as they try to move to the positive terminal.
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[Kingbtheone]

I also had both, just had some battery issues with both. i also preffered the riva battery due to cost and feel. i liked putting my 901 atty on the small riva battery.

[juliery]

I like your #5....I charge my batteries, as well as cell phone and netbook on a power strip that is sort of next to my side of the bed....like right under the frame so I can still reach everything. At night when having to get up to go to the bathroom or whatnot the glowing lights do make a nice little nightlight. Not light enough to be annoying but light enough to provide useful illumination. Nice right on the floor so if the kids left something laying around i don't trip and break my neck!!!

[thorne]

Good review. I have a 510 and was looking to upgrade my battery. Someone on the forum recommended the Riva for a moderately priced upgrade.... (I just ordered it from Liberty-Flights.com yesterday.) I was a bit skeptical due to the cost difference from the eGo which was my first choice, but the deal was too good to pass up. I am feeling much better about my decision now.

I will review the 510 vs. the Riva when I get my new hardware in and get a chance to play with it for a bit. Thanks brijmin.^^

[DerStadtschutz]

Riva vs eGo


Well my backup unit arrived yesterday. I got a Riva 510. The look and feel is just about the same. I have noticed some slight differences.


1. The button. It is rubber and has a nice feel. The way it fires is different. There is a slight delay after you stop pushing the button where the atty is still active and the button still glows. Its only about a second.

2. The button ring. The eGo has a slight depression ring around the battery. The Riva has a ring but is not inset.

3. The Cone. The code does not seem to fit as tightly around the top of the atty. This leads to better air flow.

4. The air slots. There are air slots at the top of the battery of both the Riva and eGo. the slots are a little wider on the Riva. This changes the draw and air flow making the draw easier on the Riva, but only slightly.

5. Charging. While charging the Riva's button glows BLUE the entire time. There is a RED indicator light on the plug and a RED indicator on the part that screws on the battery. Couple that with the BLUE on the button, looks cool in a dark room. I charge my equipment in the bathroom. Its dark in in there and makes a nice night light.

6. Battery. Riva 510 Power: 4.1v to 4.2 at 750mAh - eGo Power: 3.7v to 3.8v at 650mAh. I also tested my eGo Passthrough and that one was at 3.7v to 3.8v at 650mAh.



Over all I am very pleased with the Riva and will be buring this one in for the next few days. The biggest difference is in the Voltage. There is more popping and snapping because of the higher Volts. So far I am really digging the Riva. For now it is my primary device. If you have a chance to pick one up for a good price GO 4 IT!!!! To be honest I only ordered the Riva for the spare parts like the charger and cones, etc. For now the Riva is my go to device.




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TECH TIP:

mAh stands for Milliamp Hour, a technical term for how much power a particular battery will hold.

Volts or V are an electrical measure of energy potential. You can think of it as the pressure being exerted by all the electrons Battery's negative terminal as they try to move to the positive terminal.
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I wasn't aware that the Riva was higher voltage than the Ego. I also never noticed a difference in the air holes or the cone's tightness between the two. However, I wasn't really looking all that closely either. Another thing, my Riva's button doesn't glow at all when I'm charging it, at least not that I noticed. I wonder why yours does...

Either way, thank you for comparing the Riva to the ego without automatically condemning it because it costs less, and therefore MUST be lower quality. You don't always get what you pay for. I prefer the Riva, but a lot of people won't even touch it because it costs less, kinda like Vapor Renu juice. Oh well, their loss. The cheapest Ego kit I know of is about $60, but you can get a Riva kit from liberty flights for $37.50, or $30 even with a 20% discount coupon code. Even if it somehow is inferior quality, you can get two kits for the price of one Ego kit. And it's DEFINITELY better than a 510, or a blu, PLUS cheaper than either. So even if it isn't QUITE as good as the Ego(which I think is a crock), it's pretty damn close. GO RIVA!!

Edited by DerStadtschutz, 28 January 2011 - 05:19 PM.

[brijmin]

I wasn't aware that the Riva was higher voltage than the Ego. I also never noticed a difference in the air holes or the cone's tightness between the two. However, I wasn't really looking all that closely either. Another thing, my Riva's button doesn't glow at all when I'm charging it, at least not that I noticed. I wonder why yours does...

Either way, thank you for comparing the Riva to the ego without automatically condemning it because it costs less, and therefore MUST be lower quality. You don't always get what you pay for. I prefer the Riva, but a lot of people won't even touch it because it costs less, kinda like Vapor Renu juice. Oh well, their loss. The cheapest Ego kit I know of is about $60, but you can get a Riva kit from liberty flights for $37.50, or $30 even with a 20% discount coupon code. Even if it somehow is inferior quality, you can get two kits for the price of one Ego kit. And it's DEFINITELY better than a 510, or a blu, PLUS cheaper than either. So even if it isn't QUITE as good as the Ego(which I think is a crock), it's pretty damn close. GO RIVA!!

The air holes are not a different width, more like a different cut. The air hole sort of slant down and are not a square cut like the eGo. Sort of hard to explain in words.

Yeah for sure the button glows the entire time they charge.

My volt meter is a cheap analog dial. The exact reading was hard to tell for sure, but it was higher than the eGo.

I got mine from Liberty Flights as well, maybe different vendors sell different quality versions. Not sure.

After vaping both for a while now, I can tell you the better of the two is the eGo. It makes a decent backup unit. I would recommend this as a cheaper alternative to anyone on a budget.

My primary device is still the eGo.

[DerStadtschutz]

Can I ask you what exactly is "better" about the ego? I can't really tell a difference beyond the fact that I personally prefer the rubber button of the riva(the plastic ego button likes to stick sometimes). That, and the fact that the riva battery is shorter, but that's because the Ego I have is a USB passthru. Also, I do like the fact that the ego(at least the black one) has a sort of rubberized texture on the battery, which provides a better grip than the metallic finish of the Riva.

I don't see what difference it would make, but I personally got mine from Vapor-ize.com.

Edited by DerStadtschutz, 28 January 2011 - 09:05 PM.

[Uma]

Nice review!! The review is the best clone of the eGo out there to date. It's a nice unit.

The Joye eGo is the original PV that all the others copied. The guy who designed the eGo, (Mik) works for Janty. Janty put a 6 month warranty on the product... an unheard length at that time. They really stand behind their product and designer, which is what we end up paying for. It's like buying the original Gucci compared to a knockoff. Most of the clones have either a 30 day to a 90 day warranty. Sometimes they last 3 months, sometimes not. My first eGo lasted 8 months. Well worth the money spent, just for peace of mind.
There are differences, in warranties from vendor to vendor with either one. You can't go wrong with either one, it's all preference.

[brijmin]

I should have taken some pics of the differences. A picture speaks a thousand words. I personally have not had any button issues with either. The button on the eGo shuts off immediately after release while the Riva remains on for a second after release.

I have pictured the eGo Pass-through, a normal eGo and a Riva.

http://picasaweb.goo...rijmin/EGoVRiva

I added some captions to help explain the differences.

The eGo just feels better constructed. Everything from the push of the button to the threading of the cone. The better "feel" may come from the coating as well. There is a different finish on each... Hard to explain without touching it yourself.

[Uma]

oops, that should have read "the Riva is the best clone out there to date"... not "the review is the best clone out... " lol.